Figgy1
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FDOT has control of the monorails not RC
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Disstevefan1
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There you go, nothing will change then. The monorails are safe.
Goofyernmost
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They won't be very happy if the "district" shuts it down just for kicks either. I don't doubt that they liked the idea of having the Monorail handy, but they didn't spend that much money just because of it. They manage when there is a breakdown, they can still get where they want to go and have to stay within the confines of the Monorail schedule the other times. Besides, let's get realistic, it doesn't take that many rides before the charm starts to wear thin.
Goofyernmost
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I don't disagree, but the extent is limited. People that go to those resorts don't just go to MK. There are three other parks and the entire property is an experience in itself. I know that there would be some pushback, but I don't really think that the Monorail is the only reason they are staying in those three resorts.
James Alucobond
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They also have relatively easy access to EPCOT via the monorail, especially the Polynesian, which in turn grants "continuing service" to Hollywood Studios for afternoon parkhoppers, all without the terribleness that is a bus. It's definitely the core reason I stay there. If the monorail were gone, I'd instantly switch my habits to favor the Crescent Lake resorts.
Goofyernmost
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Yes, I know and I do agree that their would be some degree of uproar about it. I don't think, however, that people would stop going to WDW just because there no longer was a Monorail. That is a pretty specific item and it is really not much more than a weird designed bus. Besides now that Disney knows they can build a Gondola system to take people to the same place and perhaps even add a route to Animal Kingdom.
Some chose the resorts for the monorail but most choose for MK proximity, and the monorail is only a part of that. At Grand Floridian and Contemporary using the monorail to get to/from EPCOT feels, imo, burdensome with need to change lines.
The monorail needs significant investment to last into the 2060s when the monorail DVC resort contracts expire, and how Disney has punted Monorail decisions I don't feel great about Disney ever pulling the trigger.
Goofyernmost
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Why not? They can follow the same path as the Monorail.
Me too.
GCTales
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I thought, based on the last reports we had seen in media, that they were still reviewing / understanding Disney procedures and had yet to generate their minimum safety standard. Have to have a standard before they can inspect for compliance to it.
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I just think the distance with the constant slowdowns to let those who need extra time would make it less likely to actually happen. I love the skyline btw, and would love to see it expanded on property.
Goofyernmost
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It would still work because the slow downs happen in a different lane, they'd just have to make the lane a little longer. It was just a thought anyway, it is possible, but not very likely. As far as delays though, the buses do it all the time.
UNCgolf
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The Skyliner is much slower than the monorail in general, even if it didn't have any of the slowdowns/stoppages. A trip from the TTC to EPCOT on the Skyliner, if built along the existing monorail line, would take roughly 20 minutes even if it ran at max speed the entire time (it almost certainly wouldn't). The monorail does that trip in about 6 minutes.
The speed is one of the reasons the Skyliner isn't a viable option for resort wide transportation -- at least not without continuing to run buses as they do now, or adding some other new options.
The Skyliner's "slow" problem is that they didn't build a physical needs bypass at Riviera. Every EV and person/group going on or off at Riviera that needs more time slows the whole line down, and sometimes stops it completely.
If you have special needs pull-offs at every station, it can be pretty speedy. But don't count on speeds over 15 mph (WDW's Skyliner's top speed is 11.2 mph (5 meters/sec).
If you have special needs pull-offs at every station, it can be pretty speedy. But don't count on speeds over 15 mph (WDW's Skyliner's top speed is 11.2 mph (5 meters/sec).
Goofyernmost
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Speed isn't anywhere near as slow as the bus and it isn't influenced by traffic, etc. I think as a constant moving entity it is probably fast. Just think about the time used just loading the buses before it moves an inch. The monorail is faster, but we were just talking about, what if it isn't there anymore.
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scottieRoss
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The most expensive part of the skyliner is the number of stations on the line.
Gondolas travel in straight lines. You would need so many turning stations to be able to circle Seven Seas Lagoon. Or to go from TTC to Epcot.
Gondolas travel in straight lines. You would need so many turning stations to be able to circle Seven Seas Lagoon. Or to go from TTC to Epcot.
The issue is the mix. The problem would all but dissappear if Riviera had the bypass.
Specific gondola cabins are configured to bypass. I'm thinking every 12th, not sure of the exact number. Riviera would work better if the line could be slowed or stopped and then 3 or 4 scooters loaded at once. That can't be done, the scooters designated to bypass have to be spaced out.
Goofyernmost
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As I recall, the original gondola ride in WDW's MK had a turn and didn't have any fancy turning stations to do it. Now it might be that they couldn't have more then one before it started to have a problem. But it seems like it is possible without a whole lot of effort. Now on the Epcot line going around that lagoon would be problematic, I would think, but they could find a straight line from MK to Epcot without to much effort. Please understand that I am NOT in favor of losing the Monorail. Aesthetically, it is an integral part of WDW.
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scottieRoss
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here is a picture of the turning station in Magic Kingdom from yesterland.
Smiley/OCD
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Everyone’s talking about adding the skyliner as the possible alternative to the monorail, yet everyone’s forgetting the fact that it shuts down during high winds and thunderstorms…it’s just NOT a viable option.