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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

Smiley/OCD

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1. "Nicer than the old". I guess a matter of opinion but, my admittedly quick scan of FD logos on Google shows the same symbiology of hat, axe, ladder, etc. so your statement seems to be a sweeping condemnation of most FD logos
2. I get the use of "District". But, come on, the central image is the orange tree of the CFTOD logo. If the district goes back to RCID, you can be certain there will be a re-do of the logo. Why maintain a CFTOD logo?
It’s like the cops on TV shows work for the “Metro PD”…I know they don’t anticipate it, but it just looks VERY temporary and generic…
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
The simple answer is yes. Our mortgage has already gone up because of higher taxes and insurance rates. Desantis's revenge on blue counties. I'm not sure it's related directly to reedy creek but it sure was timely.
Also, I'm from Miami, and we still call the stadium Joe Robbie, so I'll probably call this Reedy Creek forever, too. 😆
Should have gotten a fixed rate mortgage , just sayin.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
A better question might be, if the new regulation becomes a problem and is used in a bad faith way, what would it take to change the Disney Monorail from a 'fixed guideway transportation system' into an amusement park ride?

Meaning, what could be done to the Disney Monorail to make it more like Peter Pan or Space Mountain and less like the MCO terminal train?
There is a possible answer for this in Japan. At Tokyo Disney, the monorail carries a fee and the railroad goes roundtrip with no opportunity to get off elsewhere. This is because, I understand, of a Japanese law requiring that trains with more than one stop (that therefore operate as transportation) must have a separate fee.

So make the monorail a roundtrip where you get off where you got on, and it's not transportation anymore - just a ride.
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
There is a possible answer for this in Japan. At Tokyo Disney, the monorail carries a fee and the railroad goes roundtrip with no opportunity to get off elsewhere. This is because, I understand, of a Japanese law requiring that trains with more than one stop (that therefore operate as transportation) must have a separate fee.

So make the monorail a roundtrip where you get off where you got on, and it's not transportation anymore - just a ride.
That would be completely impossible to do at WDW. The Epcot line has two stops. And whether Express or Resort monorail there a multiple stops -- two on the Express and five on the resort monorail. Can you imagine if what is the resort monorail now was roundtrip only from MK? Well, fine, you've just made a ride of the monorail but have totally destroyed the Poly, GF, and Contemporary Resorts as deluxe resorts.
 

Goofyernmost

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I highly doubt the monorail will be forgotten. It's been a staple of WDW since 1971. I get being upset about the new law that carved out inspections of the monorail. But you're extrapolating a lot of what the district could do to it. The inspections are specific to FDOT only. Let's not get carried away here.
I'm not getting carried away at all. All the clues to the future are staring us in the face and so many refuse to understand the consequences of ignoring them. The Monorail is just an example of things that could happen. Being a fixture since 1971 has absolutely no guarantee's that it has to continue. Think of all the other things that existed for many years that are now gone.
 

mikejs78

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I'm not getting carried away at all. All the clues to the future are staring us in the face and so many refuse to understand the consequences of ignoring them. The Monorail is just an example of things that could happen. Being a fixture since 1971 has absolutely no guarantee's that it has to continue. Think of all the other things that existed for many years that are now gone.
There's a lot of DVC owners who purchased to be in the monorail resorts. There would be a fairly significant uproar if the monorail was canned.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
There's a lot of DVC owners who purchased to be in the monorail resorts. There would be a fairly significant uproar if the monorail was canned.
It would need to be replaced by fast transportation to MK and Epcot. Not to mention, the MK needs more than the ferries to transport guests to the parking lot. I would expect a light rail to be the only possible replacement.
 

mmascari

Well-Known Member
I would expect a light rail to be the only possible replacement.
That would be subject to the same oversight. Oversight being abused to create leverage on Disney as the premise for this change.

My guess is they would rearrange the fencing around the stations and ticket validation. Move the entire monorail inside the park boundary and then claim it's an amusement park ride fully contained inside the park and subject to different oversight. Only after they fight whatever the oversight abuse is happening in court first.
 

Tom P.

Well-Known Member
WDW has 25 resorts and MK is the only one that is serviced by the Monorail (I'm not talking parks here but if I were talking about parks it is only two of them. Of the twenty five resorts only ONE has the monorail, but just how much of a drop in attendance would that cost the MK park? I'd guess none and if it is none the hotels will still be attractions in themselves and will continue to be popular because the the overlook MK and not how they get to MK. Right now it is much, much faster to walk to MK from the Contemporary then to ride the Monorail, and both have multiple ways to get there (i.e. walk, boat or bus and future modes to be introduced).
WDW has three resorts that are served by the monorail -- Contemporary, Polynesian, and Grand Floridian. And, yes, I believe it would definitely impact bookings at those resorts if the monorail no longer serviced them. Not to mention all of the people who bought DVC at those properties on the basis of the monorail.
 

jinx8402

Well-Known Member
It would need to be replaced by fast transportation to MK and Epcot. Not to mention, the MK needs more than the ferries to transport guests to the parking lot. I would expect a light rail to be the only possible replacement.
Skyliner would work for parking lot transport. Obviously that would not be the best for MK to Epcot though.
 

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