News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[UNCgolf]

In the stores I patronize, they hover near the customer service desk.

Florida allows retailers like grocery stores - Costco too - to obtain a license to sell only beer and wine. A separate package store and license is required to sell liquor. There was a bill in the Legislature a year or so ago that would allow grocery stores to sell liquor, provided it was a separate area that was walled with a door to enter. Never passed.

California allows grocery stores and member clubs like Costco to possess liquor licenses to sell liquor within the store, as opposed to having a separate store. Didn't have to go to a separate package store to pick up your scotch or vodka at Safeway...it was in the liquor department. Florida is a tad behind the times. Blue laws existed in the state through the 1980s. And there are still dry counties.

I believe this is actually the standard across most of the country. Most states don't allow grocery stores to sell liquor, although the specifics vary; e.g. South Carolina allows Costco to sell liquor with a separate attached store whereas North Carolina only allows liquor sales at specifically licensed ABC store locations and Costco doesn't sell it at all. In Georgia, I think there are two Costco locations that sell liquor but no others because they're limited to two licenses.

 

[LAKid53]

I believe this is actually the standard across most of the country. Most states don't allow grocery stores to sell liquor, although the specifics vary; e.g. South Carolina allows Costco to sell liquor with a separate attached store whereas North Carolina only allows liquor sales at specifically licensed ABC store locations.

Florida allows both Costco and Publix to sell liquor in a separate attached store. The new Publix at the intersection of Herzog and Avalon near Flamingo Crossings will have a Publix Liquors. But based upon the building which is nearly complete, it won't be "next door" as that space will be the drive through for the pharmacy. There's another small building in the parking lot that most likely will house the liquor store.

 

[lazyboy97o]

What do you mean by "paying the county" directly? The board of CFTOD has no authority over services of the 2 counties.

Disney can directly contract with the counties to provide a police presence when the District cuts most of their current level of service.

 

[afterabme]

Budget wise, is the 8 million for the police reflective of how much it would potentially cost for Disney to contract with the counties for police directly? Or would it be more?

 

[MrPromey]

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Citizens? The only people that lived on property were disney executives. Again, the lessees of property in Disney Springs are not really citizens.

I know some people who might like a word with you.

 

[Lilofan]

This is true of Osceola County SO also.

It all depends how a county has it set up with FHP. Probably half the counties in FL have the FHP handle all the reporting because those reports have to be sent to FHP in the end.

That does not make sense. A friend of mine waited by their car for several hours outside WDW for FHP to come to accident scene. Orange County sheriffs just kept driving by and said it’s Highway Patrol responsibility.

 

[LAKid53]

Citizens? The only people that lived on property were disney executives. Again, the lessees of property in Disney Springs are not really citizens.

You're asserting that anyone who rents isn't a citizen? Even though the cost of property taxes to the owner is typically included in the rental fee.

 

[Lilofan]

“We heard from constituents loud and clear at public meetings and while out and about in the community"

He hasn't been in contact with Disney. I really wouldn't call the lessees like Hilton a constituent.

"Further, taxpayer dollars would no longer be used to fund the private use of the public police force for commercial benefit. Over the past several years, instead of using private security or hiring additional police officers, private entities have placed the financial burden on citizens by billing the district to police their property."

Citizens? The only people that lived on property were disney executives. Again, the lessees of property in Disney Springs are not really citizens.

Golden Oak near Port Orleans is on property. The homeowners whose homes range from $5M - $30M live in the gated community. Most if not all are not Disney execs some using Golden Oak as their second or third residence.

 

[LAKid53]

Golden Oak near Port Orleans is on property. The homeowners whose homes range from $5M - $30M live in the gated community. Most if not all are not Disney execs some using Golden Oak as their second or third residence.

Snowbirds

 

[Lilofan]

Snowbirds

Golden snowbirds living when they feel like it in Golden Oak. Must be nice to view the parks fireworks nightly from your backyard patio and swimming pool.

 

[LAKid53]

Golden snowbirds living when they feel like it in Golden Oak. Must be nice to view the parks fireworks nightly from your backyard patio and swimming pool.

You act like only residents of Golden Oak can see fireworks. I can see them from my front porch, the end of my street, the mailboxes and the pool area.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Golden Oak near Port Orleans is on property. The homeowners whose homes range from $5M - $30M live in the gated community. Most if not all are not Disney execs some using Golden Oak as their second or third residence.

Golden Oak is not within the District.

 

[Lilofan]

You act like only residents of Golden Oak can see fireworks. I can see them from my front porch, the end of my street, the mailboxes and the pool area.

Nice assumption but wrong.

 

[DCBaker]

Bob Hazen from WESH 2 with a couple updates this morning.

 

[mightynine]

A CFTOD clod possibly being incorrect? Well, I never

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Bob Hazen from WESH 2 with a couple updates this morning.

So all that crowing about "saving" money in that area was BS? I'm shocked!

 

[MagicHappens1971]

LMAO is the only phrase i can think of to describe this ongoing debacle and embarrassment of the state of Florida

 

[lazyboy97o]

I guess I got ahead of myself calling them shrewd. It explains why the $8 million wasn’t readily apparent on the budget summary.

So then what’s the game here? Are they trying to sow discord between Disney and their tenants?

 

[GrumpyFan]

Disney files response to Governor Desantis' motion to dismiss their case against him.

Disney Rejects Ron DeSantis’ Desire To Kill Retaliation Suit; “The Governor Seeks To Evade Responsibility For His Actions,” Mouse House Says

The Bob Iger-led company's expected reply to Florida's ambitious Governor is pretty blunt & to the point.

deadline.com

The response seems very good, in my unprofessional non-legal expert opinion. I hope the judge will view it the same and rule in favor of Disney.

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/disney-desantis-dismissal-opp-july-26.pdf

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I guess I got ahead of myself calling them shrewd. It explains why the $8 million wasn’t readily apparent on the budget summary.

So then what’s the game here? Are they trying to sow discord between Disney and their tenants?

I think your guess is certainly a possibility along with getting "good press" since most people will remember the lie they hear first more than the truth that comes later when it comes to news stories. The thing is, the Board isn't elected, so impressing the locals with their lies won't do them any good. Disney's lawyers would shred them in court if the Board's lawyers tried to use this as an example of the Board serving its constituents fairly.