News Red Car Trolley to close in early 2025

[DavidDL]

I stopped my regular attendance of DCA around the Mission: Breakout/Pixar Pier time. That said, I still keep a list of "Top 10 things to do while there" saved to my work computer, in case I ever did find myself in the park (Oogie Boogie Bash, etc.).

This is just another thing I now have to cross off that list. Disney really does hate that park and will do whatever they can to keep finding ways to ruin it. This decision is disgusting, really. I want to make a big fuss about it. But after dealing with everything announced at D23 (the loss of the river, potential loss of Muppets, etc.), I'm just tired and can't bring myself to.

I know it's only a matter of time until Disney loses me completely and today's announcement, however small, is just another click towards the inevitable.

 

[Squishy]

Im confused, is this ending because of budget cuts or is this ending because of construction? If its construction would that mean the parade route is going away as well?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

What does this have to have Lassiter?

He was part of the reason Red Car Trolley exists at DCA.

On an optimistic note, removal of the trolley frees up a lot flexibility for new parades

How so?

And this is a whole process that serves no actual utilitarian purpose.

Which can be said of the entire Disney theme parks and the entire Disney company haha. It’s all a big show!

Doesn't Five n Dime use some other vehicle?

Yes, but the concern is will they survive all the cuts that are coming to the parks.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I stand corrected on that front.

My point however is even clearer with that: it was put there in a desperate move to give the park something to do, not because it was a vision or a story.

You thought the red car was part of DCA 1.0? There's a LOT that has gone over your head.

 

[DLR92]

It occurs to me that this could be a lawyer move.

Undoubtedly a lot of people who aren't paying attention trip on the trolley tracks quite frequently, even though they also have brick surrounding them to make their presence more obvious.

The Trolley can't be tied to Walt and his Main Street, so it's much easier to rip out than the Main Street tracks would be.

Or it's further confirmation that all of Hollywoodland is going goodbye in favor of Avatar. Who knows.

I have tripped a few times over Main Street with the tracks

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I have tripped a few times over Main Street with the tracks

I’ve tripped walking up and down stairs - just cause people are clumsy doesn’t mean the entire theme park needs to be a giant bounce house haha

 

[Disney Irish]

He was part of the reason Red Car Trolley exists at DCA.

I highly doubt if he was still around that he would be pushing to keep it in this context.

 

[DavidDL]

While the Red Car Trolley is certainly important for park atmosphere, it is also physical evidence of what happens when Disney shows that they care about the details within their parks. It being constructed during the DCA 2.0 re-work means it was literally built as an attempt to convince park-goers that, "Hey, I know we sort of dropped the ball with this park initially but look at all this thematically appropriate detail and charm we are course-correcting it with".

Seeing it come down the street was a beacon and a reminder that Disney can care. Them announcing its removal and the inevitable empty, unused trolley track that is sure to sit there forever, is just another in your face reminder that, "Actually, we don't anymore."

 

[Disney Irish]

Im confused, is this ending because of budget cuts or is this ending because of construction? If its construction would that mean the parade route is going away as well?

Construction, unknown about future parades.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I highly doubt if he was still around that he would be pushing to keep it in this context.

And I think he would but it really doesn’t change the reality haha.

 

[Disney Irish]

And I think he would but it really doesn’t change the reality haha.

Well he wasn't some bastion of "no/limited IPs in the Parks", so not sure where some are getting this idea he would protect it. But yes you're right it doesn't change the reality.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Well he wasn't some bastion of "no/limited IPs in the Parks", so not sure where some are getting this idea he would protect it. But yes you're right it doesn't change the reality.

He is a huge railfan and he was a part of this project to begin with. He also brought back 2 dead attractions - the Omni mover at the seas and the submarines. Yes they were for Pixar IP’s but they weren’t coming back without him.

 

[Disney Irish]

He is a huge railfan and he was a part of this project to begin with. He also brought back 2 dead attractions - the Omni mover at the seas and the submarines. Yes they were for Pixar IP’s but they weren’t coming back without him.

And he was also part of the reason we have Pixar Pier. So lets not hold him up as some factious savior of non-IP experiences just because he was involved in bringing Red Car to the Park. If someone said let retheme X to Pixar but it'll require removing the Red Car I'm fairly confident he'd have said yes do and signed off on it.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

And he was also part of the reason we have Pixar Pier. So lets not hold him up as some factious savior of non-IP experiences just because he was involved in bringing Red Car to the Park.

I’m not…. He likes trains and would probably have tried to keep the trolley in my opinion. That’s all I’m saying. Who knows for sure! Ha

 

[Misted Compass]

Im confused, is this ending because of budget cuts or is this ending because of construction? If its construction would that mean the parade route is going away as well?

Construction is the stated reason. The parade route follows a different path than the trolley does once it gets to GOTG (the parade route goes east through the backstage gate while the trolley goes west through the Avengers building)

 

[Disney Irish]

I’m not…. He likes trains and would probably have tried to keep the trolley in my opinion. That’s all I’m saying. Who knows for sure! Ha

If he really liked trains he would have found a way to bring the DLRR into DCA too.

Imagine making a real grand circle tour that included DCA too with scenes from CA, like going through Gold Country.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

I mean, I guess there’s a semi-decent chance that the Trolley does return in some form? I’ll gladly inhale the copium until Disney officially announces it’s dead.

 

[build_it]

I really hope they determine they can and will keep it, but based on the D23 announcements, I’m not hopeful. I don’t expect the parks won’t change, but current park management is a huge disappointment. They seem bound and determined to make their mark, without realizing their marks are blemishes. Oh well, it’s making it easier and easier to spend money not at a Disney Park.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

I said goodbye to the trolley when the News Boys show was canceled.

It was pretty obvious when Avengers Campus was being constructed that the trolley's future was questionable. And the gradual and continual loss of CA theming in DCA made this move inevitable. There's just no way to make an Avatar Land happen in "California". So I think with that build, we will finally get a new name for the park. And maybe even a whole new front of the park, because what the heck does Walt coming to CA have to do with Pandora? Just acknowledge that this is the PixarPandoraMultiverse Park and be done with it. Though I'd love it if they leaned into making this the Sci-Fi/Fantasy park and tore out all the junky pier leftovers from DCA 1.0. A park that has Pandora, Avengers, Cars Land and Coco has potential. Everything else could really go. Add Tron here too and it would make a heck of an entrance - you enter the Grid and go through portals to different realms or "video games". Theming accomplished. And it's an excuse to bring back ElecTRONica. #win

 

[Disney Irish]

I mean, I guess there’s a semi-decent chance that the Trolley does return in some form? I’ll gladly inhale the copium until Disney officially announces it’s dead.

Agreed, until its official its not really permanently gone.