lazyboy97o
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No, Race Through New York is a completely new ride that replaced Twister. Jimmy Neutron’s NickToon Blast became the original Minion Mayhem that is still open.
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News Red Car Trolley to close February 8, 2025
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Phroobar
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So this is just a 4d moving theater ride like Honey I Shrunk the Audience.
BrianLo
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No, that’s still Minion Mayhem at USO.
It’s this platform where the entire audience moves on a platter, essentially. More akin to a large Star Tours.
PiratesMansion
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It replaced the old Twister with a new ride system. In experience, it plays sort of like budget Soarin' in NYC with Jimmy Fallon and his cast of characters from his show.
Phroobar
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So like HISTA but with more movement. Like a large Star tours. Thanks!
SSG
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I'm back from four days in the parks and took the opportunity for a final ride on the Red Car. While there, I heard something interesting. On the other side of the car was a group from the Southern California Railway Museum. They operate some historic trains and trolleys at their facility.
socalrailway.org
They were filming the last days of the Trolley for their YouTube channel. The fellow who seemed to be in charge said that Disney offered to sell the Red Car's tracks to the museum, but they declined because the tracks were wrong for their operation.
If this guy was on the level and Disney plans on tearing out the tracks and are looking to sell them, that doesn't bode well for the Red Car ever coming back.
Anyway, pinch of salt and all that. It's just what I overheard.
Southern California Railway Museum - Bringing Railway History to Life
Explore the West’s largest collection of railway locomotives, streetcars, electric cars, buildings & other artifacts dating from the 1870’s. Ride streetcars & trains on the Museum railway, visit the collection of more than 200 railway vehicles, & experience the early days of electric, steam, &...
socalrailway.org
They were filming the last days of the Trolley for their YouTube channel. The fellow who seemed to be in charge said that Disney offered to sell the Red Car's tracks to the museum, but they declined because the tracks were wrong for their operation.
If this guy was on the level and Disney plans on tearing out the tracks and are looking to sell them, that doesn't bode well for the Red Car ever coming back.
Anyway, pinch of salt and all that. It's just what I overheard.
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lazyboy97o
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They even have Ward Kimball’s trains!I'm back from four days in the parks and took the opportunity for a final ride on the Red Car. While there, I heard something interesting. On the other side of the car was a group from the Southern California Railway Museum. They operate some historic trains and trolleys at their facility.
Southern California Railway Museum - Bringing Railway History to Life
Explore the West’s largest collection of railway locomotives, streetcars, electric cars, buildings & other artifacts dating from the 1870’s. Ride streetcars & trains on the Museum railway, visit the collection of more than 200 railway vehicles, & experience the early days of electric, steam, &...
They were filming the last days of the Trolley for their YouTube channel. The fellow who seemed to be in charge said that Disney offered to sell the Red Car's tracks to the museum, but they declined because the tracks were wrong for their operation.
If this guy was on the level and Disney plans on tearing out the tracks and are looking to sell them, that doesn't bode well for the Red Car ever coming back.
Anyway, pinch of salt and all that. It's just what I overheard.
Rich T
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USF isn’t a great park currently, but it’s a very good one. What it lacks in beauty (excluding Diagon Alley, which is flat-out gorgeous) it makes up for in energy. I think it will improve greatly with the replacements for Rip Ride Rocket and Simpsons .
IOA is my favorite U.S. theme park that isn’t DL. Hagrid’s and Velocicoaster ramped it up to the top tier for me.
Rich T
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I really like the rest of your comment, but I gotta defend Seuss Landing. Except for that one painted building side behind One Fish Two Fish, that whole land is beautifully sculpted. Put a Mt. Crumpet Grinch Coaster between One Fish and McGerkus, and the place would be near-perfect.
BrianLo
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If rides are the sole focus, IOA ranks quite highly. I used to have IOA as my second or third domestically in the mid 2010’s and now it has fallen to 7th.
Two lands are on the very short list to be gutted (one is an unacceptable ghost town) and two lands are vying to be modernized to the current standards of their franchises. A fifth never got its signature attraction that they were circling around a decade ago. There’s a complete dearth of entertainment in the park, no night show and the food sucks. The park layout is suboptimal and not as pleasant to navigate compared to a radial spoke or grid.
TrainsOfDisney
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Yes… but thrill rides. Universal attractions are incredible but I can’t spend a day riding them - too intense. Sadly Disney is going in that direction as well. I like having a variety of attractions and entertainment to choose from.
Gentle and fun attractions like red car trolley are key to having a well balanced theme park.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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This is why DCA could use a trackless MMRR family ride as part of what gets built in the Simba lot.
TrainsOfDisney
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Even MMRR (which is already next door at Disneyland) doesn’t fill the role that red car trolley does. Disneyland Railroad, Monorail, People mover, Main Street transportation, riverboat….
Rich T
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The park, though, as a whole, is beautiful, pleasant, fun and relaxjng. It’s got three of the best coasters and two of the best dark rides on the planet. It’s designed for walking around in a loop, leisurely taking things as they come. I love how far that is from the current Disney model of staring at one’s phone while cross-crossing about trying to make and keep reservations. No thanks.
The food is great… if one hits the right places. It does take some trial and error. And If/when Marvel and Toon Lagoon get replaced, I certainly won’t shed a tear. But for long term placeholders, they’re certainly fun. Heck, I’ll take either of them over MK’s New Fantasyland or current Avenger’s Campus any day.
To each his own. I enjoy IoA more than any WDW park. But this is coming from a Passholder who often arrives for early entry, rides Hagrid’s and Forbidden Journey, eats at Three Broomsticks and then leaves while grabbing a Voodoo donut at Citywalk on the way out. It’s a great morning walk routine.
TrainsOfDisney
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I hate to tell you this…. But that morning walk doesn’t do much good if you have a voodoo donut! (Writing this from juniors cheesecake in nyc) haha
Rich T
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I know. I’m trying to do better. But, man, their Chocolate Ring is the best classic chocolate-iced donut on the planet…
PiratesMansion
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While I really enjoy IOA, I do find that it's TOO heavy on thrill rides (and I say this as someone who loves thrill rides). And that a lot of the details that people herald at the park that make it something something "Universal's equivalent of Disney" when it comes to theming don't really hold a lot of water outside of Hogsmeade.The park, though, as a whole, is beautiful, pleasant, fun and relaxjng. It’s got three of the best coasters and two of the best dark rides on the planet. It’s designed for walking around in a loop, leisurely taking things as they come. I love how far that is from the current Disney model of staring at one’s phone while cross-crossing about trying to make and keep reservations. No thanks.
The food is great… if one hits the right places. It does take some trial and error. And If/when Marvel and Toon Lagoon get replaced, I certainly won’t shed a tear. But for long term placeholders, they’re certainly fun. Heck, I’ll take either of them over MK’s New Fantasyland or current Avenger’s Campus any day.
To each his own. I enjoy IoA more than any WDW park. But this is coming from a Passholder who often arrives for early entry, rides Hagrid’s and Forbidden Journey, eats at Three Broomsticks and then leaves while grabbing a Voodoo donut at Citywalk on the way out. It’s a great morning walk routine.
Great park, sure, better overall than any of the ones at WDW, probably. But I still feel that the park as a whole is a tad overrated/overhyped.
Rich T
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My IoA fandom is boosted by my lifelong love of Dr. Seuss’s books, so all the insane, wonderful deep-cut references, cameos and hidden treasures in Seuss Landing go a long way with me. From that point of view, it’s as lovingly designed as Hogsmead, though more from a celebration angle than a meticulous creation of a fictional place. The Carouseussel is one of the greatest and most underappreciated works of art in the history of theme parks.
Also, I’m a geezer who gets all the references in Toon Lagoon. It’s like stepping back into my comics-and-Saturday Morning childhood. But I realize that maybe 90% of the park’s guests have no idea who any of those characters are. And without the nostalgia factor, all that’s left is some clever design work (that big 2–part fountain is brilliant).
I just overall find the entire park a beautiful, fun, relaxing place to be.
But, I wholeheartedly agree the park needs to improve by bringing in more all-age attractions. And no more water rides. I’d start with one more gentle flat ride, another big dark ride and a major less-intense-than-Hagrid’s family coaster.
Marvel, Toon Lagoon and Lost Continent all need to be reworked or replaced. But, considering that, they’re still fun. Even now-attraction-less (sorry Mystic Fountain) Lost Continent is the prettiest land-to-speed-walk-through-on-morning-rush-to-Hagrid’s anyone could ask for.
To keep this on-Topic: Seuss Sky Trolley > Red Car.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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My thoughts exactly. Except include the Sunset theater as part of the Avatar Land. Philiarmagic is always dead.