News Red Car Trolley to close February 8, 2025

lazyboy97o

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Isn't the Fallon ride basically the Minon Mayhem ride at USH? It's the old Jimmy Neutron ride.
No, Race Through New York is a completely new ride that replaced Twister. Jimmy Neutron’s NickToon Blast became the original Minion Mayhem that is still open.
 

BrianLo

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So this is just a 4d moving theater ride like Honey I Shrunk the Audience.

No, that’s still Minion Mayhem at USO.

It’s this platform where the entire audience moves on a platter, essentially. More akin to a large Star Tours.

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SSG

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I'm back from four days in the parks and took the opportunity for a final ride on the Red Car. While there, I heard something interesting. On the other side of the car was a group from the Southern California Railway Museum. They operate some historic trains and trolleys at their facility.


They were filming the last days of the Trolley for their YouTube channel. The fellow who seemed to be in charge said that Disney offered to sell the Red Car's tracks to the museum, but they declined because the tracks were wrong for their operation.

If this guy was on the level and Disney plans on tearing out the tracks and are looking to sell them, that doesn't bode well for the Red Car ever coming back.

Anyway, pinch of salt and all that. It's just what I overheard.
 
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lazyboy97o

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I'm back from four days in the parks and took the opportunity for a final ride on the Red Car. While there, I heard something interesting. On the other side of the car was a group from the Southern California Railway Museum. They operate some historic trains and trolleys at their facility.


They were filming the last days of the Trolley for their YouTube channel. The fellow who seemed to be in charge said that Disney offered to sell the Red Car's tracks to the museum, but they declined because the tracks were wrong for their operation.

If this guy was on the level and Disney plans on tearing out the tracks and are looking to sell them, that doesn't bode well for the Red Car ever coming back.

Anyway, pinch of salt and all that. It's just what I overheard.
They even have Ward Kimball’s trains!
 

Rich T

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The UOR comparison doesn’t really work too well because Universal Studios Florida, frankly, is not a good park, and Islands has been in a relative stasis for 25 years with the exception of Wizarding World.
USF isn’t a great park currently, but it’s a very good one. What it lacks in beauty (excluding Diagon Alley, which is flat-out gorgeous) it makes up for in energy. I think it will improve greatly with the replacements for Rip Ride Rocket and Simpsons .

IOA is my favorite U.S. theme park that isn’t DL. Hagrid’s and Velocicoaster ramped it up to the top tier for me.
 

Rich T

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… I really don't like Super Hero Island, Seuss Landing, or Toon Lagoon's lands. Certain attractions look fantastic on their own, but the lands of giant 2-D cut outs and panels doesn't do it for me….
I really like the rest of your comment, but I gotta defend Seuss Landing. Except for that one painted building side behind One Fish Two Fish, that whole land is beautifully sculpted. Put a Mt. Crumpet Grinch Coaster between One Fish and McGerkus, and the place would be near-perfect. 😃
 

BrianLo

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USF isn’t a great park currently, but it’s a very good one. What it lacks in beauty (excluding Diagon Alley, which is flat-out gorgeous) it makes up for in energy. I think it will improve greatly with the replacements for Rip Ride Rocket and Simpsons .

IOA is my favorite U.S. theme park that isn’t DL. Hagrid’s and Velocicoaster ramped it up to the top tier for me.

If rides are the sole focus, IOA ranks quite highly. I used to have IOA as my second or third domestically in the mid 2010’s and now it has fallen to 7th.

Two lands are on the very short list to be gutted (one is an unacceptable ghost town) and two lands are vying to be modernized to the current standards of their franchises. A fifth never got its signature attraction that they were circling around a decade ago. There’s a complete dearth of entertainment in the park, no night show and the food sucks. The park layout is suboptimal and not as pleasant to navigate compared to a radial spoke or grid.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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If rides are the sole focus, IOA ranks quite highly.
Yes… but thrill rides. Universal attractions are incredible but I can’t spend a day riding them - too intense. Sadly Disney is going in that direction as well. I like having a variety of attractions and entertainment to choose from.

Gentle and fun attractions like red car trolley are key to having a well balanced theme park.
 

TheDisneyParksfanC8

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Yes… but thrill rides. Universal attractions are incredible but I can’t spend a day riding them - too intense. Sadly Disney is going in that direction as well. I like having a variety of attractions and entertainment to choose from.

Gentle and fun attractions like red car trolley are key to having a well balanced theme park.
This is why DCA could use a trackless MMRR family ride as part of what gets built in the Simba lot.
 

Rich T

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If rides are the sole focus, IOA ranks quite highly. I used to have IOA as my second or third domestically in the mid 2010’s and now it has fallen to 7th.

Two lands are on the very short list to be gutted (one is an unacceptable ghost town) and two lands are vying to be modernized to the current standards of their franchises. A fifth never got its signature attraction that they were circling around a decade ago. There’s a complete dearth of entertainment in the park, no night show and the food sucks. The park layout is suboptimal and not as pleasant to navigate compared to a radial spoke or grid.
The park, though, as a whole, is beautiful, pleasant, fun and relaxjng. It’s got three of the best coasters and two of the best dark rides on the planet. It’s designed for walking around in a loop, leisurely taking things as they come. I love how far that is from the current Disney model of staring at one’s phone while cross-crossing about trying to make and keep reservations. No thanks.

The food is great… if one hits the right places. It does take some trial and error. And If/when Marvel and Toon Lagoon get replaced, I certainly won’t shed a tear. But for long term placeholders, they’re certainly fun. Heck, I’ll take either of them over MK’s New Fantasyland or current Avenger’s Campus any day.

To each his own. I enjoy IoA more than any WDW park. But this is coming from a Passholder who often arrives for early entry, rides Hagrid’s and Forbidden Journey, eats at Three Broomsticks and then leaves while grabbing a Voodoo donut at Citywalk on the way out. It’s a great morning walk routine. 😃
 

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