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[WDW Monorail]

Well, we don't how much of other things may be cut ... heck, we don't know that they haven't shortened the shows and/or eliminated pyro. There are many things that could be happening to save money and make things less magical behind the scenes (of course you don't tend to see threads on this site when Disney raises food prices or cuts items or forces DVCers to get night sweats because that would be bashing the Mouse -- not enough sarcastic smileys in the world for me here!)

Nope, not happening.

 

[George]

If it ain't enough by now, I'm not sure what the magic number would have to be. :lookaroun

The magic number was "8". The plan is to go back to the Mission to Mars attraction. However, it has been held up since they have to reshoot the seagull messing up the signal footage and PETA is giving them a hard time.

Last June, my parents and sister's families went into SGE not picking up on the cue that my family, the regular Disney goers sent, which was that we would rather stand outside in the 9000 degree sunlight and wait for them to come out. :lol:

 

[George]

Agreed. I think most would fall somewhere in the middle. But, I see a major point that is missed by the few that are continually negative. They should simply address it to where it has the potential of being resolved... guest relations. Too many seem to think they can air their issues (valid or not) on a fan board and it will be fixed. That's rarely, if ever true. The only thing it really does is cause those that are here for information to get some jaded view of WDW.

I've posted it before and I'll repeat it now. I pointed someone here once that was planning a vacation. The next time I saw them, they were questioning whether they should even go if things were so bad. As a good "apologist," I let them know they shouldn't worry. They went, had a great time and now they go every year or so. But, they do not come here for information. That single incident changed the way I see this forum.

I would much rather people come here for good information. Steve does a great job of trying to be sure HIS information is accurate. Unfortunately, not everyone does that.

To sum it up, far more harm is done with the continual negative posting. Their hopes of things being the way THEY want it to be just won't materialize because they posted it on a fan board. More likely, they could cause someone to question a trip and I would hope that's the last thing anyone would want. (Actually, I think some do hope to negatively affect business due to some strange logic that's only apparent in their head.)

I've NEVER had a "perfect" trip to WDW. Something will always happen simply due to the fact that people are involved. Mistakes happen or things get missed. If it's something that I find will hurt customer relations, I drop by Guest Relations and let them know. I've never encountered a problem that I consider major, but yet they have always treated the issue as if it was very important and addressed it.

You bring up some interesting points. I'm not sure if they're good or not, I'll need some convincing either way. For the record, I'm a middle of the roader. I've liked some stuff and disliked some stuff at WDW over the years. But, you have an opinion on what the purpose of the boards is. You would like to lower negativity (i.e. discussions of the type that take place in news and rumors and to a lesser degree in General discussions). However, what attracted me to this board WAS the disagreement and discussions taking place. Much more interesting place than some of the other Disney boards I looked at. Sometimes, I'm not in the mood to participate, but they're interesting reads. Of course, since I've been going to the World since 1972 you could argue that I'm not someone being dissuaded from their vacation by reading these boards. My feeling is that this would be a very rare occurrence. Maybe you're a bit too biased because of the person who almost cancelled their trip. :shrug: Just a thought. Anyhoo, would it alleviate your concern any if News and Rumors and General Discussion were a bit lower down in the forums so us regulars could check 'em out and Trip Planning and the like were at the top so vacation planners could check those out right away? I don't think you're going to get rid of "negativity" so long as Steve is cool with lively debate and discussion.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I didn't say there weren't threads critical of Disney here or individuals.
They just tend to get lost very quickly amidst a sea of pixie dust and getting excited over NORMAL things ... like cleaning, painting, maintaining or the building of timeshares etc ... I expect more from Disney.

This post brings up another point. I see comment after comment from you complaining about the caliber of membership on this board, and the alleged abysmally low level of critical thinking present around here (hopefully you'll agree that's an accurate characterization of your position, and not a cheap shot or distortion) — and it makes me wonder exactly why you choose to hang out with us.

Hopefully this doesn't come off as a "love it or leave it" sentiment, since that's not how I roll, variety being the spice of life and all.

I have to admit, though, I do wonder about the motivations of people who clearly think they're too cool for the room (as you seem to) without leaving the room.

Is there a daily ego boost involved from being able to compare yourself with the unwashed masses? Is there a faint glimmer of hope you'll be able to guide a few benighted souls out of their unquestioning loyalty into a state of higher consciousness? Is it just a matter of any reaction being a good one, as long as someone's paying attention? Or is it one of life's unanswerable riddles that even the subject doesn't understand, like "why does Bob like Crunch Berries, while his twin brother Bill prefers hot oatmeal with peaches and cinnamon?"

(For the record, I know you despise being the subject of any personal inquiries, so hopefully you'll forgive the unlicensed psychiatrist in me just this once.)

 

[WDW1974]

Frankly anyone who would base their entire vacation plans on the postings of a few threads in one Disney forum, has a problem.

If I listened to that WDW1974 dude, then I wouldn't be going to WDW for 11 days. Nope. ... And I wouldn't be going to DL later this summer ... and TDL later this year ... (and just possibly, maybe, kinda, just came up and I hope it happens ... DLP in between!!!)

Nope ... that WDW1974 hates Disney and writes nothing but evil, vile LIES about the company because they wouldn't hire him to clean up after the horses on Main Street and he has never forgiven them for that.

We should ban the Commie and send him to North Korea.

 

[WDW1974]

Nope, not happening.

Good to hear ... haven't done the Fourth show since 2006 ... do you know if this is the same one or different?

And any idea what the Studios show will be like?

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Good to hear ... haven't done the Fourth show since 2006 ... do you know if this is the same one or different?

And any idea what the Studios show will be like?

Nope, new show debuted last year for MK. A Concert in the Sky is the new name I think.


Nice show.

 

[WDW Monorail]

Good to hear ... haven't done the Fourth show since 2006 ... do you know if this is the same one or different?

And any idea what the Studios show will be like?

MK will have a different show than 2006. It debuted last year and ran for 4 nights. Much improved over 4thf of July FitS I think. It's much more choreographed rather than throwing up shells while some music is played. It is called Disney's Celebrate America, a 4th of July Concert in the Sky.

EPCOT will have the same show as past years since 2006.

DHS will more than likely have the same since 2004. I have not heard of a new show.

As for DL's 4 shows, I am greatly looking forward to seeing them. Hopefully at least one will be complete but I'm also hoping for new pyro design. Last year's show lacked in the shell design department. But that's understandable for a certain reason.

 

[WDW1974]

This post brings up another point. I see comment after comment from you complaining about the caliber of membership on this board, and the alleged abysmally low level of critical thinking present around here (hopefully you'll agree that's an accurate characterization of your position, and not a cheap shot or distortion) — and it makes me wonder exactly why you choose to hang out with us.

I won't take that as a cheap shot, but I do feel it's a distortion to some degree.

It may be the result of some frustrated hyperbole on my part. I feel that the characterization you present is a vocal minority here, but a minority. I think the majority of members here (ones I interact with anyway) are intelligent (some highly so), articulate, rational folks ... and that's whether they agree with me or not. And no one agrees 100% of the time, no matter what.

Frankly, it's the vocal minority that make this a less than magical place (my opinion) because they don't seem capable of viewing things through anything but the narrowest prism and they tend to go on constant attacks when they feel WDW and its management team are being questioned.

Hopefully this doesn't come off as a "love it or leave it" sentiment, since that's not how I roll, variety being the spice of life and all.

Not at all. Although that sentiment has been common here since I started posting.

I have to admit, though, I do wonder about the motivations of people who clearly think they're too cool for the room (as you seem to) without leaving the room.

If I thought I was too cool for the room then I wouldn't be in da room.

Is there a daily ego boost involved from being able to compare yourself with the unwashed masses? Is there a faint glimmer of hope you'll be able to guide a few benighted souls out of their unquestioning loyalty into a state of higher consciousness? Is it just a matter of any reaction being a good one, as long as someone's paying attention? Or is it one of life's unanswerable riddles that even the subject doesn't understand, like "why does Bob like Crunch Berries, while his twin brother Bill prefers hot oatmeal with peaches and cinnamon?"

I don't get any ego boosts from being here, sadly ... yes, I would like people to think more (be it about Disney or anything in life) and I do tend to post things that make people think ... or immediately post some venon in my direction. ... as to attention, I'd like to think if I had nothing of substance to say that I'd be ignored (although I am confident enough to damn well know that most of what I say has substance) ... and I am not much into breakfast myself ... unless it's in Vegas at 3 a.m.

Does that help?

(For the record, I know you despise being the subject of any personal inquiries, so hopefully you'll forgive the unlicensed psychiatrist in me just this once.)

I responded. But no, I don't like being the subject of anything ... this site is about Disney, mostly WDW. It isn't about me. If Steve wants to start a site about me then he can contact my reps. But beyond that I'd rather discuss Disney.

 

[WDW1974]

MK will have a different show than 2006. It debuted last year and ran for 4 nights. Much improved over 4thf of July FitS I think. It's much more choreographed rather than throwing up shells while some music is played. It is called Disney's Celebrate America, a 4th of July Concert in the Sky.

EPCOT will have the same show as past years since 2006.

DHS will more than likely have the same since 2004. I have not heard of a new show.

As for DL's 4 shows, I am greatly looking forward to seeing them. Hopefully at least one will be complete but I'm also hoping for new pyro design. Last year's show lacked in the shell design department. But that's understandable for a certain reason.

Thanks for the info.

I'm gonna try and hit all three Disney shows and Sea World's in the two nights ... depending on weather and conditions.

Have done MK and EC many times before but never Studios or SW, but it will make an interesting experience if I can do it.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Nope, new show debuted last year for MK. A Concert in the Sky is the new name I think.


Nice show.

Wasn't there a member here who used to go and record the show to boradcast on this site??? I want to say his name was Ryan but I would probably be wrong.. Him and his girlfriend used to do the videos in WDW for this site...

 

[Captain Chaos]

Thanks for the info.

I'm gonna try and hit all three Disney shows and Sea World's in the two nights ... depending on weather and conditions.

Have done MK and EC many times before but never Studios or SW, but it will make an interesting experience if I can do it.

Good luck and hope you enjoy it.. But, that is impossible right?? You are a negative nellie.. LOL.. j/k...

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Wasn't there a member here who used to go and record the show to boradcast on this site??? I want to say his name was Ryan but I would probably be wrong.. Him and his girlfriend used to do the videos in WDW for this site...

Merf's name was Robert, and that's all I can think of.:shrug:

 

[One Lil Spark]

Merf's name was Robert, and that's all I can think of.:shrug:

Nah, I think they're talking about ____________ ($ l e d g e, the evil one)...

 

[maggiegrace1]

They are talking about Rylan I think and his gf..but they are not here anymore either..

 

[One Lil Spark]

They are talking about Rylan I think and his gf..but they are not here anymore either..

Ah, that's at least a name that makes it past the site filter! LOVE that Steve added ____________ to the filtered words. :lol:

 

[maggiegrace1]

Ah, that's at least a name that makes it past the site filter! LOVE that Steve added ____________ to the filtered words. :lol:

:lol:

I know..I think it is great..

____________...____________...____________...

:ROFLOL:

 

[wdwmagic]

Good to hear ... haven't done the Fourth show since 2006 ... do you know if this is the same one or different?

And any idea what the Studios show will be like?

Here are the details on the show

http://www.wdwmagic.com/Events/Disneys-Celebrate-America-A-Fourth-of-July-Concert-in-the-Sky.htm

Video at http://www.wdwmagic.com/Events/Disn...A-Fourth-of-July-Concert-in-the-Sky/Video.htm

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

:lol:

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:

Oh yeah, be careful I think he has some brass knuckles also..

:lol:

Funniest thing ever!

This thread is hilarious...do you people realize how silly you sound..:hammer:this is an online forum..it is not like you all are talking to each other face to face in a room...do you even know who wannb is?..you act like he is going to come to your house and beat you up..might as well get a restraining order...

Put it this way, even if he did, Id hazard a bet Ive flushed harder things away :dazzle:.

No offence to dis, but to suggest that foot stamping posts on an open forum are some sort of test of prowess is taking it too far. But to be fair it was his bum chum Jt that suggested his on line battling abilities.

Its just a bit of banter about an amusement park. Nothing more. :wave:

 

[Brian Noble]

Why wait to release the information????

Perhaps they were just short of round tuits. As Napolean suggests: never ascribe to malice that which could be explained by incompetence.

It's also possible that they were still considering pulling them back if the expected bookings did not materialize, but needed to schedule resources internally for those bookings. I suspect they would rather announce an expansion late than a contraction at all.

But, in the grand scheme of things, I can't get too worked up about late-announced extensions. They really have been going on all year. Going back over my notes, our trip in late February had hours extended and entertainment added as late as February 12th or so.