queue etiquitte question

[head mouse]

Scenario 3:

Within the inside of the queue, Group A has not yet reached the end of the line (The people in front of them). They are walking through as normal, then they either stop or nearly stop to: view some minute detail of the queue, go through a bag, un-child a stroller, or discuss whether or not they want to even get on the thing. Group B is closing fast. They go around Group A.

Is this cutting? Is it rude or unethical?

This all depends on the situation. if group A is just dealing with a child or quickly looking at details, then I say group B needs to wait. However if Group A is just talking and not paying attention and Group B signals or informs Group A that the line has moved up, and Group A still does not move, then Group B should go around or if Group A is taking a lot of time looking at details, then they should let the line move around them.

 

[Scooter]

I agree with 1 and 2

As for the 3rd situation, if someone stops to tie their shoe, or take a picture, no one should pass them up in line. Again, it depends on how long they are holding up the line. I don't pass up people who just stop for a short time.

If I, personally am in line, and I feel the need to stop to read something in the queue line, and I feel like I'm holding up the line, I politely wave people behind and let them know it's ok to pass me.

If people pass me because of their lack of politeness and/or patience, I do nothing, because I refuse to let a few rude people spoil my vacation...well maybe I glare at them a little bit but that's it.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

As for the 3rd situation, if someone stops to tie their shoe, or take a picture, no one should pass them up in line. Again, it depends on how long they are holding up the line. I don't pass up people who just stop for a short time.

Just to clarify my position, I agree with you. A momentary stop should be respected, and it's the height of impatience to blow past someone who wants to get one quick picture.

On the other hand, I think it would be the height of narcissism for someone to stop for longer than, say, 30 seconds and expect everyone else to stop behind them while they do whatever it is they're doing.

Maybe it's a question of degrees? :shrug:

 

[Hakunamatata]

I think common sense should be the driving factor. I also believe people should be aware of their surroundings and if they want to stop in line to snap a photo, tie their shoe, or beat their child they should let others around.

If someone is simply stopping to check to see if that is gum on the floor or the ring from the haunted mansion, then, people behind should be patient.

 

[MouseMadness]

Just to clarify my position, I agree with you. A momentary stop should be respected, and it's the height of impatience to blow past someone who wants to get one quick picture.

On the other hand, I think it would be the height of narcissism for someone to stop for longer than, say, 30 seconds and expect everyone else to stop behind them while they do whatever it is they're doing.

Maybe it's a question of degrees? :shrug:

We were in line behind a couple of guys who spoke VERY little english for Splash Mountain, and they stopped to take 5 or 6 pictures along the way. The people behind me were huffing and rolling their eyes, but I honestly couldn't have cared less :lol: We'll all get there, and no later than we would have otherwise. :shrug:

(I do get annoyed by the bathroom break takers who come back to "their" spot, though. Before we get in line there is a "Go now or wait!" command given to the kids :lol: )

 

[Computer Magic]

I think both sides can be annoying. People going around me or stepping in front of me or passing because I'm looking at the queue area.

Everyone needs to relax and enjoy themselves, why are people in such a rush :shrug:

 

[Computer Magic]

We were in line behind a couple of guys who spoke VERY little english for Splash Mountain, and they stopped to take 5 or 6 pictures along the way. The people behind me were huffing and rolling their eyes, but I honestly couldn't have cared less :lol: We'll all get there, and no later than we would have otherwise. :shrug:

(I do get annoyed by the bathroom break takers who come back to "their" spot, though. Before we get in line there is a "Go now or wait!" command given to the kids :lol: )

Perfectly said.

ALso the line holder....It goes from me being third in line and on the ride next to 15th in line because the entire family is called on the cell phone.

 

[unkadug]

I know this isn't suppose to be about line cutting and bathroom breaks, but I came across a policy at Sesame Place regarding such that I wish was implemented at Disney.

Line Cutting Policy
Line cutting is prohibited at all rides, attractions and shows. Line cutting for any reason can result in ejection from the park. No refunds will be issued. Sesame Place defines line cutting as: Cutting in front of other guests who are already in line, saving a spot for another guest, or leaving a line, then attempting to re-enter at the same point. This includes leaving the line to use the restroom or to place items in a locker.

Please make all stops before entering the line.

 

[Hakunamatata]

I know this isn't suppose to be about line cutting and bathroom breaks, but I came across a policy at Sesame Place regarding such that I wish was implemented at Disney.

That would make it alot more simple. However, it would cause problems with some large tour groups....

 

[unkadug]

That would make it alot more simple. However, it would cause problems with some large tour groups....

Wouldn't hurt my feelings if big tour groups had to take a back-seat to regular guests.

Break them up into smaller tour groups that can follow the same rules as everybody else.

 

[J_Krafty24]

What, because someone gets kicked out of the park for line jumping? That would be their own darn fault. The more you enforce it the less people are going to attempt it. If someone has to spend the afternoon sitting on a bench outside of the park because they were being a jerk so be it. At least the correct people are being inconvienced (the rule brakers as opposed to those being cut in front of).

Also, from my experience most places have a similarly worded line jumping policy. They just don't enforce it.

 

[Scooter]

Sometimes too it's a judgement call.

Some queue lines are wider than others and it doesn't hurt anyone to go around them.

In queue lines like Pirates of The Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, Kilimanjaro Safaris, and Soarin Over Califorina, the lines start out really wide and then thin down when you get closer to the actual ride/attraction. I have more patience when people go around me in these queue lines because they are built to hold more people and when I see people that are standing in these lines "single file" I tend to go around them. I usually glance up at them first and hope I get an "No proplem my friend" look from them. I might add I have never had anyone glare at me or say anything bad to me in this situation.

 

[wedway71]

What happens if someone from Group A passes gas while in front of group B?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Disney does have a no line-cutting rule, but they don't enforce it because they also like repeat visitors and their money. However, if someone is trying to cut in line and it gets ridiculous, say no. I once saw one teenager in line in front of me and as he nears the front of the line, he makes a phone call and no fewer than 15 teenagers try to snake up to the front of the line. I'm usually pretty forgiving if it's a hot, muggy line and someone leaves the line to get a drink for the family and comes back, but this was ridiculous, so I said no. Luckily, after I said this, everyone in the line said no, so we didn't let the line of 15 kids cut in front of us. I don't think line-cutters should be thrown out of the park (seems a bit extreme to me), but they should certainly be forced to leave the line. I used to work at an amusement park (one loooooong summer) and if I saw line-cutters, I would say "go back to the entrance to the ride and try again." Calling security seemed a bit extreme...

 

[Valawen9]

Scenario 1:

Group A is approaching the outside of the beginning of the Queue, but is not yet in it. Group B is walking faster than A, yet not running or pushing. Perhaps Group A is fumbling around in a backpack or such. Group B walks around Group A and goes into the Queue.

I would suspect most of us would not consider this rude or unethical. Correct?

No I don't think its rude at all. They're not in the line YET so its not like you're cutting or anything.

Scenario 2:

Group A is inside the queue, directly behind the group in front of them, and the line is at a dead stop. Group B goes around them.

I would suspect all of us would consider this rude, unethical, and grounds for penalty of some type.

Well for me, if "Group B" is one or two people catching up with their group I don't care if they go by me. If "Group B" is like 6 or 12 people then yeah, I have a problem with them getting in front of me and my friend.

Scenario 3:

Within the inside of the queue, Group A has not yet reached the end of the line (The people in front of them). They are walking through as normal, then they either stop or nearly stop to: view some minute detail of the queue, go through a bag, un-child a stroller, or discuss whether or not they want to even get on the thing. Group B is closing fast. They go around Group A.

Is this cutting? Is it rude or unethical?

I usually stop for a second and see if they tell me to pass them. If they're still fumbling around or not moving and seem like they aren't going anywhere any time soon then I go around. :shrug:

 

[TAC]

What I find "rude," is calling others who have a differing opinion than their own, "rude."

Guests and common sense usually do not go together in theme parks, especially Disney theme parks.

Different races, culture, different countries, even different areas of the USA have different definitions of "rude."

Did you know that the people of many countries of the world do not even recognize "queue" lines? It's part of their culture to just group as a "mob." Whomever pushes through gets to the front.

 

[cajunCinderella]

{Then you have Scenario #4, the non-line lines...those that are fill in the available space like Pirates, Terror and Fantasmic...in this case I think it's fight for yourself (like in traffic), or just stay behind the person in front of you and disregard people going by you to fill in the space left or right of you...}

I had and experience on our last trip at Philharmagic where the CM kept saying to the group in front of us to please move up and fill in all available space, well she said this maybe 4 times and they never moved. So she looked in our familys direction and said please move up and fill in all available space well my husband and my sons move up when one of the group in front of us realized this she decided to move over cutting me off from my family. I said excuse me very nicely so I could catch up to my family but she ignored me. So I asked again Ma'am please excuse me may I catch up to my family she then moved over so I could get through and then began to go on and on about me cutting in line and I wasnt going to get there any faster than her. I didnt say anything back to her cause I was not willing to stoop to her level but how can people be so nasty to complete strangers for something so foolish I'll never understand.

 

[Cole'sMom]

I agree, CajunCinderella. People are in wayyyy too much of a hurry on vacation. We are not people who hold up lines or go excessively slow, but why rush, rush, rush while on vacation? If people want to speed through life, then fine, but we will relish every second we have as a family at WDW. We have enough stress in our lives to not "let go" for a week.

 

[Dwarful]

Wow, I think common sense should just prevail. Certain scenarios are rude. We have been numerous times with big groups...the rule is Everybody try now...if you plan ahead you can avoid those issues. For those families who insist on blocking the entrance while they unload strollers, pack/unpack bags etc., just pass by quickly and go on your merry way! Relax, have fun and don't others ruin your vacation.

My big pet peeve is trying to help my children climb over the morons who push and shove to be first into the theater and then stop dead center leaving 20+ empty seats that MUST be filled.

 

[k.hunter30]

If people are taking up time in line and not paying attention, I'd at least say something befor i went ahead of them.

However, it seems people are always trying to sneak ahead of others in the safari line in AK - probably because it is so wide...? Has anyone else noticed this? It bugs me...