PUSH the Talking Trashcan's last day?

Mad Stitch

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Because he is a banned user...steve doesn't want the site promoted here

Oh, I didn't realize that. Sorry @wdwmagic.

The article said the contract may not have been renewed because the co-owner is wondering if Disney has figured out a way to get around the trademark protection to make their own Push.
 
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rudyjr13

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I posted a few pages back how annoyed I was about this. However, isn't there a difference between Disney cutting entertainment vs the 3rd party seemingly deciding to walk away? Don't get me wrong, it was in his right to walk but I'm wondering if hatred towards TDO this time is not warrented. I'll still blame them for the terrible state DHS and Epcot future world is in.
 

jlsHouston

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I posted a few pages back how annoyed I was about this. However, isn't there a difference between Disney cutting entertainment vs the 3rd party seemingly deciding to walk away? Don't get me wrong, it was in his right to walk but I'm wondering if hatred towards TDO this time is not warrented. I'll still blame them for the terrible state DHS and Epcot future world is in.

If Disney made changes to the original contract about ownership of the IP...I mean this company developed and operated PUSH for 19 years. Why would this company sign over ownership of their product or creative license willingly without major compensation?
Kind of ironic they sub out for this little gem for 19 years and isn't PUSH considered an animatronic ? OR whatever it's called... and the thing worked ?
 

Mad Stitch

Well-Known Member
Im confused on why it doesn't work. Can you clarify this for me?

Once a trademark is granted, in order to maintain ownership of the trademark additional paperwork must be filed to prove that it is in common usage on a regular basis. The co-owner of Push failed to do this so he may have lost the trademark to the character.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
My question though is....was it not WDW the blogs were citing and not the 3rd Party?
If the blogs were informed of anything, they were citing the Disney corporation, through their employees?

Post #1 in this thread from Member Tori...
Orlando Attractions Magazine heard from cast members it may be PUSH's last day on Saturday.
Anyone know if this is true?

1) who would make the distinction between contract workers backstage and disney hourly workers back stage? They could be called CMs interchangably for the context of the discussion
2) if you were passing along info 'on the down low' - why would you name the people explictly in a way that would make it clear who you talked to?

You're begging for precision in an area that intentionally would not have any.
 

GrumpyFan

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The IP is now public domain

Not if the owner copyrighted it. In which case it's good for his life, plus 70 years after. Even Disney's lawyers wont touch that, lest they could have the same finding turned against them and lose Mickey Mouse. I would assume PUSH is indeed copyrighted or else Disney would be able to re-create him without a contract with the owner.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Blogger intervention very well may have killed PUSH. If WDW caves to the blogosphere with PUSH, where does it stop?
Its not like blogosphere has much power, please stop blaming the fans when its something between a company and another.

I can't wait for the PUSH was discontinued due to obsolete technology press release. "We couldn't get those particular casters anymore and as a result the continued movement of the trash can became an insoluble problem."
he will be replaced by a talking tip-Jar-box for Disney Management voiced by Scrooge McDuck.

Yeah, before long they'd have to start catering to paying customers.
hahaha oh buuuuuuuuuuuurn!
mad hatter is now "Mad stitch" ? o_o
Oh, I didn't realize that. Sorry @wdwmagic.

The article said the contract may not have been renewed because the co-owner is wondering if Disney has figured out a way to get around the trademark protection to make their own Push.
wow, if thats true.. then its a very low blow.

"yeah! we found how to replace you with a similar device.. but without having to pay you.. so.. so long and thanks for all the fish! "

Not if the owner copyrighted it. In which case it's good for his life, plus 70 years after. Even Disney's lawyers wont touch that, lest they could have the same finding turned against them and lose Mickey Mouse. I would assume PUSH is indeed copyrighted or else Disney would be able to re-create him without a contract with the owner.
Agree, many companies are running to protect their long long logos, franchises ..etc.. via heavy lobbying.
 

NowInc

Well-Known Member
Not if the owner copyrighted it. In which case it's good for his life, plus 70 years after. Even Disney's lawyers wont touch that, lest they could have the same finding turned against them and lose Mickey Mouse. I would assume PUSH is indeed copyrighted or else Disney would be able to re-create him without a contract with the owner.

Disney would know those rights the best, as they are the ones responsible for Copyright Term Extension Act. So yes, agreed...they won't go near that.
 

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