Prices for the Polynesian DVC Bungalows

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Did some number crunching. If someone has $30K burning a whole in their pocket, it will take about 10 years to reach the break-even point at the Poly's rack rates.

Factor in the common 30% discount and it will take about 17 years to break-even.

Throw in a Disney loan and the break-even is closer to 30 years.

Stay at the Wilderness Lodge instead and the break-even is never. :jawdrop:

Wow, just wow.

Yeah, I guess one is born every minute.

Indeed - I just don't BELIEVE these prices
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
Indeed - I just don't BELIEVE these prices
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Sped2424

Well-Known Member
FOR AN ACTUAL 1,000 A NIGHT DOLLARS YOU COULD STAY IN A REAL BUNGALOW IN THE REAL BORA BORA WITH A REAL OCEAN UNDERNEATH YOUR BUNGALOW. INSTEAD OF HAVING A FLORIDA SWAMP BENEATH YOUR CABIN THAT IS SITUATED RIGHT NEXT TO A FERRY STATION THAT HONKS EVERY TIME IT ENTERS.
https://secure.fourseasons.com/content/fourseasons/en/booking/choose_room.html
WHO EVER PRICES THIS IS SO HILARIOUSLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY.
 
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DrewmanS

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If you are asking what the nightly rate of the bungalows are, then you are not the target demographic. Theses will be booked by those who money is no object. I am sure Disney already knows supply will outstrip demand even at this price point.

As a comparison, today the Atlanta Falcons announced that the premium seats in their new stadium will require a $45,000 seat license (one time fee) plus the cost of season tickets (about $350 per game). These seats represent less than 1% of the total available. While the price seems ridiculous to anyone on this board, my guess is there are corporations and rich ticket holders already lined up to purchase most of the premium tickets.
 

ryguy

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Is it 160 points for just the bungalows? How much is it for the studios? What were the point rates for the Floridian for comparison?
 

Unplugged

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Is it 160 points for just the bungalows? How much is it for the studios? What were the point rates for the Floridian for comparison?

Nope, it's $160 per point at the discounted DVC rate and use the numbers posted by flyerjab.

Point charts are now coming out. As an example, to stay in the bungalows during value season for 1 WEEK, you will need 841 POINTS! During Premier Season, you will need 1439 POINTS!!

Thus, to stay 1 week during value, you need 841 points @ $160 = $134,560.
The expensive option to stay 1 week during Premier, you need 1439 points @ $165 (non-DVC rate) = $237,435.

Hope that helps and that you see the insanity now! ;)
 

JimboJones123

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Nope, it's $160 per point at the discounted DVC rate and use the numbers posted by flyerjab.



Thus, to stay 1 week during value, you need 841 points @ $160 = $134,560.
The expensive option to stay 1 week during Premier, you need 1439 points @ $165 (non-DVC rate) = $237,435.

Hope that helps and that you see the insanity now! ;)

But we always took 2 week trips to WDW....
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
We just received notification that prices are being set for the Bungalows at The Poly. The lowest seasonal price is around $2100/night, compared to as high as $2900/night during Christmas and the other high seasons.

Points are supposedly going to start during pre-sale at $160/point up until 09Feb2015.

Seems as though WDW is going for an entirely new type of clientele for these units. Definitely will not be staying in these any time soon.

EDIT: This was first seen on @tikiman's Facebook page for the resort.

$2100 a night? Is that in American Dollars? Because I can fly to Hawaii and back first class for that kind of money.

For that kind of money you would expect… Well the kind of private concierge that I demand in my private bungalow stays along a beach.
 

Padraig

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If you are asking what the nightly rate of the bungalows are, then you are not the target demographic. Theses will be booked by those who money is no object. I am sure Disney already knows supply will outstrip demand even at this price point.

As a comparison, today the Atlanta Falcons announced that the premium seats in their new stadium will require a $45,000 seat license (one time fee) plus the cost of season tickets (about $350 per game). These seats represent less than 1% of the total available. While the price seems ridiculous to anyone on this board, my guess is there are corporations and rich ticket holders already lined up to purchase most of the premium tickets.


This is the thing. As rotten/ridiculous/cheap as I think these are, I'm not who they're selling to. They're targeting people who's ability to judge value are completely decoupled from reality.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
FOR AN ACTUAL 1,000 A NIGHT DOLLARS YOU COULD STAY IN A REAL BUNGALOW IN THE REAL BORA BORA WITH A REAL OCEAN UNDERNEATH YOUR BUNGALOW. INSTEAD OF HAVING A FLORIDA SWAMP BENEATH YOUR CABIN THAT IS SITUATED RIGHT NEXT TO A FERRY STATION THAT HONKS EVERY TIME IT ENTERS.
https://secure.fourseasons.com/content/fourseasons/en/booking/choose_room.html
WHO EVER PRICES THIS IS SO HILARIOUSLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY.

Best post on this so far, And those rooms in Bora Bora have a level of service undreamed of by Disney, Methinks DVC has officially 'jumped the shark' as of now.

Agree that these rooms will be booked by those who spend to impress, Unfortunately WDW does not have a level of service which matches 'executive level' at Hilton or Marriott.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
I think Disney has finally crossed the line into pricing insanity here there is nothing in the quality of these rooms which make them worth 2-3K per night, I'd love to see @ParentsOf4 breakeven analysys here.

It's also the "DVC Premium". To help sell DVC points, the rack cash costs are higher than they should be. Helps make buying/using points look like more of a deal than it really should be.

Is it 160 points for just the bungalows? How much is it for the studios? What were the point rates for the Floridian for comparison?

The average nightly points per night costs were 22 for Standard View Studi0, 26 for Lake View Studio, and 147 for the Bungalows. This is dead on with the VGF where the average was 22 points for a Deluxe Studio and 147 for a Grand Villa. Some nights are less, and some are more, but on the whole the average cost is 22. VGF had 194 nights I believe where the cost was below the average.

The 160 number is the cost in USD per point, not the number of points needed. So to buy enough points for one average studio night, 22 points @$160 per would run you $3,520. Now adventure (slow) season midweek would only be 16*$160, or $2,560 or one weekend in premier (high) season is 36*$160 or $5,760. So a 50 year deed, assuming cash paid and ignoring member dues, someone buying new would end up paying $51.20 per adventure midweek night over the life of the deed. Now throwing in dues of $6.02 for those same 16 points, it's $96.32 in dues just for that one night. So $147.52 all in for a single night studio stay in slow season year 1.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
I hate to put the blame all on Disney. If I owned a business, and someone was willing to pay that price everyday, why wouldn't I charge that? It's the same people who pay $315 hour for a Tour Guide...

I agree with Bolt.... while our jaws all hit the floor when we saw these prices... I bet they will be full from some who can and will afford them so I don't blame Disney for pricing them like this.

Totally agree. The issue is our society/culture has shifted more toward "equality" amongst all. Thoughts that "everyone has a right to experience everything at the same level as everyone else" has invaded the daily norm. Getting a trophy or ribbon for simply participating is where it all starts and culminates with "spreading the wealth" and "you didn't do that on your own" so everyone should get a piece of the pie.

There is a line from The Incredibles that applies. "When everyone is super, no one is super". That may be a paraphrase but applies. Is this a ridiculous amount of money. No. It's what Disney thinks they can get for them based on demand.
 

flyerjab

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Original Poster
Totally agree. The issue is our society/culture has shifted more toward "equality" amongst all. Thoughts that "everyone has a right to experience everything at the same level as everyone else" has invaded the daily norm. Getting a trophy or ribbon for simply participating is where it all starts and culminates with "spreading the wealth" and "you didn't do that on your own" so everyone should get a piece of the pie.

There is a line from The Incredibles that applies. "When everyone is super, no one is super". That may be a paraphrase but applies. Is this a ridiculous amount of money. No. It's what Disney thinks they can get for them based on demand.

Totally agree with your post. It's funny too because my family takes expensive WDW vacations every year and even own at the GFV. But we only own enough for a studio. And thinking of spending two grand a night is beyond something I could do. Don't get me wrong though, I really wish I could. :D
 

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