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Predictions! Secret WDC Project — August 22 @ D23

SplashZander

Well-Known Member
More thoughts on Disney's Lighthouse Point being a front-runner for the Secret D23 slot.

As far as I can tell, there is no DCL specific panel at D23. The first of the three new ships will debut in 2021, and more than likely around the first 6 months out of the year if it is to follow the trend of the previous ships. That places the maiden voyage prior to the following D23, making all formal announcements regarding the ship to be during this D23.

For those unfamiliar, Disney Cruise Line announces their itineraries roughly a year and a half ahead of time. In D23 2009, Alaskan cruises were announced. The moral is, if Disney is going to announce a major destination it will be during D23.

The names of the ships are still unknown, however, many people suspect something along the lines of Disney Believe, Disney Wish, and Disney Imagination.

Lighthouse Point, the primary topic of my previous point has not been formally announced. The announcement and details would take quite a long while due to its depth.

The Disney Dream has a roughly 3-week itinerary break in late 2020. The most probable cause is a dry-dock, which would hopefully include the replacement and final demise of The Golden Mickeys, similar to how the phenomenal Beauty and the Beast replaced the horrid Villians Tonight. Back in 2017, Beauty and the Beast was announced during D23.

Quietly, as on May 30th, 2019 Disney Cruise Line Blog (I believe this is the initial source, Orlando Sentinel released an article today regarding the same topic) announced the replacement of Disney Wishes on the Disney Fantasy with Frozen, A Musical Spectacular, which debuted back in November 2016 on the Wonder. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on its quality.

With exception to the Disney Magic, all the ships need further work in regards to theater shows. With the implementation of Tangled: The Musical, it made the Magic's lineup very solid. It also includes Once Upon a Song (Surprisingly great), Twice Charmed (Not an award winner, but ridiculously entertaining), and Disney Dreams (The weakest show, but it is still better than both Disney Believe, and Disney Wishes, both currently on the Fantasy).

Due to the Fantasy getting Frozen, A Musical Spectacular, there is no longer a clear last place. If Beauty and the Beast and Frozen are ignored, the Dream has the worst show lineup, but due to Beauty and the Beast being a truly spectacular show it boosts the lineup immensely. I see the addition of Frozen to the Fantasy as a clear indication of another original show being added to the fleet in the new future, not including the new ships.

A new show announcement will take up even more time during the hour-long DCL specific panel. If you include the new ship, which will probably have one original flagship show, and one original secondary show, even more announcements are included. The original secondary show can easily be cloned to one of the other ships in need of further theatrical love.

As for Lighthouse Point, I can already see it. The announcer's presentation "Countless guests continuously express their love for Castaway Cay. As a result, they have added more and more cruises containing two stops at Castaway Cay. Yet people cannot seem to get their fix for the tropical paradise. Imagine being able to stay overnight at Castaway Cay. I bet you've dreamed about that. Well, the Walt Disney Company is famous for making dreams come true. At Disney's new private island, Lighthouse Point, staying at "The Excessively Long Name of a Hotel" resort you will able to make this wish a reality."

Disney Cruise Line's homeport of Port Canaveral is receiving $46.5 million in upgrades in order to give the new ships a warm welcome.

The Fantasy and Dream cost roughly $2 billion together. Each of the new ships will undoubtedly cost more, and the addition of Lighthouse Point, with a current budget of around $400 million (Likely to change) and the $46.5 million Port Canaveral expansion it will increase the extreme expansion of DCL to around $3.55 billion. In other words, the Walt Disney Company is pumping a new theme park worth of money into Disney Cruise line. If this is not enough to warrant a 1-hour panel, I do not know what is.

To recap, an hour-long D23 segment regarding upcoming DCL expansions would include
  • New show announcement. 1-2
  • New ship name(s).
  • Concept arts, and possibly a virtual tour of the earliest ship to release.
  • New concepts for the Port Canaveral overhaul.
  • New destinations following the launch of the new ships.
  • Which perfectly transitions to Disney's NEW private island, Lighthouse Point!
  • But the fun doesn't stop there! Lighthouse Point will include a resort area for overnight stay.
 

bartholomr4

Well-Known Member
More thoughts on Disney's Lighthouse Point being a front-runner for the Secret D23 slot.

As far as I can tell, there is no DCL specific panel at D23. The first of the three new ships will debut in 2021, and more than likely around the first 6 months out of the year if it is to follow the trend of the previous ships. That places the maiden voyage prior to the following D23, making all formal announcements regarding the ship to be during this D23.

For those unfamiliar, Disney Cruise Line announces their itineraries roughly a year and a half ahead of time. In D23 2009, Alaskan cruises were announced. The moral is, if Disney is going to announce a major destination it will be during D23.

The names of the ships are still unknown, however, many people suspect something along the lines of Disney Believe, Disney Wish, and Disney Imagination.

Lighthouse Point, the primary topic of my previous point has not been formally announced. The announcement and details would take quite a long while due to its depth.

The Disney Dream has a roughly 3-week itinerary break in late 2020. The most probable cause is a dry-dock, which would hopefully include the replacement and final demise of The Golden Mickeys, similar to how the phenomenal Beauty and the Beast replaced the horrid Villians Tonight. Back in 2017, Beauty and the Beast was announced during D23.

Quietly, as on May 30th, 2019 Disney Cruise Line Blog (I believe this is the initial source, Orlando Sentinel released an article today regarding the same topic) announced the replacement of Disney Wishes on the Disney Fantasy with Frozen, A Musical Spectacular, which debuted back in November 2016 on the Wonder. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on its quality.

With exception to the Disney Magic, all the ships need further work in regards to theater shows. With the implementation of Tangled: The Musical, it made the Magic's lineup very solid. It also includes Once Upon a Song (Surprisingly great), Twice Charmed (Not an award winner, but ridiculously entertaining), and Disney Dreams (The weakest show, but it is still better than both Disney Believe, and Disney Wishes, both currently on the Fantasy).

Due to the Fantasy getting Frozen, A Musical Spectacular, there is no longer a clear last place. If Beauty and the Beast and Frozen are ignored, the Dream has the worst show lineup, but due to Beauty and the Beast being a truly spectacular show it boosts the lineup immensely. I see the addition of Frozen to the Fantasy as a clear indication of another original show being added to the fleet in the new future, not including the new ships.

A new show announcement will take up even more time during the hour-long DCL specific panel. If you include the new ship, which will probably have one original flagship show, and one original secondary show, even more announcements are included. The original secondary show can easily be cloned to one of the other ships in need of further theatrical love.

As for Lighthouse Point, I can already see it. The announcer's presentation "Countless guests continuously express their love for Castaway Cay. As a result, they have added more and more cruises containing two stops at Castaway Cay. Yet people cannot seem to get their fix for the tropical paradise. Imagine being able to stay overnight at Castaway Cay. I bet you've dreamed about that. Well, the Walt Disney Company is famous for making dreams come true. At Disney's new private island, Lighthouse Point, staying at "The Excessively Long Name of a Hotel" resort you will able to make this wish a reality."

Disney Cruise Line's homeport of Port Canaveral is receiving $46.5 million in upgrades in order to give the new ships a warm welcome.

The Fantasy and Dream cost roughly $2 billion together. Each of the new ships will undoubtedly cost more, and the addition of Lighthouse Point, with a current budget of around $400 million (Likely to change) and the $46.5 million Port Canaveral expansion it will increase the extreme expansion of DCL to around $3.55 billion. In other words, the Walt Disney Company is pumping a new theme park worth of money into Disney Cruise line. If this is not enough to warrant a 1-hour panel, I do not know what is.

To recap, an hour-long D23 segment regarding upcoming DCL expansions would include
  • New show announcement. 1-2
  • New ship name(s).
  • Concept arts, and possibly a virtual tour of the earliest ship to release.
  • New concepts for the Port Canaveral overhaul.
  • New destinations following the launch of the new ships.
  • Which perfectly transitions to Disney's NEW private island, Lighthouse Point!
  • But the fun doesn't stop there! Lighthouse Point will include a resort area for overnight stay.
Very interesting..... Maybe, and the timing fits as the work would need to start now for the 2021 arrival of the new ships.

FYI, I think DCL has previously been included in the Parks and Resorts panel at prior D23 events
 

SplashZander

Well-Known Member
Very interesting..... Maybe, and the timing fits as the work would need to start now for the 2021 arrival of the new ships.

FYI, I think DCL has previously been included in the Parks and Resorts panel at prior D23 events
I realize that. The Beauty and the Beast show was announced immediately after the now unofficially canceled??? Main Street Theater.

I just feel that lumping DCL with Parks and Resorts this time would not allow for enough time.
 

The Walrus

Active Member
More thoughts on Disney's Lighthouse Point being a front-runner for the Secret D23 slot.

As far as I can tell, there is no DCL specific panel at D23. The first of the three new ships will debut in 2021, and more than likely around the first 6 months out of the year if it is to follow the trend of the previous ships. That places the maiden voyage prior to the following D23, making all formal announcements regarding the ship to be during this D23.

For those unfamiliar, Disney Cruise Line announces their itineraries roughly a year and a half ahead of time. In D23 2009, Alaskan cruises were announced. The moral is, if Disney is going to announce a major destination it will be during D23.

The names of the ships are still unknown, however, many people suspect something along the lines of Disney Believe, Disney Wish, and Disney Imagination.

Lighthouse Point, the primary topic of my previous point has not been formally announced. The announcement and details would take quite a long while due to its depth.

The Disney Dream has a roughly 3-week itinerary break in late 2020. The most probable cause is a dry-dock, which would hopefully include the replacement and final demise of The Golden Mickeys, similar to how the phenomenal Beauty and the Beast replaced the horrid Villians Tonight. Back in 2017, Beauty and the Beast was announced during D23.

Quietly, as on May 30th, 2019 Disney Cruise Line Blog (I believe this is the initial source, Orlando Sentinel released an article today regarding the same topic) announced the replacement of Disney Wishes on the Disney Fantasy with Frozen, A Musical Spectacular, which debuted back in November 2016 on the Wonder. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on its quality.

With exception to the Disney Magic, all the ships need further work in regards to theater shows. With the implementation of Tangled: The Musical, it made the Magic's lineup very solid. It also includes Once Upon a Song (Surprisingly great), Twice Charmed (Not an award winner, but ridiculously entertaining), and Disney Dreams (The weakest show, but it is still better than both Disney Believe, and Disney Wishes, both currently on the Fantasy).

Due to the Fantasy getting Frozen, A Musical Spectacular, there is no longer a clear last place. If Beauty and the Beast and Frozen are ignored, the Dream has the worst show lineup, but due to Beauty and the Beast being a truly spectacular show it boosts the lineup immensely. I see the addition of Frozen to the Fantasy as a clear indication of another original show being added to the fleet in the new future, not including the new ships.

A new show announcement will take up even more time during the hour-long DCL specific panel. If you include the new ship, which will probably have one original flagship show, and one original secondary show, even more announcements are included. The original secondary show can easily be cloned to one of the other ships in need of further theatrical love.

As for Lighthouse Point, I can already see it. The announcer's presentation "Countless guests continuously express their love for Castaway Cay. As a result, they have added more and more cruises containing two stops at Castaway Cay. Yet people cannot seem to get their fix for the tropical paradise. Imagine being able to stay overnight at Castaway Cay. I bet you've dreamed about that. Well, the Walt Disney Company is famous for making dreams come true. At Disney's new private island, Lighthouse Point, staying at "The Excessively Long Name of a Hotel" resort you will able to make this wish a reality."

Disney Cruise Line's homeport of Port Canaveral is receiving $46.5 million in upgrades in order to give the new ships a warm welcome.

The Fantasy and Dream cost roughly $2 billion together. Each of the new ships will undoubtedly cost more, and the addition of Lighthouse Point, with a current budget of around $400 million (Likely to change) and the $46.5 million Port Canaveral expansion it will increase the extreme expansion of DCL to around $3.55 billion. In other words, the Walt Disney Company is pumping a new theme park worth of money into Disney Cruise line. If this is not enough to warrant a 1-hour panel, I do not know what is.

To recap, an hour-long D23 segment regarding upcoming DCL expansions would include
  • New show announcement. 1-2
  • New ship name(s).
  • Concept arts, and possibly a virtual tour of the earliest ship to release.
  • New concepts for the Port Canaveral overhaul.
  • New destinations following the launch of the new ships.
  • Which perfectly transitions to Disney's NEW private island, Lighthouse Point!
  • But the fun doesn't stop there! Lighthouse Point will include a resort area for overnight stay.
It makes so much sense because that’s what they’re doing.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
This means it would also own the 2 Busch parks and Sesame Place...Then lies the IP issues with CTW/Sesame as it was not a part of the Henson-Disney contract..blah blah blah..and so on an so forth...In other words...
Besides Sesame Street, don't forget about the Christmas seasons. Thanks to an agreement with Sea World, Dreamworks Classics (The owner's of the 1964 TV Special), and The Rudolph Company made in November 2015. It might meddle with the theme park rights with the characters from the Rankin-Bass "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer" Christmas special (besides Dollywood, Busch Gardens, and Stone Mountain Park). Despite NBCUniversal acquiring the rights to the namesake special and DreamWorks Classics's parent company Dreamworks Animation in 2016. Universal is allowed to use the characters at their International parks (most notable being Singapore and Japan).
 
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Kev1982

Member
What about a redo of the castle in Orlando?
Since Hong Kong gets a unique castle, maybe they want EVERY park to have his own castle and Magic Kingdom is there most popular castle park so….
 

Monorail_Orange

Well-Known Member
Maybe he meant Anaheim. I laughed out loud on my first walk up Main Street at DL. I know they'll never demo the original DL castle, but man is that disappointing if you're not used to it.
DL's castle is beautiful and charming, and appropriately fits the scale of that park. Leave it be except upkeep and maybe small enhancements. Same for Cinderella Castle, in MK. I'm even OK with the dress-ups they've done on each over the years (even the birthday cake castle at MK was fun) but they need to remain temporary overlays.
 
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