Possible Frontierland expansion

Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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Sage of Time said:
There was also a large economic downturn. But yeah, I see your point. That said, WDW was still raking guests in.
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Right, but you'll notice that some of the biggest expansions in park history happened in the 1990s, when WDAS was firing on all cylinders, for the most part. Even their weakest films (Pocahontas) were still pretty good.
 
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matt78

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If Disney wanted to use a franchise for the Frontierland expansion they could always base it off of the old Mighty Marvel Westerns comics.
The Mighty Marvel Western.
I wouldn't think it would be something that is covered by Universals contract.

If the ride was successful they could even try to make a movie franchise out of it.
 
Bocabear

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but 350 million is about what they will spend on advertising and promotions for the 50th...I doubt this would be used to expand the magic Kingdom...Not after the FLE just happened...And realistically, tomorrowland is the most in need at this point...
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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matt78 said:
If Disney wanted to use a franchise for the Frontierland expansion they could always base it off of the old Mighty Marvel Westerns comics.
The Mighty Marvel Western.
I wouldn't think it would be something that is covered by Universals contract.

If the ride was successful they could even try to make a movie franchise out of it.
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That's... That's not a bad idea, now that I think on it. On the other hand, they can't use the Marvel logo, and the Super Heroes logo they cooked up isn't really applicable, so for all intents and purposes it would be little different than using an original IP.
 
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matt78

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Matt_Black said:
That's... That's not a bad idea, now that I think on it. On the other hand, they can't use the Marvel logo, and the Super Heroes logo they cooked up isn't really applicable, so for all intents and purposes it would be little different than using an original IP.
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That's true. I just thought Disney might have liked that idea since there are already stories that movies could be based off of.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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yellowrocket said:
You have to take Jim Hill with a grain of salt...
(but then salt will make certain types of slugs melt).
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Not really in this case. It's just a story about a proposed attraction. It is true that the attraction was proposed--they have concept drawings included. Whether or not they are building that ride here remains to be seen. It's a very old Jim Hill story.
 
Phineas

Phineas

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Maybe they can use one of the concepts from Disney's America, like that Industrial Revolution coaster? Far-fetched, I know.
 
Jimmy Thick

Jimmy Thick

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Where would they put another e-ticket? Would they tear something down? Fill in the Rivers of America? Expand past Splash and Big Thunder? 350 million just don't seem like enough if demolition is involved.

Jimmy Thick- MK does need more though...
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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Jimmy Thick said:
Where would they put another e-ticket? Would they tear something down? Fill in the Rivers of America? Expand past Splash and Big Thunder? 350 million just don't seem like enough if demolition is involved.

Jimmy Thick- MK does need more though...
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Not every E-Ticket has to cost as much as Radiator Springs Racers. $350m is still enough for a nice E.

It's astonishing how quickly we went from rides like Mission:SPACE or Everest costing $100m to 2015 budgets where Mermaid almost cost $100m. What the hell, WDI? My milk prices have gone up, but not THAT much.
 
Tim Lohr

Tim Lohr

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The problem with expanding Frontierland is getting people to the new expanded area... but over in Tokyo Disneyland they seem to have come up with a great plan for freeing up space
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By moving Tokyo's "it's a small world" building, they not only add the pretty building facade that all the other parks have (...well? all the other parks except the world famous Magic Kingdom that is) but they can also use their big new show building to block the public's view of Space Mountain from inside their soon to be expanded Fantasyland, while at the same time freeing up space for some new Alice in Wonderland stuff where their "small world" currently sits

Now let's just say... "hypothetically" you applied the same logic to the world famous Magic Kingdom, and relocated the "small world" building to the same location it's going to be in Tokyo. You could then fill in the space between it and the Mad Tea Party with some new Alice in Wonderland stuff, and then all you would need to do is find a cheap way to re-theme Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe to some a little more "Fantasyland-esque" ...hmm, what could they possibly do with that big building... with transparent walls, and hexagonal rooms... hey! maybe something like this might work... "hypothetically"
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So now we would have a great strategy for expanding not only Frontierland, but Fantasyland and Tomorrowland as well
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now I know they only release the budgets in "One Year Increments" but they tend to plan this stuff out in "More Than One Year Increments" ...they painted the Yankee Trader "ghostly blue" almost a whole year before turning into a Haunted Mansion gift shop, they moved Tinker Bell out of The Adventureland over a year before they stared turning it back into a restaurant, and just last year they enclosed the outdoor section of Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe ...maybe they just felt they need more "nice, cold, air conditioned" space inside that already popular restaurant ...well the cold never bothered me anyway
 

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