DisneyDellsDude
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It's sad to see a society that has become so lawsuit heavy.
I applaud whomever tried to run with this idea and got as far as they did.
I applaud whomever tried to run with this idea and got as far as they did.
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Pooh Queue Rumor: Tigger Bounce Spot to be removed
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ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
...and wasted a good deal of money.
Disney Rocks
Active Member
Will they just board it up forever or tear this area down? I think they should try to save it though, it was a good idea.
DocMcHulk
Well-Known Member
WHo thought small children bouncing around was a smart idea?
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
hopefully, replace it with something else.
scottnj1966
Well-Known Member
I could see anyone getting hurt on those bouncy things.
I have seen adults trip over benches and curbs at Disney, everyday life stuff.
Why they would think no one would get hurt by something that could easily trip you.
No I am sure that whole area is the squishly soft floor but if you fall a certain way it hurts no matter what.
I wondered why that area was never used. I thought that was strange. Now I know. Thanks everyone.
Scott
I have seen adults trip over benches and curbs at Disney, everyday life stuff.
Why they would think no one would get hurt by something that could easily trip you.
No I am sure that whole area is the squishly soft floor but if you fall a certain way it hurts no matter what.
I wondered why that area was never used. I thought that was strange. Now I know. Thanks everyone.
Scott
Joshua&CalebDad
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All these negative posts concerning the tigger bounce is exactly why schools are no longer allowing children to play kickball, dodgeball and tag. We are raising our children to be a bunch of whimps that won't know what to do when they trip and scrape their knee. As far as I'm concerned Disney should open up that part of the queu and my 18 month old and four year old sons will be the first ones to go in and pretend to be tigger on the tigger bounce. The rest of you who have an issue can stand on the outside and have your children watch as my children have a good time. If my boys fall and get hurt then I will pick them up tell them its okay and encourage them to play on. We have become so afraid of evrything that we don't know how to have fun anymore. Sorry I don't mean to be disrespectful but come on people, if I was four I would love to have the chance to jump on those things. :animwink:
TalkingHead
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And some parent will look to take advantage of Disney as soon as their kid is injured by the things.
Disney has to be smart about this sort of thing. They trumpet safety as their overriding concern and then install these bounce pads that are obviously not.
And as for your logic that safety = wimpiness...forget it, why bother?
Disney Rocks
Active Member
I think you have a point, but Disney knows that people will sue over anything and they dont want to cause a fuss.
Joshua&CalebDad
Well-Known Member
I never stated that safety = wimpiness. You took it to that extreme, not me. My point is that we can't walk around wrapped in bubble wrap all of our lives. I don't want my kids to get hurt but I also want them to know that if you get knocked down, you pick yourself up, dust yourself off and keep on playing.
mitchk
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I agree with you :wave: Maybe they could just make it a "Bounce at your own risk" so, if kids wanna bounce around they can, if they get hurt :shrug: It's not Disney's problem. :wave:
mitchk
Well-Known Member
I also agree with you too :wave: ,but I kind of feel like, it's already been built, so instead of taking it down, and wasting even more money ............ "Bounce at your own risk"
BTW, Amber Samdahl :hammer:
TP2000
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Oh... my... Gawd. What were they thinking?!?
I agree that Amber Samdahl, if she is the lead designer here as she appears to be in the video, needs to polish up her resume'. Some really, really poor decision making skills were put on display here. And to think how much money was wasted on this? It makes you shudder. Is there no system of checks and balances at WDW where operations management can put their foot down and say no to a WDI idea?
For the record, I can lament the sleezeball lawyers and the sleezeball folks who employ them after their precious angel trips and falls in a bouncy queue at Disney World. But you have to realize that's the reality we live in now. You can't pretend the modern world stops at the edge of the Pooh queue.
My other thought watching that video was... How many weeks will all of those effects work for? It's been almost 60 days, do the honking radishes still work? Are the gophers still popping up? Do the drums still look like watermelons? I can easily imagine that things are broken or becoming worn and not the "fresh and polished" queue the Imagineers were gloating about in the video. And if the queue is showing signs of wear and breakage at the 60 day mark, what does it look like at the 6 month mark? A year from now? Three years from now?
Who on earth approved spending the money on this???
Is this the "Next Gen" queue experience stuff we've been hearing about? If so, this just sounds like an idea doomed to failure and broken equipment, and a monumental waste of money. I'm utterly amazed here.
DisneyDellsDude
New Member
Destroying it will cost the extra money.
DisneyDellsDude
New Member
There's too much! If WDI really had full reign, the parks would be immensely better in my opinion!
SeaCastle
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Oh... my... Gawd. What were they thinking?!?
I agree that Amber Samdahl, if she is the lead designer here as she appears to be in the video, needs to polish up her resume'. Some really, really poor decision making skills were put on display here. And to think how much money was wasted on this? It makes you shudder. Is there no system of checks and balances at WDW where operations management can put their foot down and say no to a WDI idea?
For the record, I can lament the sleezeball lawyers and the sleezeball folks who employ them after their precious angel trips and falls in a bouncy queue at Disney World. But you have to realize that's the reality we live in now. You can't pretend the modern world stops at the edge of the Pooh queue.
My other thought watching that video was... How many weeks will all of those effects work for? It's been almost 60 days, do the honking radishes still work? Are the gophers still popping up? Do the drums still look like watermelons? I can easily imagine that things are broken or becoming worn and not the "fresh and polished" queue the Imagineers were gloating about in the video. And if the queue is showing signs of wear and breakage at the 60 day mark, what does it look like at the 6 month mark? A year from now? Three years from now?
Who on earth approved spending the money on this???
Is this the "Next Gen" queue experience stuff we've been hearing about? If so, this just sounds like an idea doomed to failure and broken equipment, and a monumental waste of money. I'm utterly amazed here.
I can't say I agree with any of this. The editions seem to entertain kids (which was its purpose) and given good maintenance, all of the elements would work properly. I don't understand how this was such a monumental waste of money when it's performing as designed, save for the poor maintenance (which isn't WDI's responsibility) or the bouncy place.
Rob562
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I wouldn't say that WDI is blameless if some aspects of the new queue break easily after being played with by rambunctious children. Young kids destroying things is a well-known fact of life in theme parks. You can't just design something to be touched/squeezed/pulled/interacted-with and not look into the future as to what the day-to-day usage will do to them.
Sure, if we were talking about Disney first starting out in the 50's you could cut some slack because they learned a lot on-the-fly. But kids destroying things should be thougth of and planned for.
A great designer at WDI would be able to find the middle ground between great artistry and real-life reliability/wear-and-tear.
-Rob
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
Because the posters here are outside of its target demographic. I've noticed a lot of people on these boards take issue with park additions that aren't aimed at them or focus specifically on children. If they can't personally enjoy it then it's deemed a waste.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
And I'm sure that sign would work if it was in every language possible of the guests who visit WDW
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Bingo! You just nailed it on the head.
The Pooh queue as designed, even the Tigger bouncing-lawyer trampolines, is a brilliant and lovely design. For Tokyo Disneyland.
In America, where people have less respect for property and believe their precious-precious angel children can do no wrong no matter the situation, this queue would seem to have a life expectancy of about six months.
But.... because it's in WDW, where maintenance standards are the lowest of the American properties (Back-to-back WDW and Disneyland trips in recent years confirms this, especially at the big animatronic E Ticket attractions. Ask Martin if you wan't a more impartial opinion, since I'm naturally suspect as a Californian), this queue has an even lower life expectancy of about four months.
The new Pooh queue is a good sign, because it seems to show WDI run amok with wonderfully creative queue ideas. But it's also a huge warning flag, because it's apparent that they either asked for no input from the people who actually staff and operate the park, or worse, WDI completely ignored everything the operations folks told them from their 40 years of park operating experience.
Most of the Imagineers in that video linked here look fresh out of college. It's doubtful you'd put a top Imagineer on a queue remodel anyway, but these folks look like they need some real-world life experience. Plus about two weeks of working in the theme park and watching how people interact with it and treat it. Five years of theme park operations experience is what's really needed here before becoming an Imagineer, but two weeks would be a good place to start.
I give this queue four months. Let's chat again in April. :lol: