Poll: For those who curbed visits or stopped visiting Disney Parks, what are your top reasons?

[Master Yoda]

I have this crazy notion that if the company is being run well, the profits will increase. Crazy talk, I know!! Marie

Run well is a mater of perspective. What is good for the stock price is not always good for the consumer. To quote a line from The Handmaiden's Tale “Better never means better for everyone... It always means worse, for some.”

 

[StarshipDisney]

I only picked one: Too many cuts to perks and overall quality.

I must admit they are starting to get better...starting that is. The parking fees I paid in 2022 are gone. Advance planning for rides again will be a good upgrade although it needs to be more than 7 days (why, because I want to know if I can have a good trip BEFORE I make final payment.) The dining plan is back but not as good as it was. They need to bring back package delivery to your resort. They need to bring back more of the park tours they had before COVID.

Still not planning a trip back yet though. The need to entice me more than they have so far. Hello Epic Universe and Portofino Bay hotel in 2025.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Run well is a mater of perspective. What is good for the stock price is not always good for the consumer. To quote a line from The Handmaiden's Tale “Better never means better for everyone... It always means worse, for some.”

Sure, but wouldn't screwing over the customer eventually mean a major loss to stock holders? That would eventually result in a decline in stock prices causing stock holders to abandon ship? With that abandonment by holders and the loss of customers mean the end to the business?

 

[monothingie]

Run well is a mater of perspective. What is good for the stock price is not always good for the consumer. To quote a line from The Handmaiden's Tale “Better never means better for everyone... It always means worse, for some.”

Fortunately, current leadership is both tanking the stock and flipping off the consumer at the same time.

Win-Win?

 

[GigglesMcSnort]

Sure, but wouldn't screwing over the customer eventually mean a major loss to stock holders? That would eventually result in a decline in stock prices causing stock holders to abandon ship? With that abandonment by holders and the loss of customers mean the end to the business?

Only if enough customers eventually stop giving Disney money to be screwed over.

 

[monothingie]

Sure, but wouldn't screwing over the customer eventually mean a major loss to stock holders? That would eventually result in a decline in stock prices causing stock holders to abandon ship? With that abandonment by holders and the loss of customers mean the end to the business.

Investor priorities continue to be with DTC. That is where the substantial focus of the company is and what really gets all the attention of investors. DTC priorities changed from subscriber count to extracting max ARPU primarily via advertising dollars and subscription costs.

The Parks and Experiences segment are the ugly workhorses that inject cash into the company. Investors really don't care much about what happens at WDW or DCL.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Only if enough customers eventually stop giving Disney money to be screwed over.

If the attendance reports are true, that has started.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Investor priorities continue to be with DTC. That is where the substantial focus of the company is and what really gets all the attention of investors. DTC priorities changed from subscriber count to extracting max ARPU primarily via advertising dollars and subscription costs.

The Parks and Experiences segment are the ugly workhorses that inject cash into the company. Investors really don't care much about what happens at WDW or DCL.

I would think that since Disney stock prices are falling I think they are indeed paying attention to the workhorses and reacting to them. It hasn't been a secret that the parks are the life blood of Disney over the past few years.

 

[StarshipDisney]

If the attendance reports are true, that has started.

I can only hope that is true.

 

[graphite1326]

If I am not mistaken per Florida building code, water features follow the same rules as pools, splash parks etc.

If Journey of Water is harmful to the environment and should be removed then you will also want to add every swimming pool on property, every decorative fountain, and every water attraction up to and including PoTC, Small World, Three Cablinaro's, etc. to that list.

Oh you are right but that's the way it is. Kinda like all these people up in arms about what the use of oil does to our environment especially when spilled but say nothing about the millions of miles of roads made from asphalt (as it seeps into the ground).

 

[NickMaio]

I don't totally fault them for that. It's been said many times that most of those in management and higher don't understand the parks and why people go to them.

Snapes voice......... obviously......

 

[John park hopper]

Oh you are right but that's the way it is. Kinda like all these people up in arms about what the use of oil does to our environment especially when spilled but say nothing about the millions of miles of roads made from asphalt (as it seeps into the ground).

There is nothing since the dawn of man that man has not affected the environment in negative way. As the human population continues to grow the environment will continue to degrade.

 

[Master Yoda]

There is nothing since the dawn of man that man has not affected the environment in negative way. As the human population continues to grow the environment will continue to degrade.

It is not that black and white. While everything we and every other force of nature has an effect there are some that can be mitigated where others will cause what we perceive as harm. In the simplest terms, it is the dose that creates the poison.

 

[MerriwetherAdamPleasure]

WDW used to be my favorite place on earth to visit. We used to go about 1 time for every year to year and a half, and I've been going for over 40 years. Last two visits the costs were horrendous. 4 combos for lunch or dinner at Cosmic Ray's cost about 70 dollars, and for cafeteria food. Value resorts are no longer a value. Last trip I stayed in a timeshare resort, paid right at 100 dollars a night, drove myself, and we had such a nice time. Didn't have to be squeezed into buses with other sweaty humans after walking miles during the day, had the ability to cook breakfast for ourselves, and we were near Kissimmee, so I could go to a chain steakhouse nearby for steaks and ample portions for 1/3 the cost of the same on property. We did go to Ohana, and while it cost 300 dollars for dinner for 4, we still enjoyed the experience. (Nostalgia from when my kids were young).

When it comes to offerings for the cost, compared to Eisner 's era, this iteration of Disney Parks is a rip off. Parks are dirty, all the perks are gone, and lightning lanes are a caste system meant to separate us more and more from our money. Burned out lights, poorly operating attractions, lines too long, over selling lightning lanes, and waiting an hour and a.half for Pirates due to the lightning lane nonsense.

Ultimately, I'm done until Iger is gone. I feel he's driving the Disney Company into the toilet, and if the company ends up sold, our once loved destination's day may be numbered.

WDW has become Las Vegas...overpriced, dirty, and meant to empty your pockets down to the lint. I long for the days of WDW TIps for today, Stacy, E ride nights, true extra magic hours, reasonably priced parties and restaurants. It makes me very sad to have written the things I did, but after years of loyalty and dedication to the brand, Iger is determined to show those of us not wealthy that he doesn't give a darn about us or our business. He wants WDW to be a playground for the wealthy. (Sorry for the rambling, but that was kind of cathartic)

 

[Chi84]

WDW used to be my favorite place on earth to visit. We used to go about 1 time for every year to year and a half, and I've been going for over 40 years. Last two visits the costs were horrendous. 4 combos for lunch or dinner at Cosmic Ray's cost about 70 dollars, and for cafeteria food. Value resorts are no longer a value. Last trip I stayed in a timeshare resort, paid right at 100 dollars a night, drove myself, and we had such a nice time. Didn't have to be squeezed into buses with other sweaty humans after walking miles during the day, had the ability to cook breakfast for ourselves, and we were near Kissimmee, so I could go to a chain steakhouse nearby for steaks and ample portions for 1/3 the cost of the same on property. We did go to Ohana, and while it cost 300 dollars for dinner for 4, we still enjoyed the experience. (Nostalgia from when my kids were young).

When it comes to offerings for the cost, compared to Eisner 's era, this iteration of Disney Parks is a rip off. Parks are dirty, all the perks are gone, and lightning lanes are a caste system meant to separate us more and more from our money. Burned out lights, poorly operating attractions, lines too long, over selling lightning lanes, and waiting an hour and a.half for Pirates due to the lightning lane nonsense.

Ultimately, I'm done until Iger is gone. I feel he's driving the Disney Company into the toilet, and if the company ends up sold, our once loved destination's day may be numbered.

WDW has become Las Vegas...overpriced, dirty, and meant to empty your pockets down to the lint. I long for the days of WDW TIps for today, Stacy, E ride nights, true extra magic hours, reasonably priced parties and restaurants. It makes me very sad to have written the things I did, but after years of loyalty and dedication to the brand, Iger is determined to show those of us not wealthy that he doesn't give a darn about us or our business. He wants WDW to be a playground for the wealthy. (Sorry for the rambling, but that was kind of cathartic)

That sounds awful! I can honestly say we’ve never had that kind of experience. I can understand if you never return.

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

If the attendance reports are true, that has started.

We still go, and our issue has ALWAYS been crowds! Crowds/lines weren't even a choice on the Poll!!

Been a minute....how are you and your peeps?

I can only hope that is true.

Crazy CROWDS/LINES isn't even on the Poll.......maybe it is lightening up now, but INSANE CROWDS for the past few years is what really hurt our experience......all while the cuts listed on this trail were happening....shame on Disney? Guest play any role in this?

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

WDW used to be my favorite place on earth to visit. We used to go about 1 time for every year to year and a half, and I've been going for over 40 years. Last two visits the costs were horrendous. 4 combos for lunch or dinner at Cosmic Ray's cost about 70 dollars, and for cafeteria food. Value resorts are no longer a value. Last trip I stayed in a timeshare resort, paid right at 100 dollars a night, drove myself, and we had such a nice time. Didn't have to be squeezed into buses with other sweaty humans after walking miles during the day, had the ability to cook breakfast for ourselves, and we were near Kissimmee, so I could go to a chain steakhouse nearby for steaks and ample portions for 1/3 the cost of the same on property. We did go to Ohana, and while it cost 300 dollars for dinner for 4, we still enjoyed the experience. (Nostalgia from when my kids were young).

When it comes to offerings for the cost, compared to Eisner 's era, this iteration of Disney Parks is a rip off. Parks are dirty, all the perks are gone, and lightning lanes are a caste system meant to separate us more and more from our money. Burned out lights, poorly operating attractions, lines too long, over selling lightning lanes, and waiting an hour and a.half for Pirates due to the lightning lane nonsense.

Ultimately, I'm done until Iger is gone. I feel he's driving the Disney Company into the toilet, and if the company ends up sold, our once loved destination's day may be numbered.

WDW has become Las Vegas...overpriced, dirty, and meant to empty your pockets down to the lint. I long for the days of WDW TIps for today, Stacy, E ride nights, true extra magic hours, reasonably priced parties and restaurants. It makes me very sad to have written the things I did, but after years of loyalty and dedication to the brand, Iger is determined to show those of us not wealthy that he doesn't give a darn about us or our business. He wants WDW to be a playground for the wealthy. (Sorry for the rambling, but that was kind of cathartic)

Where can you get these 1/3 cost meals? The other side of I4 in Disney Springs is within pennies of Disney prices....192?536?

Lines too long were the issue for sure

 

[bwr827]

WDW has become Las Vegas...overpriced, dirty, and meant to empty your pockets down to the lint.

Overpriced for sure, but dirty?

My family hasn’t visited since 2023, but the high level of cleanliness was remarkable to us. The place felt spotless.

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

As we ponder Disney and the cost cutting....money grabbing...as the reason the crowds have dwindled.....we watch the Today show and they have a featured story on Fast Food price cuts...from $5 combo meals to $10 sit down trio deals with desserts...from the arches to the Aussies.....that fine cafeteria(as many on this forum call it) food is all on sale now

 

[Dad 2 M & M]

Overpriced for sure, but dirty?

My family hasn’t visited since 2023, but the high level of cleanliness was remarkable to us. The place felt spotless.

Heard that......overplayed the hand a bit