Rumor Pixar's Coco coming to the Mexico Pavilion

xdan0920

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Just because it was about Mexican culture that doesn't automatically mean the movie would be a hit there. It still has to be a good movie. It sounds like it is.

Not sure that's actually true. How many garbage animated movies make a minting here? A lot.

Besides, a major animated movie based on Mexican culture was going to hit big there, it's not like these things ever exist. The simple novelty of it, was going to insure it landed big in Mexico. Which is why Disney elected to release there first, and alone.
 

Kman101

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Not sure that's actually true. How many garbage animated movies make a minting here? A lot.

Besides, a major animated movie based on Mexican culture was going to hit big there, it's not like these things ever exist. The simple novelty of it, was going to insure it landed big in Mexico. Which is why Disney elected to release there first, and alone.

OK. I don't entirely agree but I get your points.

ETA: I could be wrong but I take your posts to mean you aren't very excited for the movie, so you're suggesting the movie was only a hit in Mexico because it featured Mexican culture, almost dismissing it because it was "always going to do well there" which I don't entirely agree with.

I still don't know how well it will do here. I figured Good Dinosaur would bomb and it did. Disney movies are easy to gauge. I can't quite gauge this one. It does surprise me many aren't interested in it on here. Just wondering why?
 
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disneygeek90

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Still very excited for this movie. Was able to see the nice setup it has in Disneyland this past weekend and also watched the preview in the Bugs Life theater. I've been seeing merch for the movie build up over the past few weeks at WDW too. My TV consumption these days is pretty much Hulu so I don't have much comment on the tv commercials, but I think this will do fine.
 

ChrisM

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Haven't seen any tracking numbers yet, but I'm concerned there will be a few things working against Coco:

- The name doesn't really resonate with the story in any way for domestic audiences.
- The "dead" theme seems completely wrong for the holiday season.
- A good number of folks I've spoken to thought it was a "Book of Life" sequel.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 

Ripken10

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Haven't seen any tracking numbers yet, but I'm concerned there will be a few things working against Coco:

- The name doesn't really resonate with the story in any way for domestic audiences.
- The "dead" theme seems completely wrong for the holiday season.
- A good number of folks I've spoken to thought it was a "Book of Life" sequel.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Two different channels (pretty sure it was two different channels) last night had previews for Coco in primetime. I have seen it getting ramped up over the last week. This movie is getting more fanfare then some of you care to admit, relying on personal anecdotes. While some will say that, others, like myself, will say the opposite, where people I know are excited to see it.
 

Sir_Cliff

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Not sure that's actually true. How many garbage animated movies make a minting here? A lot.

Besides, a major animated movie based on Mexican culture was going to hit big there, it's not like these things ever exist. The simple novelty of it, was going to insure it landed big in Mexico. Which is why Disney elected to release there first, and alone.
Eh, this really could have gone either way. A big American studio making an animated film about Mexican traditions at a time when relations between the two countries are at rock bottom? They easily could have faced a huge backlash if they got it wrong. Disney almost did face a backlash when they very unwisely tried to trademark Día de los Muertos a few years back before changing the film's title to Coco amid protests. I saw ads for it in Mexico City stating "Para México con Amor" (To Mexico with Love), and it is quite remarkable that this seems to be exactly how it has been received: as a loving tribute to Mexican culture. It's really the best thing for US-Mexican relations in a while!

Personally, I loved it. To me, it is the most "Disney" feeling of the Pixar movies in terms of characters and story. This means it's not quite as innovative as, say, Inside Out (which I loved) or Wall-E (which I didn't love), but is has a lot of heart and warmth and works as a really nice celebration of family. Depending on the reviews and reception, I could see that element really helping the film to catch on over the holiday season.
 

Lets Respect

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Not sure this has any impact, it was always going to be a hit in Mexico.

Genuinely curious to see how it performs stateside. Anecdotally, I don't know anyone who is interested in seeing it, including myself. The visuals look stunning, but what I can glean of the story line leaves me very apathetic towards the film. Maybe I'll catch it on STARZ someday, but no chance I am dropping $50+ to see it in a theater.

I tried googling to see how it is tracking, but couldn't find any results. Anyone have any links?

We are probably not going to see it. Decided I don't want to see a film about death with my kids right now, especially my youngest.

Cost comes into it also, whenever we all go see something, it has to be something we are excited about because of the cost. We can watch a new-to-us movie at home for $4 and pretend we're at the theatre.

I'm very curious to see how Coco does here as well.
 

Sped2424

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Not sure that's actually true. How many garbage animated movies make a minting here? A lot.

Besides, a major animated movie based on Mexican culture was going to hit big there, it's not like these things ever exist. The simple novelty of it, was going to insure it landed big in Mexico. Which is why Disney elected to release there first, and alone.
The book of life a film set in mexico about day of the dead did not receive or elicit the same response that Coco is getting in mexico. Simply put the praise being sung from there is a huge indicator on the quality of the film. It's not just that it was about mexican culture that is getting the film such praise. As for why disney released it there first there are several factors. The most important one being that day of the dead falls between oct31st and november second so having the film come out there anytime after would seem well insensitive at best.
 
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Sped2424

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Haven't seen any tracking numbers yet, but I'm concerned there will be a few things working against Coco:

- The name doesn't really resonate with the story in any way for domestic audiences.
- The "dead" theme seems completely wrong for the holiday season.
- A good number of folks I've spoken to thought it was a "Book of Life" sequel.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Im sorry how does Frozen, Brave, or Tangled have any sort of resonating feel when it comes to the title lol If you watch Coco you will understand why the film is called Coco. As for the "dead" theme" there is no such thing in this film. It's not dead, it's about a boy finding out about why family ties and history are important on Dia de los muertos.

The film is coming out on thanksgiving because that's when animated films tend to do best here in the states. And if a film about family ties and the importance of which coming out during thanksgiving weekend is out of place then I am not sure what kind of film you would want instead? lol As for the Book of life comment most people think PIxar is the main studio for everything animated so no sweat off my back.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
The book of life a film set in mexico about day of the dead did not receive or elicit the same response that Coco is getting in mexico. Simply put the praise being sung from their is a huge indicator on the quality of the film. It's not just that it was about mexican culture that is getting the film such praise. As for why disney released it there first there are several factors. The most important one being that day of the dead falls between oct31st and november second so having the film come out there anytime after would seem well insensitive at best.
After the stunt you pulled in the Lion King thread you’ll understand if I just ignore you from here out I’m sure.
 

DisneyFan18

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Not sure that's actually true. How many garbage animated movies make a minting here? A lot.

Besides, a major animated movie based on Mexican culture was going to hit big there, it's not like these things ever exist. The simple novelty of it, was going to insure it landed big in Mexico. Which is why Disney elected to release there first, and alone.
While I do agree that a bad movie could be successful, that’s not the case for Coco. I do agree that it might not be Pixar’s most original work it’s so beautifully crafted and the way the story develops that it makes it a good movie, I could be biased based on the fact that it is based on my culture, and I’m incredibly proud of the way it is shown, we’re more than what tends to be shown in media. Believe when I say you should give it a chance, even when using the Pixar formula, I feel like it stands on its own, based on the way it represents te culture and how music is incorporated in the movie.

Also I have to disagree with your second comment, believe me, it didn’t do well for the “novelty” or because we as Mexicans were starving for a big company like Pixar to represent us, actually a lot of Mexicans were either against it or not interested on it at first. The reason why it have done so well in the Mexican Boxoffice and have gained the heart of Mexico is because it feautures a beautiful story that does justice to our culture and has a beautiful message about the importance of family, it has done so well because it is what a Pixar Movie should be, and good Pixar movies usually do well in our boxoffice...
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Not sure that's actually true. How many garbage animated movies make a minting here? A lot.

Besides, a major animated movie based on Mexican culture was going to hit big there, it's not like these things ever exist. The simple novelty of it, was going to insure it landed big in Mexico. Which is why Disney elected to release there first, and alone.

I agree it is a weird thing..And one example I have to go with on this......Is Hanna Barbera's Top Cat..
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Now, you may ask why? Certainly of course he wasn't a big character of the Hanna-Barbera family only having 1 season of 30 episodes and occasionally popping up doing cameos in other shows...But, to Mexico....He's big.....I Mean BIG...How Big?
He had two animated films in 3 years apart from each other in Classic 2d & a CG Origin Film..And yes there are English Dubs of these films swimming around...
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Another one comes to mind is Why you don't See or Hardly hear about anything about Universal Studios Main Mascot Woody Woopecker as he's not as popular.......Not to other Countries he's not....As they decided to do a....*Sigh* Live action Yogi Bear route (Oddly directed by the same director) To make a Live action/Animated hybrid Woody Woodpecker Movie....


Ooooh it doesn't end there as Warner Bros also have plans to make........Wait for it....A Speedy Gonzales movie...
http://deadline.com/2016/04/speedy-gonzales-animated-movie-eugenio-derbez-warner-bros-1201730245/
 

seabreezept813

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Im sorry how does Frozen, Brave, or Tangled have any sort of resonating feel when it comes to the title lol If you watch Coco you will understand why the film is called Coco. As for the "dead" theme" there is no such thing in this film. It's not dead, it's about a boy finding out about why family ties and history are important on Dia de los muertos.

The film is coming out on thanksgiving because that's when animated films tend to do best here in the states. And if a film about family ties and the importance of which coming out during thanksgiving weekend is out of place then I am not sure what kind of film you would want instead? lol As for the Book of life comment most people think PIxar is the main studio for everything animated so no sweat off my back.
I hate that films are always released on thanksgiving.. there have been no good family movies out in months and once the holidays hit our weekends are monopolized. Too bad they can’t release them a few weeks early.
 

raymusiccity

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We are probably not going to see it. Decided I don't want to see a film about death with my kids right now, especially my youngest.

Cost comes into it also, whenever we all go see something, it has to be something we are excited about because of the cost. We can watch a new-to-us movie at home for $4 and pretend we're at the theatre.

I'm very curious to see how Coco does here as well.

I'm just as curious. It's similar to trying to figure out why so many people will pay to see the musical, 'Cats' ! ;)
 

disneygeek90

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We are probably not going to see it. Decided I don't want to see a film about death with my kids right now, especially my youngest.

Cost comes into it also, whenever we all go see something, it has to be something we are excited about because of the cost. We can watch a new-to-us movie at home for $4 and pretend we're at the theatre.

I'm very curious to see how Coco does here as well.
I sure hope they've also never seen Up, Nemo, Lion King, Princess and the Frog or Cinderella, too. Even though there's "skeletons and dead," it looks to be much more uplifting and a celebration of those who have lived before us, than a somber movie coping and overcoming death of a loved one.
 

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