JohnyKaz2078
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That's very useful. Thanks!
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Rumor Pixar's Coco coming to the Mexico Pavilion
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Bocabear
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Holy Double negative! So you would say that it does have potential to sell products and merchandise? I was in my local music store and saw a line of Coco branded real guitars for sale...thought that was kind of a neat idea...
Coco is probably the best fir of any IP for the Mexico pavilion....you can literally see how well it would work within the pavilion...and has everything to do with Mexican culture...
Ratatuoille is also a perfect fit...
Wish I could say the same about FEA.... That was an opportunity to get it done in a less expensive way....
Sirwalterraleigh
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Avatar was a bit of a reach that turned out well. Rat is s clone from where they speak French. Lots of nuance
JohnyKaz2078
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Sorry some mispelling there
What I wanted to say is: Coco won't probably become a big merchandise seller or leave a significant mark in pop culture but it's an excellent movie (IMO) and has a lot of potential for a ride and the Mexican Pavilion is a good place to build it. I prefer Mary Poppins as opposed to Coco right now (something new is always good) but I wouldn't say no to a revamp of GFT for the 40th anniversary of Epcot. Ratatouille is another great ride (I have been to WDS).
FEA doesn't deserve so much negative attitude. It's a good dark ride that has found a way to inject a huge IP into a park whilst blending with the pavilion. It makes as much sense as Ratatouille in France, Nemo in the Seas and Pandora in DAK. The original Maelstrom was a decent dark ride too but had a disjointed story, little appeal to families and wasn't popular in its last years of operation (UoE kind of thing).
I know Pandora is successful despite Avatar not being what I said above. I don't really understand what you're trying to say about Ratatouille though.
smile
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so, the coco in mexico talk won't die...
good. it's a great idea and those don't die
i'll always classify this as such until something more appropriate for the pavilion were to come along, which i don't foresee anytime soon.
but, as has been said, no immediate frozen-y princess push and far bigger fish to fry - thank goodness there's an attraction there already.
good. it's a great idea and those don't die
i'll always classify this as such until something more appropriate for the pavilion were to come along, which i don't foresee anytime soon.
but, as has been said, no immediate frozen-y princess push and far bigger fish to fry - thank goodness there's an attraction there already.
As I was saying I hope this overlay happens! Couldn't be more perfect for the pavilion!
Thank you for getting back on topic!
SteamboatJoe
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It's really bizarre how the IP overlay which not only makes sense but is culturally appropriate is having so much trouble being implemented, meanwhile, over in Norway....
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Sirwalterraleigh
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It just goes back to a fundamental truth: they don’t WANT to spend money on rides for us. It’s done out of necessity when there are no other options.
Follow the money.
Oh, way to skew the average with those last two entries!
Spash007
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I wonder how much of this decision hinges on what they are doing at WoL? Epcot struggles to make the case that it is meant for families with younger children, and I feel that would be the angle that the extra investment needed to re-route the queue would be worth it. Ratatouille will obviously help on that front, but if something goes into WoL that is meant for families, and they put in a Mary Poppins UK ride, what really would be the net benefit of a 4th attraction aimed towards families?
To really vary the crowds, the investment in WoL would seem to be more appropriate. Kids go there while adults can rider switch at GoTG, TT and MS. It's more than just the attraction that's the draw, it's the big picture of planning out the day and making that side seem more full. Otherwise, you have this side of FW that is more geared towards adults, that families with young kids may just skip entirely (and then lessen their time in Epcot accordingly). With Mexico being fairly close, the argument could be made that people could go there and FEA, but WoL seems to be the easier solution, especially if it becomes an actual pavilion again.
To really vary the crowds, the investment in WoL would seem to be more appropriate. Kids go there while adults can rider switch at GoTG, TT and MS. It's more than just the attraction that's the draw, it's the big picture of planning out the day and making that side seem more full. Otherwise, you have this side of FW that is more geared towards adults, that families with young kids may just skip entirely (and then lessen their time in Epcot accordingly). With Mexico being fairly close, the argument could be made that people could go there and FEA, but WoL seems to be the easier solution, especially if it becomes an actual pavilion again.
Sirwalterraleigh
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If you look into the context of the entries on that chart...it makes the case that a quick coco ride was not a high probability.
I’m retroactively moving the PCQ up to 95%
You’re right. It wasn’t originally scheduled to open until late 2019/early 2020.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Yeah...not that...but what evs
We’re not talking about Coco?
Sirwalterraleigh
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No...I meant the typical latency period between movie premier and attraction...
Not so much the coco “timeline” that turns out is Jim Hill type breaking news
Not so much the coco “timeline” that turns out is Jim Hill type breaking news
Not my timeline. The companies as of two years ago.
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TwilightZone
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Sirwalterraleigh
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PorterRedkey
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Looks like you have a minor typo. Big Hero 6 was released in 2014, not 2004.