Pirates Restaurant?

[1disneydood]

They might as well start the restaraunt now.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/disney-sets-terry-rossio-to-script-fifth-pirates-of-the-caribbean-installment/

 

[WDWmazprty]

Say what you will; if this rumor proves to be true and a POTC themed restaurant is established, it would make a killing! :king:

 

[menamechris]

You don't know how a sit-down in the MK would benefit Disney? Have you been to the Crystal Palace? They make a killing! Character buffets make a fortune for Disney. You can charge $30/person for dinner and most people are in and out within an hour (especially in a theme park, where there are rides to get to)! The decision to not make the pirate meal, thus far, has been due to an unwillingness to invest money upfront for the transition, even though they would EASILY recoup that money. Just another impact of the short-sighted vision that plagues TDO nowadays.

I understand what you are saying, but I think I am looking at it a little differently than you. Any given day there are only so many people in the park. They are only (more than likely) going to eat one table service meal in the park. The goal is to pack every restaurant to capacity. Same as (as much as we dont want to admit it) if Disney had its way every park would be at capacity every day. So the fact that I can go to Disney reservations right now, and get a reservation for Crystal Palace means that there really isn't a dire need for another table service restaurant (themed or not). Basically - people can only eat so much - so the dollars that are spent on food in the parks is pretty much capped with your attendence.

 

[Disneygal24]

Tony's has some of the worst food I've ever had on property for lunch and dinner. One time we ate breakfast there and I will say that it was wonderful (which is the only reason we even attempted it for dinner). Liberty Tree Tavern is okay - there really is nothing special about the food which is why it did better when it had characters there. I mean the Mac and Cheese is Stouffers for God sakes and I can get that at home.

I think a pirate lunch/dinner would be awesome - I know my little girl would love it.

~Amanda

 

[HDS]

I don't see why they didn't do this back in 05. Captain Jack IS their #1 cash cow. Jack's popularity beats any other Disney Character. Don't blame the messenger. The purists may not like that statement, but thet dosen't make it not true, savvy? They all, well 99.999%, LOVE Jack.
http://members..net/nolasparrow/kttctag2.jpg

i know that jack

 

[NoChesterHester]

I understand what you are saying, but I think I am looking at it a little differently than you. Any given day there are only so many people in the park. They are only (more than likely) going to eat one table service meal in the park. The goal is to pack every restaurant to capacity. Same as (as much as we dont want to admit it) if Disney had its way every park would be at capacity every day. So the fact that I can go to Disney reservations right now, and get a reservation for Crystal Palace means that there really isn't a dire need for another table service restaurant (themed or not). Basically - people can only eat so much - so the dollars that are spent on food in the parks is pretty much capped with your attendence.

I hear what you are saying but also think about it this way:

It isn't only about capacity, but also about distribution. If the same crowd is better distributed throughout the park it means shorter lines, happier guests, and ultimately more spending. If people don't feel crammed or hurried they are more likely to spend. The suits like that part and it is a critical part of getting any project greenlit (Disney or real world).

There is table service on Main Street (2 locations), Liberty Tree, and CRT. A table service location in Adventureland would help distribution in a myriad of ways. It would activate the street with diners and people waiting necessitating more retail. If done correctly the dining location could be an attraction in it's own right, providing freshness to the area. The park could use a heavily themed dining experience other than the girl centric CRT.

 

[steve2wdw]

I hear what you are saying but also think about it this way:

It isn't only about capacity, but also about distribution. If the same crowd is better distributed throughout the park it means shorter lines, happier guests, and ultimately more spending. If people don't feel crammed or hurried they are more likely to spend. The suits like that part and it is a critical part of getting any project greenlit (Disney or real world).

There is table service on Main Street (2 locations), Liberty Tree, and CRT. A table service location in Adventureland would help distribution in a myriad of ways. It would activate the street with diners and people waiting necessitating more retail. If done correctly the dining location could be an attraction in it's own right, providing freshness to the area. The park could use a heavily themed dining experience other than the girl centric CRT.

I agree.....and I would put it in the old Verrandah location. It has high visability as it's right off the hub, and huge numbers of guests trudge past it throughout the day. As for the Pirate and the Parrot, I'd turn that into a buffeteria like the Mexican place in Frontierland in Disneyland. I know there's already Mexican at Epcot, but seasonally, a buffeteria might be the answer for that spot. I think it's actually more of a scramble at DL but that would work too. That's my 2 cents....

 

[Magenta Panther]

I may get slammed for this, but I did a search and didn't find a discussion already related to it.

This morning on Twitter someone posted that they heard rumblings that the El Pirata y El Perico refurb is intended to turn the often closed food service location into a Pirates of the Caribbean restaurant. Supposedly it would open in time for Pirates 4 release (Summer 2011).

Personally, unless this was already well underway I don't see that timetable being feasible.

Anyone heard of this? Any sea legs to it?

This could be a great use of the space and make a new "attraction" type dining establishment on that end of the park. Needed if you ask me.

I agree. It seems a natural to me. If the restaurant included, perhaps, a pirate show, serving "wenches" and maybe an animated parrot talking to the customers, that could rock. And think of the possibilities with the decor! It could put the Three Broomsticks to shame...

 

[Magenta Panther]

I agree 100%. There is NEVER a day when Crystal Palace isn't booked. Same with Cindy's Royal Table.

Yeah, I have tried 3 times to book a reservation for the Royal Table, I've done so months in advance, and no luck. Not even for breakfast.

 

[inluvwithbeast]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=4418018&postcount=240

Anyone see this beaut? Idk where they got this from. Did a search, and all I came up with from here recently was one other post by the same member.

 

[scottnj1966]

I do not understand why Diseny does not open more resturants at their parks.
You have the adventure land building thats empty and at Epcot the Odyssey.

It frustrates me that I cannot get a reservation or be able to walk into a nice place to eat most of them time. Sometimes you dont want a fast food meal.

 

[menamechris]

It isn't only about capacity, but also about distribution. If the same crowd is better distributed throughout the park it means shorter lines, happier guests, and ultimately more spending. If people don't feel crammed or hurried they are more likely to spend. The suits like that part and it is a critical part of getting any project greenlit (Disney or real world).

There is table service on Main Street (2 locations), Liberty Tree, and CRT. A table service location in Adventureland would help distribution in a myriad of ways. It would activate the street with diners and people waiting necessitating more retail. If done correctly the dining location could be an attraction in it's own right, providing freshness to the area. The park could use a heavily themed dining experience other than the girl centric CRT.

Don't get me wrong, I do think a pirate-themed TS restaurant would be cool. I am in no way knockin' the creative juices that are flowing here. And I am not saying the concept wouldn't work for a TS, but not in the Magic Kingdom. Not to mention, a new TS is already in the works for the FLE, as we know. There are actually 3 TS restaurants on Main Street (Tonys, Crystal Palace, and the Plaza), Liberty Tree, the Castle, and a new one coming up. All of which you can pretty easily get a reservation for any day excluding peak seasons, with the exception of the Castle (and that will never change, bc opening a pirate character meal will not keep people from wanting to eat there - its the novelty of it that there is no substitute for). Disney is not going to rob Peter to pay Paul on this, guys. BUT, with that said, it is a GREAT idea, and I really do think they should find a place for the idea somewhere.

 

[CaptainWinter]

It isn't only about capacity, but also about distribution. If the same crowd is better distributed throughout the park it means shorter lines, happier guests, and ultimately more spending. If people don't feel crammed or hurried they are more likely to spend. The suits like that part and it is a critical part of getting any project greenlit (Disney or real world).

There is table service on Main Street (2 locations), Liberty Tree, and CRT. A table service location in Adventureland would help distribution in a myriad of ways. It would activate the street with diners and people waiting necessitating more retail. If done correctly the dining location could be an attraction in it's own right, providing freshness to the area.

I think this is right on. TS in Adventureland would be great business for WDW and an improvement for guests IMO, and pirates is the natural theme. I'm very much in favor.

 

[WDW FTW]

Welllll if they were to add a table service to the park i would suggest definately putting it in the small and low attraction count adventureland. Pirates themed? Yes please. Something like that, think of the food possibilities, [Carribean, Thai, Indoneasian, Mexican etc.] that could all be considered part of that restraunt. Wow it would be good. But location location location, it cant be close to the entrance by main street because theres Crystal Palace right there. 2 sit downs 100 yards away... not happening. Possibly closer to Frontier land but not quite on the border. I can see them as a great dinner place because ive learned that pirates is close to empty right after sunset, that way they keep the population there. Great ideas everyone keep em coming, maybe somebody is listening??

 

[Dragonrider1227]

I would SOOOOO go to a Pirates themed restraunt. there's already one outside of Disney property. I don't know how popular it is but I imagine it's doing well and if Disney did the same with just slapping Jack Sparrow in it, they would totally make a killing.

 

[WDW FTW]

I would SOOOOO go to a Pirates themed restraunt. there's already one outside of Disney property. I don't know how popular it is but I imagine it's doing well and if Disney did the same with just slapping Jack Sparrow in it, they would totally make a killing.

It only makes sense i mean the public fell in love with the character after the Black Pearl movie, the 2nd and 3rd each made over a $billion in there initial openings and i'm assuming the 4th will follow

 

[SeaCastle]

I can now completely confirm that El Pirata is NOT turning into a PotC themed restaurant, but is instead undergoing an extensive $1 million+ facade refurb that is also removing asbestos.

 

[NoChesterHester]

I can now completely confirm that El Pirata is NOT turning into a PotC themed restaurant, but is instead undergoing an extensive $1 million+ facade refurb that is also removing asbestos.

Asbestos was banned from Commercial use sometime in the mid 70's. I am shocked that this building hasn't been abated before considering the usage it has received between 1971 and now...

I believe you on the facade refurb, just having trouble with the asbestos.

Oh well... There goes that rumor... drat.

Still hope for the Adventureland Veranda? Doubtful...

 

[ABigBrassBand]

It's been a rumor for years. I'd love it.

Same here

 

[IlikeDW]

Asbestos was banned from Commercial use sometime in the mid 70's. I am shocked that this building hasn't been abated before considering the usage it has received between 1971 and now...

I believe you on the facade refurb, just having trouble with the asbestos.

Oh well... There goes that rumor... drat.

Still hope for the Adventureland Veranda? Doubtful...

Asbestos is usually only abated if there is something about to "disturb" it, like an addition or remodel.