Pirates Restaurant?

NoChesterHester

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Original Poster
I can now completely confirm that El Pirata is NOT turning into a PotC themed restaurant, but is instead undergoing an extensive $1 million+ facade refurb that is also removing asbestos.

According to StudioCentral El Pirata y el Perico is now called Tortuga Tavern. Location will remain seasonal w/ same menu but w/ new décor & theming...
 

SeaCastle

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According to StudioCentral El Pirata y el Perico is now called Tortuga Tavern. Location will remain seasonal w/ same menu but w/ new décor & theming...

Interesting development, thanks for sharing. The paperwork I saw for the refurb did not include any information about a theme change, but I guess this is what we're getting.
 

lazyboy97o

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According to StudioCentral El Pirata y el Perico is now called Tortuga Tavern. Location will remain seasonal w/ same menu but w/ new décor & theming...
This is what I do not get. As it was, they had a pirate themed restaurant there just waiting to be used. Why did Disney, at the height of Pirates mania, not even just attempt opening this venue? Have Jack Sparrow Chicken Nuggets and Will Turner Burgers. It is pirates. It was there, ready to just be staffed, and instead it was ignored.
 

cymbaldiva

Active Member
This is what I do not get. As it was, they had a pirate themed restaurant there just waiting to be used. Why did Disney, at the height of Pirates mania, not even just attempt opening this venue? Have Jack Sparrow Chicken Nuggets and Will Turner Burgers. It is pirates. It was there, ready to just be staffed, and instead it was ignored.

I wonder that myself - so easy; I have no idea why they didn't run with it. :shrug:
 

cbconglom

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i think i've said it before on here but again every person i know would name mexican food as their favorite. why is this seasonal again? cause we need thirty places to get a burger but can only get a taco the only times a year i would never go cause it's too busy.
 

wolf359

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Perhaps if they change the name and put a little money into re-theming the restaurant, they'd be slightly more likely to leave it open longer. Which might generate more sales. Which might mean they'd leave it open even longer...

I'm with everyone else that just cannot understand why Disney has not capitalized on the popularity of Pirates with the food venues. I still think a Pirates-themed character dinner in the Adventureland Veranda would be wildly popular, but renaming and restyling the even closer and more obvious Pirata y El Perico seems like such a great, simple, and cheap idea I'm really left shaking my head that this didn't happen six or seven years ago.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how things look this summer.
 

TRONorail10

Active Member
Asbestos was banned from Commercial use sometime in the mid 70's. I am shocked that this building hasn't been abated before considering the usage it has received between 1971 and now...

I believe you on the facade refurb, just having trouble with the asbestos.

Oh well... There goes that rumor... drat.

Still hope for the Adventureland Veranda? Doubtful...

El Pirata Y El Perico IS turning into TORTUGA TAVERN! I confirmed this months ago. The managers and cast of this location knew about the name change in Spring of 2010. Disney is trying to capitalize on the next POTC movie by making this transformation. However, El Pirata was NEVER designed to be a table service location. The kitchen is the size of a large master bedroom, roughly about 12-15x10 feet. It is SMALL. If any effort was made to expand the kitchen to support a table service restaurant, they would have to expand into the already small dining area. It simply would be too much of an undertaking for Disney to invest in now that they are wrapped up in the Fantasyland Expansion. El Pirata is receiving a new paint job as well as a few more props and decorating to add to the theming, as well as another SURPRISE that will be a 1st for Walt Disney World! As far as Adventureland Veranda goes, there are no current plans to transform is back into a table service restaurant. In case you haven't heard, the princesses are going to be moving in as soon as Toontown Closes. And the reason why Liberty Tree isn't a character meal is because it is along the parade route in the Magic Kingdom. Imagine a family getting a visit from Mickey and pals at their table and then looking out the window and seeing them go by on a parade float... think about it! Everything has a reason why or why not Disney does it.

This is the TRONorail - over and out!
 

FutureWorld1982

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El Pirata Y El Perico IS turning into TORTUGA TAVERN! I confirmed this months ago.

That's very right. Look at this week's times guide...

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NewfieFan

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El Pirata Y El Perico IS turning into TORTUGA TAVERN! I confirmed this months ago. The managers and cast of this location knew about the name change in Spring of 2010. Disney is trying to capitalize on the next POTC movie by making this transformation. However, El Pirata was NEVER designed to be a table service location. The kitchen is the size of a large master bedroom, roughly about 12-15x10 feet. It is SMALL. If any effort was made to expand the kitchen to support a table service restaurant, they would have to expand into the already small dining area. It simply would be too much of an undertaking for Disney to invest in now that they are wrapped up in the Fantasyland Expansion. El Pirata is receiving a new paint job as well as a few more props and decorating to add to the theming, as well as another SURPRISE that will be a 1st for Walt Disney World! As far as Adventureland Veranda goes, there are no current plans to transform is back into a table service restaurant. In case you haven't heard, the princesses are going to be moving in as soon as Toontown Closes. And the reason why Liberty Tree isn't a character meal is because it is along the parade route in the Magic Kingdom. Imagine a family getting a visit from Mickey and pals at their table and then looking out the window and seeing them go by on a parade float... think about it! Everything has a reason why or why not Disney does it.

This is the TRONorail - over and out!

So what is this "SURPRISE that will be a 1st for Walt Disney World"?

But didn't LTT only have characters during dinner time!?! (Correct me if I'm wrong). And if that was indeed the case, then couldn't they have kept the characters there for dinner... or when does the dinner hour start at most restaurants in WDW?
 

mm52200

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El Pirata Y El Perico IS turning into TORTUGA TAVERN! I confirmed this months ago. The managers and cast of this location knew about the name change in Spring of 2010. Disney is trying to capitalize on the next POTC movie by making this transformation. However, El Pirata was NEVER designed to be a table service location. The kitchen is the size of a large master bedroom, roughly about 12-15x10 feet. It is SMALL. If any effort was made to expand the kitchen to support a table service restaurant, they would have to expand into the already small dining area. It simply would be too much of an undertaking for Disney to invest in now that they are wrapped up in the Fantasyland Expansion. El Pirata is receiving a new paint job as well as a few more props and decorating to add to the theming, as well as another SURPRISE that will be a 1st for Walt Disney World! As far as Adventureland Veranda goes, there are no current plans to transform is back into a table service restaurant. In case you haven't heard, the princesses are going to be moving in as soon as Toontown Closes. And the reason why Liberty Tree isn't a character meal is because it is along the parade route in the Magic Kingdom. Imagine a family getting a visit from Mickey and pals at their table and then looking out the window and seeing them go by on a parade float... think about it! Everything has a reason why or why not Disney does it.

This is the TRONorail - over and out!

Really so the fact that the parade passes by there all of sudden just popped into their minds after LTT had been operating as a Character Dining Spot for years? What about Cinderella's Royal Table? There's a castle show with all the same princesses going on right in front of the castle and when the Fantasyland Expansion is finished and the Royal Hall with the princesses will be able to be seen through the windows overlooking FL in the restaurant. Oh and the parade also goes by Exposition Hall where you will soon be able to meet Mickey, Minnie, and the princesses all day long...even while the parade is happening right in front of it. LTT lost the characters because of budget cuts, not because the parade goes by.
 

bstiles

Active Member
I sort of have a theory as to why disney has not opened a charcter dining based on pirates. Pirates to a little child are scary no matter how you look at it. My kids would be terrified. Disneys big focus is on family, not saying that all familys have small children and this wouldn't work but as most have said on here MK is really for the little ones. This dining experience might work better in DS as you would be walking onto a hot set of one of the movies.
 

SeaCastle

Well-Known Member
El Pirata Y El Perico IS turning into TORTUGA TAVERN! I confirmed this months ago. The managers and cast of this location knew about the name change in Spring of 2010. Disney is trying to capitalize on the next POTC movie by making this transformation. However, El Pirata was NEVER designed to be a table service location. The kitchen is the size of a large master bedroom, roughly about 12-15x10 feet. It is SMALL. If any effort was made to expand the kitchen to support a table service restaurant, they would have to expand into the already small dining area. It simply would be too much of an undertaking for Disney to invest in now that they are wrapped up in the Fantasyland Expansion. El Pirata is receiving a new paint job as well as a few more props and decorating to add to the theming, as well as another SURPRISE that will be a 1st for Walt Disney World! As far as Adventureland Veranda goes, there are no current plans to transform is back into a table service restaurant. In case you haven't heard, the princesses are going to be moving in as soon as Toontown Closes. And the reason why Liberty Tree isn't a character meal is because it is along the parade route in the Magic Kingdom. Imagine a family getting a visit from Mickey and pals at their table and then looking out the window and seeing them go by on a parade float... think about it! Everything has a reason why or why not Disney does it.

This is the TRONorail - over and out!

Thanks for the info, Tronorail. Have you any information about other changes to Adventureland, such as the returnof the tiki torches or the return of the fountains? I'm excited to see what the surprise is.
 

NoChesterHester

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Original Poster
I sort of have a theory as to why disney has not opened a charcter dining based on pirates. Pirates to a little child are scary no matter how you look at it. My kids would be terrified. Disneys big focus is on family, not saying that all familys have small children and this wouldn't work but as most have said on here MK is really for the little ones. This dining experience might work better in DS as you would be walking onto a hot set of one of the movies.

I have very little ones myself. I don't agree that the "scare" factor would come into play in Adventureland, Fantasyland absolutely.

My kids are foolishly and scared to ride Space Mountain, it is there to have a range of attractions for a range of tastes and age groups. Besides, it doesn't have to be "scary.". The Jack Sparrow walk around character is more silly than scary.
 

Timon

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Still signed as El Pirata and waiting for a new tile roof.
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Courtyard still has plants in the fountain.
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Interesting detail at the top of the stairs.
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Nothing new inside or on menu. Kitchen looks all shiny, though.
 

TRONorail10

Active Member
Really so the fact that the parade passes by there all of sudden just popped into their minds after LTT had been operating as a Character Dining Spot for years? What about Cinderella's Royal Table? There's a castle show with all the same princesses going on right in front of the castle and when the Fantasyland Expansion is finished and the Royal Hall with the princesses will be able to be seen through the windows overlooking FL in the restaurant. Oh and the parade also goes by Exposition Hall where you will soon be able to meet Mickey, Minnie, and the princesses all day long...even while the parade is happening right in front of it. LTT lost the characters because of budget cuts, not because the parade goes by.

wow, cry me a river. it's amazing how some people always try to out-prove others on this site just because they want the final say in everything. my info came directly from the entertainment department as well as restaurant area managers in the magic kingdom. the point i was trying to make about the parades is that disney is always changing things based on issues they have had do to poor planning (another case and point, King Stefan's Royal Banquet Hall in Cinderella Castle). you can blame budget cuts for anything in the park, but there are also other reasons why disney does things. ok, now back to everyone complaining about everything wrong with Disney World :ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:
 

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