PHOTOS - What happens to the 'Be Our Guest Restaurant' outdoor queue now it's summer?

[sshindel]

I still don't see how this is all the end of the world. This seems like a temporary solution to a temporary problem. The popularity of this restaurant will decline over time. Right now, everyone going there wants to pop in and see the interior of the place, so they are willing to wait in a long line for it. As more and more people start to make return visits, they will decide for themselves if this place is something they will want to re-visit. Based on a lot of reaction on here, I'm guessing that folks will start choosing other dining locations again after the first time, because they will weigh the interior/experience vs. the food offered/cost. 3-5 years from now, there will likely not be a long, bridge-spanning line here. Probably much less time than that. Making a permanent canopy, or physically expanding the already large footprint of this building (taking less space away from the rest of the FLE), would seem (to me) to be a overbuilt solution to a temporary problem.
Plus, right now, it's great in-park advertising for this place. Lots of people are in line for that place, it must be great, we should try it.

Maybe the solution is just to create a bunch of period-themed French parasols to hand out instead. Keep with the theming. I still think that is spending too much money on something that is already handled with a great deal of thought to the customer.

 

[nepalostparks]

Making a permanent canopy, or physically expanding the already large footprint of this building (taking less space away from the rest of the FLE), would seem (to me) to be a overbuilt solution to a temporary problem.

^ This.

Would it hide the lines of people for the few hours a day that are currently there (which like you said, will likely diminish over time)? Yes. But then in a year or two, when the canopy or "extra" indoor queue space was no longer needed or in use, you'd have the same people complaining that Disney didn't plan correctly by building an unsightly canopy or having unused and wasted queue space.

 

[TyrantBoss]

Worst argument ever.

First off, it's QSR, you order and sit down at a table. Part of the dining is that you can choose where to sit and do not have a table assigned to you like TSR.

Second, go ask the CM's at Cinderella's Royal Table if you can go in to just "look around." Get back to me with their response.

I actually have gone into Cinderella's Royal Table and taken a look. I didn't walk around inside, I just looked inside...which all many people want to do. It was several years go so perhaps they changed their rules since then, or I got someone on a good day, or my amazing wit and charm swayed them.

 

[TP2000]

I just want to say that this quote was one of the best posts in this forum. People want to complain about the umbrellas, fine. But it is the front line cast members that have to deal with all of the guest complaints at their job and try to come up with their own solutions to problems left behind by others involved in designing the restaurant. It was the CM's at BOG that came up with the TEMPORARY SOLUTION to use umbrellas to ease the guest complaints on the bridge as well as the FREE water cart.

Thanks.

I've never worked at WDW obviously, but I have been in corporate America for enough decades to know that it's the front-line staff who deal with and then often fix the deficiencies of the back-of-house designers and management suits. The suits may think they are cool because they "take a walk" once a week through the front-line areas, but they are generally clueless and only get the happiest "talking points" from their underlings and the flying monkeys they surround themselves with.

The weather in Florida is horrible - FACT. They needed to expand Magic Kingdom capacity with New Fantasyland - FACT. They had huge amounts of surrounding land, a healthy budget, and a fresh design to work with - FACT. They failed to incorporate into the new design any ability to accomodate more than a 10 minute line during meal rush hours in the busiest theme park Disney owns - FACT.

Yup, the suits and designers screwed it up. Good thing those front-line CM's making a fraction of the designers and executives pay are there to clean up their mess and deal with cranky lines of paying customers standing in the heat for the next 25 years.

 

[sshindel]

The weather in Florida is horrible - FACT. They needed to expand Magic Kingdom capacity with New Fantasyland - FACT. They had huge amounts of surrounding land, a healthy budget, and a fresh design to work with - FACT. They failed to incorporate into the new design any ability to accomodate more than a 10 minute line during meal rush hours in the busiest theme park Disney owns - FACT.

I think your FACTS start turning from fact to opinion right around numbers 1, 3, and 4. Florida's weather being horrible is an opinion, one not shared by many people who have decided to live there or move there.
I'll give you that they needed to add capacity. That one has been discussed enough that I'll take that as an honest to goodness fact.
They had land, budget, and were not starting from a cloned project, so part of that is ok. It is not known though if it is fact that any such additions were within the alloted budget (and what might have had to been cut in order to add this to the design) or the allotted land allocated to this expansion (and how much was actually available for additions).
Also, it is not known if they "failed" to incorporate the design, and I'm highly suspect on the "10 minute line", but since I do not know the actual figures, I cannot dispute your claim with a real fact of my own, so I just leave it as a supposition.
It may very well have been a design decision to not add a large space for a line, which may prove in a small amount of time to be completely unneeded and unnecessary as the initial crowds die down and this enters into it's standard lifecycle. Again though, since I cannot foresee the future, this is speculation on my part, but I will not even try to present it as fact.

 

[nytimez]

I think your FACTS start turning from fact to opinion right around numbers 1, 3, and 4. Florida's weather being horrible is an opinion, one not shared by many people who have decided to live there or move there.

Florida's weather IS horrible - that is a fact.

 

[nepalostparks]

Florida's weather IS horrible - that is a fact.

Do you live here?

Florida's weather can be horrible. But there are plenty of times it's more than incredibly amazing.

 

[nytimez]

Do you live here?

Florida's weather can be horrible. But there are plenty of times it's more than incredibly amazing.

Plenty? Let's not get carried away. And I don't think I'd ever call it "more than incredibly amazing." It's pleasant enough from Nov-Feb. Rest of the year? Not so much.

 

[JenniferS]

Do you live here?

Florida's weather can be horrible. But there are plenty of times it's more than incredibly amazing.

It is my dream to become one of those infamous Canadian Snowbirds. Six months in Florida FOR THE WEATHER.
Except for the hurricanes (we were there the year of Katrina, Lee, Maria, Nate and Ophelia), I LOVE Florida weather. The hotter, the better.

 

[nepalostparks]

Plenty? Let's not get carried away. And I don't think I'd ever call it "more than incredibly amazing." It's pleasant enough from Nov-Feb. Rest of the year? Not so much.

It's all on the basis of opinion. That was my point.

 

[nytimez]

It's all on the basis of opinion. That was my point.

Nah, I put horrible weather into the "Fact" category here.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Florida's weather IS horrible - that is a fact.

Lived here all of my life. Its not horrible to me. Sun, rain, doesn't matter. So again. Opinion. Not fact. It's no different than a child saying "FACT. Vegetables are gross". When, in fact, that is the opinion of that child. FACT. Some people like vegetables

 

[nepalostparks]

Some people will never understand the difference between opinion and fact is seems.

 

[nytimez]

Lived here all of my life. Its not horrible to me. Sun, rain, doesn't matter. So again. Opinion. Not fact. It's no different than a child saying "FACT. Vegetables are gross". When, in fact, that is the opinion of that child. FACT. Some people like vegetables

You can like vegetables, but that doesn't make them less gross.

 

[nytimez]

Some people will never understand the difference between opinion and fact is seems.

Oh, I get it. In your opinion, Florida's horrible weather is actually good.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Some people will never understand the difference between opinion and fact is seems.

That's a fact

 

[articos]

When we got the FP+ thing and tried to make reservations (see post above!) we HAD to order or it wouldn't set the ressies.

Hopefully they will/ have changed that.

Interesting, thanks. That's not the way I've heard it was planned. I'll try to check. Hope they don't keep this that way, which would be annoying.

 

[NemoRocks78]

Florida weather being horrible is absolutely an opinion - just like I could say the weather here in California sucks.

 

[Monty]

Florida weather being horrible is absolutely an opinion - just like I could say the weather here in California sucks.

I see what you did there...

 

[ScoutN]

Florida weather being horrible is absolutely an opinion - just like I could say the weather here in California sucks.

I could not even fathom living in that smog riddled state where everything is known to cause cancer. Not being able to experience all four seasons and the amazing visuals that come with them. That sounds like a nightmare of disastrous proportions. The Mid-Atlantic is BY FAR the best area in the country to live AND the birth place of the nation that paved the way for armpit... err states like California to exist.