mahnamahna101
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Agreed, where in Liberty Square though? And then Philharmagic could go to Mary Poppins.
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Peter Pan Queue
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Mike S
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There's space behind Haunted Mansion but I don't know an easy way they could get guests back there, that's why I suggested Fantasyland. It would be a better fit in Liberty Square though.
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doctornick
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I don't know if it is possible but if they have "width" to spare on the Rivers of America, you could fill in some land on the river side of the HM and have that be the walkway to a new Sleepy Hollow attraction. You'd probably have to redirect the HM queue as well to make this work.
But there is plenty of space there currently backstage.
Bocabear
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Behind the Antiques shop there is some space...if they kept the facades and took out the shops there, you could probably tuck a show building in ... The secondary bridge and walkway to Adventureland will become unnecessary with the new double ring hub...and you would have a Sleepy Hollow attraction across from Sleepy Hollow refreshments...Perfect.
jt04
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The perfect scenarion would have been to put your idea where the circus is. Also adding PH to this land. Maybe someday they will since the circus could rather easily be relocated to an area next to MSUSA.
jt04
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Pre-furb? Or even better, pre-relocation.
mahnamahna101
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Agreed... 2 Frontierland attractions and one Liberty Square. Western River Expedition, the Geyser concept similar to ToT, and a Sleepy Hollow attraction would be perfect. And the bridge could help clear up the Splash/Big Thunder bottleneck.
mahnamahna101
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I think IASW getting relocated is just a pipe dream... it'd be great and allow a new Fantasyland dark ride. But I can't picture TDO moving IASW AND adding a new ride. If anything, they'd move IASW to EPCOT and leave the showbuilding for MK empty.
GeneralZod
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I'd like to see the concept extended and melded with the current grand fiesta tour. Get on the boat in Mexico and get off in Canada, while experiencing each culture as you travel around the world.
Mike S
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Or put in a meet and greet
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jt04
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Personally I wouldn't mind if IaSW went away. It creates a terrible bottle neck in a park that has plenty of content to be expanded greatly.
Someone did a mock up schematic and there is tons of room for a major expansion that one ride keeps from happening. It is time to fix that situation IMO.
jt04
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There is room for m&gs, at least two attractions, eateries and shops. The MK needs such an expansion.
Mike S
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I was joking. IASW is fine where it is. There's plenty of other areas in MK that could be expanded upon.
mahnamahna101
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Yeah, 4 to 5 attractions could fit behind IASW, along with 2 in Frontier and 1 in Liberty... removing the Speedway would allow another area to be opened up (4 to 5 more attractions for Tomorrowland without replacing anything). Rerouting the Jungle Cruise path along with a service road and reworking the POTC would allow some expansion to Adventureland (1 or 2). You could even relocate the Magic Carpets to the expansion area.
But IASW should move to World Showcase... I don't want it to completely go away. But rebuild, then bulldoze the show building for a massive Fantasyland expansion (Neverland, Arendale, Tangled, relocated Princess Fairytale Hall, Pinocchio). Philharmagic moves to Town Square. Mary Poppins takes over Peter Pan and Philharmagic. Sleeping Beauty moves into the old Snow White show building. The Speedway gets removed for Tomorrowland redo (there's a ton of space behind the Speedway that could be developed)
mahnamahna101
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Honestly, if you take a look at the undeveloped space behind Small World and Little Mermaid... you'd be shocked at how much room there is. Same for Frontierland/Liberty Square if they reworked some guest paths and built a bridge over Rivers of America. Tomorrowland could easily expand past the Speedway with some work.
jt04
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No place has the area that could be established by simply removing one attraction. And there are plenty of IPs that are not being exploited properly that mesh with the Fantasyland banner.
And I think it could be beneficial to TWDC to have IaSW be exclusive to Disneyland in the US. As some have pointed out WS is WDW's "Small World".
Wins all around.
Thank you.
jt04
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This is all good. I like a lot of your ideas. Although I'd like to see Carpets as the centerpiece of the Animation Courtyard. Philharmagic on MSUSA is interesting.
mahnamahna101
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...World Showcase is nowhere near as optimistic as Small World. Plus, EPCOT needs something new in general. I wouldn't mind IASW coming since little kids have little to do in that area of the park anyways (Gran Fiesta Tour, Maelstrom and the Norway play area are about it - none of the CircleVision films scream kid-friendly beyond not being offensive. IASW is character-free and fits the message of World Showcase perfectly. Why get rid of what's become a marquee ride completely?
doctornick
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It's true. You could easily fut two reasonable sized rides in that area by using undeveloped land behind IASW -- and even help the bottleneck that is in that walkway. Ironically, I think there was once plans to put a WDW version of the Matterhorn in that area.
Heck, if they really wanted to be aggressive, they could put in two smaller dark ride (or M&G) on the two sides of the IASW footprint (one next to the Tangled bathrooms and one next to Village Haus) and then put in a queue between them to go back to a much larger attraction. Not that I expect it to happen at all, but could you imagine putting in the Pinocchio dark ride next to Village Haus, a Tangled dark ride next to the bathroom and then a large scale Frozen ride (boat/omnimover) behind it? Doing that and putting IASW in Epcot would actually be a huge boon.