Passholder Lines

[Brian Noble]

Is there data to confirm that AP/DVC spend more than regular guests? I'm genuinely curious because I was under the impression the average guest spends more by a substantial amount.

The metric used most often is "per-capita spending," which is $/guest-days. On this metric, a guest who visits once for several days but spends a lot per day is more valuable than a guest who visits for many more days, and spends more in total, but less on a per-day basis.

It's not entirely that simple, because there are also marketing costs which you can amortize over the frequent guest and not the infrequent one, but that's the basic idea.

 

[Luxe]

The metric used most often is "per-capita spending," which is $/guest-days. On this metric, a guest who visits once for several days but spends a lot per day is more valuable than a guest who visits for many more days, and spends more in total, but less on a per-day basis.

It's not entirely that simple, because there are also marketing costs which you can amortize over the frequent guest and not the infrequent one, but that's the basic idea.

Exactly my thoughts.

Used this today for the first time at AK and there was a CM holding an AP card at the entrance and she made me get out my AP card to show her. I didn't have my pass holder accessory on my band but it seems that would be an acceptable option instead of showing your card. She was actively denying people without an AP and guiding them to the regular touch points. Overall it saved me one maybe two minutes on entry. I'm interested to test it out on Christmas Day and see how useful it is on a packed day. A dedicated security checkpoint would be much better since that seems to take the longest though.

 

[larryz]

If someone without an ADR tries to enter the park what happens? They are turned away because they do not have what is required for entry. What happens if a non-Passholder gets into the Passholder line? Turning people away for such a technicality comes across as customer hostile but anyone being able to use the line negates its benefit.

Just like having a policy against line jumping makes it fair, but failure to enforce it makes it useless.

 

[DznyGrlSD]

After 6 years down here, I'm sad to say that 70s are starting to feel cold.

I hope someday to be able to say that too!

 

[Kman101]

I would take the 65 degrees I experienced the other day over -12, -20 .... blizzards and snow storms and black ice and shoveling out a driveway or a road ... LOL

 

[21stamps]

I hope someday to be able to say that too!

You could be crazy like me.. move FROM South Florida TO the Midwest.lol

I used to refuse to go as far North as Orlando between late Fall and early Spring because I thought it was too cold. I'd take a "cold" Orlando winter now!

 

[arko]

Just got back recently from Disneyland (AMAZING!) and every single purchase I made, I was asked if AP holder. They roll differently there.

That's because there are a lot more Annual Passholders at Disneyland

 

[disney4life2008]

Tonight at magic kingdom i had to show my passholder card for entry

 

[NearTheEars]

Tonight at magic kingdom i had to show my passholder card for entry

Considering our bands didn't ship with cards this year and we had to pick them up separately, will this be any faster when people don't even have the card?

 

[disney4life2008]

Considering our bands didn't ship with cards this year and we had to pick them up separately, will this be any faster when people don't even have the card?

I doubt it. It still takes time because most people do not have their cards. The true test will be Christmas and nye

 

[Bolt]

If you were at DHS - it was worth it. No line for them, but line was nearing the ticket booths before Star Wars fireworks.

 

[Bandini]

Is there data to confirm that AP/DVC spend more than regular guests? I'm genuinely curious because I was under the impression the average guest spends more by a substantial amount.

That's what I don't understand. Yes, I have read the average guests spends a lot more than the AP holders.

I assume people who purchase an AP are doing so to save money, since they are visiting frequently. So they are paying less for their Disney visits than someone who is only visiting once and for a limited time. So isn't the AP and the AP merchandise discounts enough?

I also heard from a friend who's visited recently with a non AP guest. They decided to see if the AP entrance was faster than the regular entrance at MK. On the 3 occasions they tried this, the person in the regular line entered the park more quickly.

 

[Luxe]

That's what I don't understand. Yes, I have read the average guests spends a lot more than the AP holders.

I assume people who purchase an AP are doing so to save money, since they are visiting frequently. So they are paying less for their Disney visits than someone who is only visiting once and for a limited time. So isn't the AP and the AP merchandise discounts enough?

I also heard from a friend who's visited recently with a non AP guest. They decided to see if the AP entrance was faster than the regular entrance at MK. On the 3 occasions they tried this, the person in the regular line entered the park more quickly.

At DHS yesterday evening, the passholder line was backed up with about 10-12 people waiting while there were at least 5 empty regular touch points.

 

[Bandini]

At DHS yesterday evening, the passholder line was backed up with about 10-12 people waiting while there were at least 5 empty regular touch points.

That is too darned funny! So typical, but funny

 

[drizgirl]

At DHS yesterday evening, the passholder line was backed up with about 10-12 people waiting while there were at least 5 empty regular touch points.

Now that's funny.

When I read about this, I wondered if that might happen.

And aren't a bunch of APs blocked this week?

 

[freediverdude]

I hope we can also use the regular touch points, so we have the option for either depending on which looks faster.

 

[disney4life2008]

How about passholder only lines for mine train and frozen.

 

[Luxe]

Used this today. It was shorter than the regular touch points but they were funnelling everyone through the pass holder points anyways without checking if they were a passholder or not. Honestly it barely saved me maybe 30 seconds to 1 minute at best. If they enforced the passholder policy then maybe it would have been a benefit.

 

[Kman101]

So why do some reports say the regular lines were backed up but a few guests in the passholder line? Shocker! Everyone's going to have a different experience. Doesn't make this either bad or good at the moment.

 

[Luxe]

So why do some reports say the regular lines were backed up but a few guests in the passholder line? Shocker! Everyone's going to have a different experience. Doesn't make this either bad or good at the moment.

They likely funnel regular guests through when the line is short and only a few AP holders are coming through.