Passholder Lines

[ToTBellHop]

And if you're just going by signs that don't even say "Annual", you may get people drifting over to those entrances.

That's the AP logo.

 

[wdwmagic]

Does anyone know if you have to show a card to use the line or will they just recognize you're an AP from your magic band? Also do we still have to show an AP card to get merchandise discounts or can that be done from the band as well?

I'm sure ultimately there wouldn't be a problem if a non-AP holder gets to the touchpoint. But there are CM's in the area telling people it is for pass holders.

 

[Kman101]

I think we're over worrying about this. Some guests are naturally going to be confused but I'm sure the majority will shrug it off and pick from one of the MANY tapstiles to enter the park. We'll survive this

 

[ToTBellHop]

I'm sure ultimately there wouldn't be a problem if a non-AP holder gets to the touchpoint. But there are CM's in the area telling people it is for pass holders.

Exactly. It's not likely that they will actually turn someone away but I would imagine they might mention to the mistaken guest that those lines are intended for APs so any issues self-correct with time.

 

[Furiated]

Exactly. It's not likely that they will actually turn someone away but I would imagine they might mention to the mistaken guest that those lines are intended for APs so any issues self-correct with time.

I could see them turning someone away, that's what they do for the Halloween and Xmas parties.

This year I went to MNSSHP between 4 and 7 when they have entry lines going for both the party and regular MK day guests. I had a party ticket on my MB and got in the day guest line by mistake (though I put partial blame on the CM at the tapstile because he was in the CM MNSSHP outfit). I scanned my MB and it turned blue and the CM saw on their screen that I had a party ticket, and directed me to go enter at one of the party only lines.

So, similar situation, since I was scanned at that point and had valid entry, they could have just let me in, but didn't. Although to be fair, they also use the party only entry lines to corral the party guests that need wristbands.

 

[GlassHalfFull]

Have to say, that sign doesn't look all that temporary to me. I was expecting a sandwich board with printed lettering. Given the way things currently work, I'm even more surprised by what appears to have been real money that went into making these temporary signs.

Sign looks easily roll away-able incase they use this during heavy crowd times of the year.. also.. If I go through as an AP and bring a family member or 2 who just have day passes, I'd assume there isn't a huge issue with them going through these lines.. I for one think these could be nice.. surely the school groups can't play language barrier to bully there way thru this like they do when they go into single rider lines and claim they didn't know it was only single riders.. and basically ignore CM's and demand to sit together..

 

[durangojim]

I'm sure ultimately there wouldn't be a problem if a non-AP holder gets to the touchpoint. But there are CM's in the area telling people it is for pass holders.

Thanks, I was actually trying to figure out if you have to flash your card to even get in the line.

 

[JohnD]

Have to say, that sign doesn't look all that temporary to me. I was expecting a sandwich board with printed lettering. Given the way things currently work, I'm even more surprised by what appears to have been real money that went into making these temporary signs.

True but the display signs above each entrance look like they could be rotated. In less peak times, I would probably expect all available entrances would still be used.

 

[flynnibus]

PHOTOS - Annual Passholder entrances debut at Walt Disney World

I like the sign

 

[EOD K9]

I'm joking, we do well but where is my DVC only line? Then what happens when you hold both memberships?

 

[Luxe]

Will be fun to test it out when we go in January. What I always thought would be a good perk was to make the AP fast passes to where you don't have to schedule them. I know it can be done as when a ride breaks or when you go to a DVC meeting they give you fast passes that don't have to be planned. You can use them on the fly. Not saying give us more, but give us that. We spend the most time and money in the parks. Just help us enjoy the parks at a quicker pace than a tourist.

Is there data to confirm that AP/DVC spend more than regular guests? I'm genuinely curious because I was under the impression the average guest spends more by a substantial amount.

 

[JohnD]

Is there data to confirm that AP/DVC spend more than regular guests? I'm genuinely curious because I was under the impression the average guest spends more by a substantial amount.

It depends on how you look at it. An average guest might spend more in their one trip because of their tickets, reservations, ADRs, food, and gifts. An AP only spends on their pass once a year (unless you qualify for monthly) and might spend less in one trip. But then the AP goes more often.

 

[TheGuyThatMakesSwords]

Answering my own previous question -

These are dedicated AP MAIN TICKET lines - Security is unaffected.
Kind of a pity - we never had any backup issues with the TICKET lines. I wonder what WDW is trying to fix?

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...lder-entrances-debut-at-walt-disney-world.htm

 

[Luxe]

It depends on how you look at it. An average guest might spend more in their one trip because of their tickets, reservations, ADRs, food, and gifts. An AP only spends on their pass once a year (unless you qualify for monthly) and might spend less in one trip. But then the AP goes more often.

I still think the average guest spends significantly more because they are spending almost every dollar in Disney. AP holders tend to go to the parks and occasionally buy something or book the occasional meal at a TS restaurant over the course of a year. Of course there are exceptions to this but I would think overall the AP is still a much smaller piece of the pie, especially when compared to Disneyland.

 

[21stamps]

And the problem is they don't send the discount cards out anymore.
My boyfriend never got one. I have one from my Pass purchase 2 years ago.
Because of that I tend to use my DVC card where both discounts are the same.

I was asked to show my card and ID almost every time...maybe that's new, not sure.

None of the parks seem to be trained to ask that question. I'm sure it would get old, as you wait on thousands of people daily, but even at Universal yesterday not one person asked that question. It's not like they really advertise they offer a discount, either.

No one asked me if I was a pass holder, I just asked if there was a discount every time I purchased something.lol

 

[NearTheEars]

Is it THAT cold in Orlando that they're wearing coats? It was -25 here on Sunday...

I would describe it as chilly. There was also a lot of annoying drizzle this morning. After 6 years down here, I'm sad to say that 70s are starting to feel cold.

 

[NearTheEars]

Is there data to confirm that AP/DVC spend more than regular guests? I'm genuinely curious because I was under the impression the average guest spends more by a substantial amount.

Up until they offered the 20% off merch/dining discounts we spent very little outside of purchasing our APs. And we stay just off property during our weekend "staycations."

We still don't go crazy, but our purchases have definitely picked up since the 45th anniversary promotion started.

I still think out of town guests dropping $1000s out spend us by a lot.

 

[FoodRockz]

None of the parks seem to be trained to ask that question. I'm sure it would get old, as you wait on thousands of people daily, but even at Universal yesterday not one person asked that question. It's not like they really advertise they offer a discount, either.

Just got back recently from Disneyland (AMAZING!) and every single purchase I made, I was asked if AP holder. They roll differently there.

 

[jensenrick]

Based on my experience with asking guests if they have an Annual Passport (during Merch transactions, inquiring about possible discounts coming to them), I agree with you. If they're not already a veteran AP, the majority of guests show confusion with the phrase, no matter how I fine-tune it ("do you have the Annual Pass?" or "are you guys Annual Passholders?" or "Do you have any discounts, like the Annual Pass?", etc).
As an aside, I'm peeved at how many AP holders think that the merchandise discount comes automatically coded into their magic bands or ticket media. Until they modify our merch POS tech, we have to see the discount card and a photo ID before we can give the discount.

And I appreciate that, which is why my passholder card is in the same slot of my wallet with my ID, right next to the CC I'll be using, so I can just whip them out- 1,2,3.

 

[Kman101]

Just got back recently from Disneyland (AMAZING!) and every single purchase I made, I was asked if AP holder. They roll differently there.

Good to know! It's been far too long since I've gotten out that way. I'm hopeful to get back this coming year.