Passholder Lines

[joshwill]

id rather have dedicated restrooms.

 

[Susan Savia]

I like the idea. I hope it will become permanent thing.

 

[DisneyJoe]

we use both hands putting the band and the finger on at the same time.

Honestly, I find that to cause the most problems. I scan my band first, and once that is green, I scan the finger - I found this last trip it sped things up tremendously. I was told by numerous CMs to do it that way and it worked better.

 

[21stamps]

As an AP to two Disney resorts, I have to say I don't want perks. I dislike separate treatment, roped-off areas, private lounges. Everything ought to be equally accessible to everybody.


There might be something to the argument that the AP traveller is commonly self-sufficient, and can suffice with an entrance with mininal staffing. Which saves Disney money through less staff, or potentially this staff could be moved elsewhere to speed up the process for the plebs (and potentially Elvis might show up as the main act of next year's Eat to the Beat concerts).

Really? I think anyone who has an annual pass or membership anywhere should get perks. It shows loyal customer appreciation.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Really? I think anyone who has an annual pass or membership anywhere should get perks. It shows loyal customer appreciation.

Agreed. Companies should value their biggest supporters. I feel like we've been complaining for years on this site that WDW was ignoring us fans and focusing on the rubes. Now they do something to enhance our experience and people whine?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Need this permanent. Then work on the permanent DVC line.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Really? I think anyone who has an annual pass or membership anywhere should get perks. It shows loyal customer appreciation.

But there is a perk to our AP's, and then some: cheaper prices. For buying in bulk. Admission, F&B, merch.

I dislike specialty treatments in the parks. In a Disney park every guest is a VIP. Separate lines and lounges and entrances and the like create an atmosphere antithetical to what Disney parks are all about. They are m,eant to be reassuring, relaxing, egalitarian.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Ok I'll bite. I'm an AP. Someone please enlighten me and explain to me why this is a bad thing. Best answer gets a Mickey bar after I walk through the AP line

- More separate entrances. In light of the subdiscussion heer of the masses already being confused, this is a bad thing.
- VIP treatment. I realise that for many this a a good thing. It offends however my Northwest European egalitarian sensibilities. (That is why we are the happiest countries in the world, now if only the rest of the world would listen to our sage wisdom!)
- If the entrance process is too cumbersome, then make the entry process better period.

It might be a win-win however, depending on execution and not least on my as yet limited understanding of the full effects of this measure:
- By removing the experienced guests and letting them enter through a lightly staffed entrance theoretically the process for the non-experienced guests can speed up through higher staffing and less people in their lines.

 

[21stamps]

- More separate entrances. In light of the subdiscussion heer of the masses already being confused, this is a bad thing.
- VIP treatment. I realise that for many this a a good thing. It offends however my Northwest European egalitarian sensibilities. (That is why we are the happiest countries in the world, now if only the rest of the world would listen to our sage wisdom!)
- If the entrance process is too cumbersome, then make the entry process better period.

It might be a win-win however, depending on execution and not least on my as yet limited understanding of the full effects of this measure:
- By removing the experienced guests and letting them enter through a lightly staffed entrance theoretically the process for the non-experienced guests can speed up through higher staffing and less people in their lines.

Now I understand your posts...or at least your mindset. Finally.lol.

We are just fundamentally extremely different in our outlook on life. I'll respect yours, but I'll continue to agree to disagree with it .

 

[beertiki]

The biggest factor will be security. Some of the "guards" look like they do a quick search to make sure there are no guns or other weapons, I have had others that will make me open a sunglasses case, shake a bag of beef jerky, look real confused at a mini camera tripod, and unroll a spare pair of socks. All this while I watch some double wide stroller with mudder tires and under seat storage for a small army get less attention than my chap stick. I always pick the wrong lines.

 

[larryz]

So, what happens when a non-AP makes it to the turnstile? Are they gonna get turned away? Let through?

How do CMs usually handle line jumpers?

 

[Simba's Mom]

So, what happens when a non-AP makes it to the turnstile? Are they gonna get turned away? Let through?

That's what I wonder too-"Sorry, sir, I know that you've been standing in this line, but now you have to go over there and stand in that line instead." I'm not sure a CM would do that, but it would be nice, otherwise the idea won't work. Yet, it's a great idea! And you think that if they put a sign up, people might read? No way! But I run an income tax office, and we have the same issue with people not reading signs.

 

[Kylo Ken]

Need this permanent. Then work on the permanent DVC line.

As soon as we get access to the DVC lounge then they'll work on the DVC line lol

 

[Kylo Ken]

- More separate entrances. In light of the subdiscussion heer of the masses already being confused, this is a bad thing.
- VIP treatment. I realise that for many this a a good thing. It offends however my Northwest European egalitarian sensibilities. (That is why we are the happiest countries in the world, now if only the rest of the world would listen to our sage wisdom!)
- If the entrance process is too cumbersome, then make the entry process better period.

It might be a win-win however, depending on execution and not least on my as yet limited understanding of the full effects of this measure:
- By removing the experienced guests and letting them enter through a lightly staffed entrance theoretically the process for the non-experienced guests can speed up through higher staffing and less people in their lines.

I respect your opinion but disagree. Egalitarian fundamentals and sensibilities is another topic of discussion on a more sociological level which then branches into Disney as much as other facets of society. In my eyes, there has never been anything egalitarian about Disney

Anyway, I don't know how much simpler the entrance process can be. The first time I went to Disney as a kid you had to put your ticket through the machine and people still struggled with that. Remember, these are the same people who walk into a clearly marked Fast Pass line, get to the front, and then finally say "What do you mean I need a Fast Pass?" It can never be TOO simple for people.

Btw, your voucher for a free Mickey Bar is coming

 

[MisterPenguin]

Ok I'll bite. I'm an AP. Someone please enlighten me and explain to me why this is a bad thing. Best answer gets a Mickey bar after I walk through the AP line

1. We've never done it that way before.

2. It's destroying my childhood! (See #1)

3. It's not part of Walt's vision, and thus, only accelerates his in-grave rolling.

 

[DisneyJoe]

1. We've never done it that way before.

2. It's destroying my childhood! (See #1)

3. It's not part of Walt's vision, and thus, only accelerates his in-grave rolling.

Source for #3?

 

[lnsemsf]

Or they could make the experience better for all guests.

That begins with the guest. I'm sorry but entry in to the parks is simple, and people make it appear to be the most confusing thing in the world. The entry process in to any theme park is where I learned to never doubt the stupidity of the American public. If you want to make the experience better for everyone, improve the education system.

 

[21stamps]

That begins with the guest. I'm sorry but entry in to the parks is simple, and people make it appear to be the most confusing thing in the world. The entry process in to any theme park is where I learned to never doubt the stupidity of the American public. If you want to make the experience better for everyone, improve the education system.

Can't limit it to Americans though..lol. There's offenders from all around the globe when it comes to being ready for security screening. Disney, airports.. anywhere. It's a bit amazing.

 

[21stamps]

I respect your opinion but disagree. Egalitarian fundamentals and sensibilities is another topic of discussion on a more sociological level which then branches into Disney as much as other facets of society. In my eyes, there has never been anything egalitarian about Disney

Anyway, I don't know how much simpler the entrance process can be. The first time I went to Disney as a kid you had to put your ticket through the machine and people still struggled with that. Remember, these are the same people who walk into a clearly marked Fast Pass line, get to the front, and then finally say "What do you mean I need a Fast Pass?" It can never be TOO simple for people.

Btw, your voucher for a free Mickey Bar is coming

...nor would any Disney parks exist if we were an egalitarian society.

Not trying to open that can of worms.. just had to point out that important little fact.

 

[Kylo Ken]

1. We've never done it that way before.

2. It's destroying my childhood! (See #1)

3. It's not part of Walt's vision, and thus, only accelerates his in-grave rolling.

At this point, how far has Walt rolled from all of the rolling he's done?