BwanaBob
Well-Known Member
The two statues were made years apart.
How can Walt be pointing to Roy if Roy and Minnie weren't there when Walt and Mickey were installed?
No malice intended. Just bringing up a valid point.
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"Partners" Statue observation
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How can Walt be pointing to Roy if Roy and Minnie weren't there when Walt and Mickey were installed?
No malice intended. Just bringing up a valid point.
Beauty_Belle
New Member
The two statues were made years apart.
How can Walt be pointing to Roy if Roy and Minnie weren't there when Walt and Mickey were installed?
No malice intended. Just bringing up a valid point.
You make a valid point. I cannot really recall for it was on the tour that I found out the little inside scoop. I always thought Walt was pointing down Main Street (showing Mickey around), but that was my own take. The artist did both statues and the one with Roy and Minnie, which did appear later, was done for a specific reason because so many wondered what Walt was pointing to. I wish I could remember the specific reasons. I'll do some digging and see if I can find out why. They say the memory is the first to go. haha! :animwink:
chels26
New Member
i just went on the keys to the kingdom tour last week... our tour guide said it was him pointing to Roy and Minnie for mickey to go on with them, so he could "leave" and mickey should stay and keep the people happy. She also said there is another story that says Walt is just showing mickey main street or something like that.
... and just a random fact.. the sculpter i believe is Blain Gibson.. he sculpted "partners"... roy and minnie, all the little statues around the partners statue, and most of the AA faces you see around the "world". I also beleive he did every single president, and came out of retirement to sculpt george w.'s face... and they hope he will come out of retirement again to do it again next year...
bryPOD
Member
Our tour guide told us the same thing, however he pointed out that the story was created AFTER the statue of Roy and Minnie was built. That is why there is room for one more on the bench, that space is for Mickey...
As for the partner's statue,the story is that Walt and Mickey are observing all they have accomplished together (or so I was told...)
Now Is The Time
Member
Sounds to me then that the story of Walt pointing at Roy is simply one they made up out of convenience. If he was pointing upwards, maybe the CMs wold have told us that Walt was thinking "Now that's a heck of a castle!" :ROFLOL:
DisneyGigi
Well-Known Member
The Imagineering Field Guide
I am not really sure about the copyright rules so I just wrote the gist..
This is what the Imagineering Field Guide to the Magic Kingdom (Disney Editions) Copyright DIsney Enterprises 2005 says about the staues:
Much thought was put into each pairing and all the poses. Walt is rendered as the visionary, in a hero's stance,pointing towards the future and leading the way for his creation, Mickey Mouse.Roy is presented in a more modest posture,sitting on a bench and supporting the hand of Minnie Mouse.
It also says that Roy's Statue is intended to recognize his willingness to remain somewhat in the background while working to realize Walt's dream.
I am not really sure about the copyright rules so I just wrote the gist..
This is what the Imagineering Field Guide to the Magic Kingdom (Disney Editions) Copyright DIsney Enterprises 2005 says about the staues:
Much thought was put into each pairing and all the poses. Walt is rendered as the visionary, in a hero's stance,pointing towards the future and leading the way for his creation, Mickey Mouse.Roy is presented in a more modest posture,sitting on a bench and supporting the hand of Minnie Mouse.
It also says that Roy's Statue is intended to recognize his willingness to remain somewhat in the background while working to realize Walt's dream.
Blackie Pueblo
Active Member
I guess I've always just looked at it wrong. I always thought he was kind of waving, or finishing a wave. Like he is greeting visitors to the magical place, with Mickey right beside him because it was all started by the little guy. :shrug:
"...it was all started by a mouse"
---Walter Elias Disney
"...it was all started by a mouse"
---Walter Elias Disney
Craig & Lisa
Active Member
For me, I've never connected the 2 statues. To me, it looks like Walt is saying to mickey, "Look what we have done". And Roy is just keeping Minnie company. Why do they have to be connected? It's like the story that some of the towers on the castle are really missle silos.
Found this on the WDW Picture of the Day thread.
Thanks to 'forbidden donut' for the picture.
to me it looks like he is waving.
Beauty_Belle
New Member
It sounds like we have all heard variations on the same story. Disney, they are creative story writers, so why wouldn't a statue have a story to go along with it....
Jekyll_Baker
Active Member
Yeah, kinda like all the CM-created back-stories for HM
MyNameisStitch
Member
The official Disney Point taught to cast members is either the "Two-Finger" point or an "Open Hand" point.
It could be an Open Hand point...It's up to his manager whether he'll get reprimanded for it :lol:
-Jake
It could be an Open Hand point...It's up to his manager whether he'll get reprimanded for it :lol:
-Jake
Mimi
Active Member
Clearly the Tour story is fabricated. There is probably a very simple (and boring) reason for the exact posture, such as a copy from another statue.
However, I choose to believe in magic... or destiny if you prefer the term. It is a centerpiece of Walt Disney World after all!!! :dazzle::dazzle::dazzle: I think the statue embodies the meaning that you the observer find most touching! (Maybe it really is just a great work of art.
)For me Walt is gesturing towards the Horizon, the great unknown, and showing Mickey (and us) that anything wonderful that he can imagine can be his... that all dreams can come true.
I have to go now... tearing up a little...
MyNameisStitch
Member
Although i'm not a big fan of the Podcast, I did catch Episode 107 of Inside the Magic and they talk about Blaine Gibson who sculpted "Partners". Its funny, I just listened to it again because I remembered them talking about the statue and the guy thats talking about it directly quotes word for word a couple different sources including this page on the Disney Legends site...http://legends.disney.go.com/legends/detail?key=Blaine+Gibson
He also quotes the Imagineering Field Guide...
He quotes the portion from DisneyShe's post word for word LOL
It's a beautiful statue. I've taken my picture in front of it multiple times and it is my desktop picture for my computer.
EDIT: After re-reading my post I wanted to make a quick note, i'm not making any judgements on direct quoting of the sources. They did mention the sources in the Podcast. There seems to be alot of people flaming about using other peoples work and I don't want to be one of those. Credit was given where credit was due. :wave:
He also quotes the Imagineering Field Guide...
He quotes the portion from DisneyShe's post word for word LOL
It's a beautiful statue. I've taken my picture in front of it multiple times and it is my desktop picture for my computer.
EDIT: After re-reading my post I wanted to make a quick note, i'm not making any judgements on direct quoting of the sources. They did mention the sources in the Podcast. There seems to be alot of people flaming about using other peoples work and I don't want to be one of those. Credit was given where credit was due. :wave:
gibsonc
UK Disney Geek
I did the Keys to the Kingdom tour back in May, our tour guide us this story rather than the one about pointing towards Roy. I believe he did say there are lots of different views about what Walt is pointing at but that this was his preferred story.
IROC it
Member
How about he's just saying what's on the plaque?
Could he not be just saying what's on the plaque under the statue? As in, to every visitor?
Either that, or... "You see Mickey... just past the park boundary in that general direction, Roy and the boys will put one resort hotel after another, beginning with the highest priced one, and ending with the lowest priced ones, with the lowest priced one's taking the most time to get back to this point from, relative to the price of course. That, dear friend, is the hard facts that America was built on."
Mickey's reply: ---- (none, he hasn't a clue, but he's happy to be alive)
or Walt could be saying... "See here, Mickey? This is how you hang the moon. Or so I've been told. At least several seem to think I know how, or I'm directly responsible. If fact, if you look way out there, you just might see the one who did hang it up there."
:dazzle:
Could he not be just saying what's on the plaque under the statue? As in, to every visitor?
Either that, or... "You see Mickey... just past the park boundary in that general direction, Roy and the boys will put one resort hotel after another, beginning with the highest priced one, and ending with the lowest priced ones, with the lowest priced one's taking the most time to get back to this point from, relative to the price of course. That, dear friend, is the hard facts that America was built on."
Mickey's reply: ---- (none, he hasn't a clue, but he's happy to be alive)
or Walt could be saying... "See here, Mickey? This is how you hang the moon. Or so I've been told. At least several seem to think I know how, or I'm directly responsible. If fact, if you look way out there, you just might see the one who did hang it up there."
:dazzle:
DisneyGigi
Well-Known Member
If you are referring to my post there really was no way to post the info without saying it like it was said in the guide and I clearly stated the info was from the book.:wave:
WDWFigment
Well-Known Member
I think it's mildly amusing how everyone here refers to a 'two fingered' point as the "Disney Point"; not just in this thread, I've seen it many times here. It's customer service industry standard to use two fingers to point (ever asked airport staff to point you to the nearest restroom?).
Even in hick-town Indiana, we use two fingers to point. Now this may have been started by Disney (I hardly know the origins) but it is definitely not something unique to Disney.