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Parkhopper vs Extra Days
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ThinkTink721
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We went for 7 days last summer w/o the park hopper & w/ the crowd levels being high, we did not visit every attraction.
We are going in Sept. when the crowd levels are usually lower, but we are staying 9 days this time w/o the park hopper.
We are hoping to be able to see everything this time!
:wave:
We are going in Sept. when the crowd levels are usually lower, but we are staying 9 days this time w/o the park hopper.
We are hoping to be able to see everything this time!
:wave:
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RiversideBunny
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Your idea of using an 8-day ticket to visit multiple parks during a 6-day stay will not work.
The system is smart enough to know that today is today and that you have already been in a park that day.
You'll need the Park Hopper option to park hop.
:king:
The system is smart enough to know that today is today and that you have already been in a park that day.
You'll need the Park Hopper option to park hop.
:king:
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You can not visit more than 1 park per day on a ticket without park hopping. If you use your ticket in the morning and then go to another park later on in the day your ticket will not work regardless of how many days are left on it. Remember it is an 8 "day" ticket not an 8 "park" ticket.
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Thanks. Exactly what I wanted to know.
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mousermerf
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No offense meant, but i always find it fascinating that atleast once a month someone thinks they've outsmarted Disney with the whole parkhopper ticket system.
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RiversideBunny
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Just for the math, if a Park Hopper option is a flat $47.93 per person (including tax), then that means it costs $7.99 per day to park hop for 6 days.
For 7 days, it works out to $6.85 per day.
For 8 days, it is $5.99.
For 7 days, it works out to $6.85 per day.
For 8 days, it is $5.99.
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JimboJones123
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No offense back, but the old passes offered "Plus" admissions. This meant that if you went to Blizzard Beach in the morning and TL in the afternoon, you would burn 2 "Plus" admissions in one day. So isn't it facinating that you are trying to offend by pointing out that a theory based on precident would be so stupid. Congrats.
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slappy magoo
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Funny, I thought the post began, like yours, with the words "no offense." Doesn't that mean, you know, "no offense?" :lookaroun
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RiversideBunny
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Offense/No offense- whatever.
How about this question, guys.
What does it cost Disney extra if someone park hops?
Example-
Guest A spends 8 hours in the MK.
Guest B spends 4 hours in the MK and 4 hours in EPCOT.
How did Guest B cost Disney anything extra?
In other words, why couldn't park hopping be just an integral part of going to WDW for everyone?
Is it due to the imbalance in the popularity of the individual parks maybe?
Tks.
How about this question, guys.
What does it cost Disney extra if someone park hops?
Example-
Guest A spends 8 hours in the MK.
Guest B spends 4 hours in the MK and 4 hours in EPCOT.
How did Guest B cost Disney anything extra?
In other words, why couldn't park hopping be just an integral part of going to WDW for everyone?
Is it due to the imbalance in the popularity of the individual parks maybe?
Tks.
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sbkline
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Offense/No offense- whatever.
How about this question, guys.
What does it cost Disney extra if someone park hops?
Example-
Guest A spends 8 hours in the MK.
Guest B spends 4 hours in the MK and 4 hours in EPCOT.
How did Guest B cost Disney anything extra?
In other words, why couldn't park hopping be just an integral part of going to WDW for everyone?
Is it due to the imbalance in the popularity of the individual parks maybe?
Tks.
Assumming you are using Disney Transportation, then those people who are park hopping are helping to pay the cost of fuel for the buses to travel back and forth between parks all day. Granted, even if no one parkhopped, there would still be people coming and going all day long and therefore, the need for the buses to run continually like they do now. But one could argue that parkhopping makes the buses run even more, and therefore the need for more fuel costs. Just off the top of my head, that's the only thing I can think of right off the bat that would cost the company more money by people park hopping.
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RiversideBunny
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Disney could be figuring it like this-
A guest would stay in the MK only for 8 hrs straight.
But-
A guest who park hops, however, might spend 5 hrs. in the MK and then 5 hrs. in EPCOT, for a total of 10 park hours.
The variety adds to the desire to stick around the parks.
In that case it could be costing Disney an extra 2 park hours.
Or- maybe the whole thing is a marketing and pricing schedule that is set to maximize flexibility and profits.
Anyway- let's all go to WDW !!
:king: :king:
A guest would stay in the MK only for 8 hrs straight.
But-
A guest who park hops, however, might spend 5 hrs. in the MK and then 5 hrs. in EPCOT, for a total of 10 park hours.
The variety adds to the desire to stick around the parks.
In that case it could be costing Disney an extra 2 park hours.
Or- maybe the whole thing is a marketing and pricing schedule that is set to maximize flexibility and profits.
Anyway- let's all go to WDW !!
:king: :king:
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AEfx
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I for one think it's fabulous Disney charges extra for park hopping. It saves many families a great deal of money.
Before, you still paid for it, but you had no choice in the matter. Disney ticket prices really aren't any much than they used to be. Pre-MYW, if one wanted to spend a week at Disney (7 days admission) you had to buy a super-dooper pass for $350 that included every option. Now, by breaking it up, a 7-day ticket can be had for just over $200 if you don't need all the options.
Now, this doesn't mean it worked out for EVERYONE. For instance, locals (or semi-locals) who may have bought a 4 or 5-day park hopper before, and perhaps used it over the course of a year or more are paying more now. But by and large, the vast majority of guests never used the "no expiration" option - they just buy their tickets and use them up. And although for many families park hopping is essential (I know it is for me personally), others just don't use it. For example, when we travel with my niece (who is in a wheelchair) we find it much easier to choose one park per day and just do it fully instead of taking the extra time it takes us to park hop. That's a big savings ($200 for a family of four) that before they would have had to pay for if they used it or not.
It definitely was done to benefit Disney's bottom line (as everything is), but many people pay less for admission today than they did five years ago. If it costs Disney more money or not for people to hop, I still think we are better off in this system than we were before. Choice is almost always better.
AEfx
Before, you still paid for it, but you had no choice in the matter. Disney ticket prices really aren't any much than they used to be. Pre-MYW, if one wanted to spend a week at Disney (7 days admission) you had to buy a super-dooper pass for $350 that included every option. Now, by breaking it up, a 7-day ticket can be had for just over $200 if you don't need all the options.
Now, this doesn't mean it worked out for EVERYONE. For instance, locals (or semi-locals) who may have bought a 4 or 5-day park hopper before, and perhaps used it over the course of a year or more are paying more now. But by and large, the vast majority of guests never used the "no expiration" option - they just buy their tickets and use them up. And although for many families park hopping is essential (I know it is for me personally), others just don't use it. For example, when we travel with my niece (who is in a wheelchair) we find it much easier to choose one park per day and just do it fully instead of taking the extra time it takes us to park hop. That's a big savings ($200 for a family of four) that before they would have had to pay for if they used it or not.
It definitely was done to benefit Disney's bottom line (as everything is), but many people pay less for admission today than they did five years ago. If it costs Disney more money or not for people to hop, I still think we are better off in this system than we were before. Choice is almost always better.
AEfx
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disneydudette
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drawing a total blank here but...
For our september we've opted NOT to upgrade to park hoppers. This will be a first for us...
Anyways... even with the base ticket... am I allowed to go to the MK in the morning...leave for a quick swim or nap... and come back to the MK in the afternoon/evening? Or am I "forced" to stay in the park the entire time?
thanks... had a total brain fart and didn't know :wave:
For our september we've opted NOT to upgrade to park hoppers. This will be a first for us...
Anyways... even with the base ticket... am I allowed to go to the MK in the morning...leave for a quick swim or nap... and come back to the MK in the afternoon/evening? Or am I "forced" to stay in the park the entire time?
thanks... had a total brain fart and didn't know :wave:
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disneytopdog
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The park hopper is the only way to go IMHO. The benefits so out weigh the extra cost. :sohappy:
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mousermerf
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The simple way to look at it:
If you goto MK and Epcot in one day, which rides will you visit?
Probably MK's mountains and Epcot's E-tickets. Remember how those rides used to cost different prices?
By hopping, instead of staying at MK and doing the E's and some D's, C's, etc.. you're now getting lots of E's between MK and Epcot.
It costs more to maintain those rides, consider Test Track versus Tiki Birds. Thus, they charge you to do it.
If you goto MK and Epcot in one day, which rides will you visit?
Probably MK's mountains and Epcot's E-tickets. Remember how those rides used to cost different prices?
By hopping, instead of staying at MK and doing the E's and some D's, C's, etc.. you're now getting lots of E's between MK and Epcot.
It costs more to maintain those rides, consider Test Track versus Tiki Birds. Thus, they charge you to do it.
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slappy magoo
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RiversideBunny, I hear ya. I think the park hopper option is an option they can afford to bite. At the very least, the next time the economy is such that they don't need to increase prices, increase them anyway, but include the park hopper option, and then always have it as part of the base ticket from that point forward...
However, I can get on the trusty ol' Devil's Advocate bandwagon and see WDW's side of thing, or rather the side they claim to have. Some people DON'T park hop, ever, so why should they be forced to pay for it? Because if they include park hopping as a free perk, it'll still be assumed by some people that WDW could then LOWER the cost and NOT include it. One of those situation where, no matter what, some people aren't satisfied. Plus, what I think they're REALLY worried about are the small handful of people, small enough to be statistically insignificant (but not quite) who'd "take advantage" of the park hopper option by only going from park to park to hit the e-ticket rides. Not spending time going on other rides, certainly not spending time shopping
and potentially lousing up their estimates for standby times and taking too many damn fastpasses. 
Maybe what'd be the best compromise would be a pay-as-you-go option, whereby if you're staying in a disney resort, you only pay for park hopping every day you actually park hop. When you decide you want to park hop, you go to the second park, feed your ticket in, and your room is automatically billed for parkhopping for the day. Make it 10 dollars every day you do it, with a 40 dollar cap (so after your 4th day park hopping, you don't pay any more, no matter how many days are left on your pass). Plenty of people will still wind up paying 40 bucks, and maybe just maybe, the people who don't pay the full 40 for it will be offset by the guests who'd normally never park hop but decided to give it a shot because 10 dollars seemed like a nominal fee for that option.
However, I can get on the trusty ol' Devil's Advocate bandwagon and see WDW's side of thing, or rather the side they claim to have. Some people DON'T park hop, ever, so why should they be forced to pay for it? Because if they include park hopping as a free perk, it'll still be assumed by some people that WDW could then LOWER the cost and NOT include it. One of those situation where, no matter what, some people aren't satisfied. Plus, what I think they're REALLY worried about are the small handful of people, small enough to be statistically insignificant (but not quite) who'd "take advantage" of the park hopper option by only going from park to park to hit the e-ticket rides. Not spending time going on other rides, certainly not spending time shopping
and potentially lousing up their estimates for standby times and taking too many damn fastpasses. Maybe what'd be the best compromise would be a pay-as-you-go option, whereby if you're staying in a disney resort, you only pay for park hopping every day you actually park hop. When you decide you want to park hop, you go to the second park, feed your ticket in, and your room is automatically billed for parkhopping for the day. Make it 10 dollars every day you do it, with a 40 dollar cap (so after your 4th day park hopping, you don't pay any more, no matter how many days are left on your pass). Plenty of people will still wind up paying 40 bucks, and maybe just maybe, the people who don't pay the full 40 for it will be offset by the guests who'd normally never park hop but decided to give it a shot because 10 dollars seemed like a nominal fee for that option.
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disneytopdog
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Offense/No offense- whatever.
How about this question, guys.
What does it cost Disney extra if someone park hops?
Example-
Guest A spends 8 hours in the MK.
Guest B spends 4 hours in the MK and 4 hours in EPCOT.
How did Guest B cost Disney anything extra?
In other words, why couldn't park hopping be just an integral part of going to WDW for everyone?
Is it due to the imbalance in the popularity of the individual parks maybe?
Tks.
Its not that it cost Disney anymore for a park hopper or single day visit. Someone mentioned earlier there is the cost of the transportation system. It should not increase there cost by that much. The busses have to run for the resort guests so I am sure that is figured into the nightly room rates.
Disney could include the park hopper option to all there tickets at no charge. But they wont, its a way of adding options on to a product and charging more money for it. Car dealers do it, airlines do it, its just the American way
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