Parent swap changes...

[Missing20K]

Nothing is stopping them from riding with one another. Get in the queue again like literally everyone else has ever done since the dawn of lines, or ride together on the next ride. Again, the implication that the magic of Disney is evaporating because children in certain families can no longer ride twice in a row without waiting their turn is ridiculous. Please pick a different topic (or a different part of this conversation, e.g. the FastPass portion) for your barbs if you want anyone but the most cynical of the cynical to take them seriously.

So make a family wait for upwards of two hours, twice, for say, slinky dog, so that one extra person doesn’t get a ride?

Sounds so magical. I personally can’t wait to tell my kids that only one of them get to ride with their grandfather unless they want to wait for another 2 hours.

Also, I’m not attacking you personally, so I don’t appreciate you claiming my opinions are “barbs” or just posting to be cynical. It’s a discussion board. I made a post. I, as everyone else here, is free to post in any thread they choose.

Just put me on ignore if my “barbs” bother you so much (which they most obviously do).

 

[James Alucobond]

So make a family wait for upwards of two hours, twice, for say, slinky dog, so that one extra person doesn’t get a ride?

Sounds so magical. I personally can’t wait to tell my kids that only one of them get to ride with their grandfather unless they want to wait for another 2 hours.

Yes, wait in line or trade off who rides with whom next ride. If their grandfather is physically unable to wait, other options are available to help him ride with your children. Do you cut in front of others at the sliding board in the park? On the diving board at your pool? Why would this line be any different? Does Disney “magic” make it somehow socially acceptable?

Also, I’m not attacking you personally, so I don’t appreciate you claiming my opinions are “barbs” or just posting to be cynical. It’s a discussion board. I made a post. I, as everyone else here, is free to post in any thread they choose.

I am not personally offended. Just saying the “so magical!” thing is the Disney equivalent of pasting the doge meme into the topic and contributes basically nothing to the discussion. It’s a catch-all complaint you can throw in any topic, apparently even when it doesn’t make much sense.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

So make a family wait for upwards of two hours, twice, for say, slinky dog, so that one extra person doesn’t get a ride?

Yes, this is how lines are supposed to work. All the kids can ride with their grandfather at the next headliner while a different adult sits out, or you get in line again.

 

[Missing20K]

Yes, wait in line or trade off who rides with whom next ride. If their grandfather is physically unable to wait, other options are available to help him ride with your children. Do you cut in front of others at the sliding board in the park? On the diving board at your pool? Why would this line be any different? Does Disney “magic” make it somehow socially acceptable?


I am not personally offended. Just saying the “so magical!” thing is the Disney equivalent of pasting the doge meme into the topic and contributes basically nothing to the discussion. It’s a catch-all complaint you can throw in any topic, apparently even when it doesn’t make much sense.

Comparing it to cutting in line is a false equivalency. It was, and still will be, by the book. You realize with this change there can still be a child who rides twice, thus “cutting” the line.

And yes, the Disney magic does/did make it socially acceptable. It’s what does, or at least used to, set Disney apart.

Umm I didn’t say I offended you. You offended me. For one reason or another, you decided to reply to my posts that didn’t reply to anyone, they were just my personal observations, and tell me how my opinion is worthless, in so many words. This will now be the third time I’ve told you to ignore me if you don’t like my contributions.

This forum, which is one of the reasons I’ve enjoyed it at times, has many threads that go off on wonderful tangents where people learn more and have more fun then they would otherwise. Then mods pull it back to topic and we get to do the whole fun ride again.

Many of those threads have posts of one or two word memes, gifs, one sentence quibbles, etc. Do you attack those posters with the same ferocity you do I?

So again, feel free to put me on ignore whenever you choose. I won’t be responding to any of your posts or replies to mine. Life is too short to deal with folks like yourself.

Have a magical day!

 

[Missing20K]

Yes, this is how lines are supposed to work. All the kids can ride with their grandfather at the next headliner while a different adult sits out, or you get in line again.

To quote Bill Burr, fair enough.

 

[LSLS]

Man, I remember this happening when I was little. Except there was no ride swap. Somehow my parents survived switching who took me on rides and who sat with my little sister and missed an attraction. And real crazy, it never bothered me as a kid that I didn't get to ride the ride twice so each parent got a chance. Ride swap is a nice feature, but you will survive not getting to have both kids ride with you on 7 dwarfs. Not like you can even ride with them both in the first place.

 

[Missing20K]

Be a family.

Two parents.

Two children.

One 7.

One an infant.

Ride a ride, do child swap.

The 7 year old gets to ride twice.

Pull her pass and lifetime ban for line jumping.

Fin.

 

[Chi84]

I hope Disney is trying to give people a better experience than ensuring that they’ll “survive” waiting in lines.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I hope Disney is trying to give people a better experience than ensuring that they’ll “survive” waiting in lines.

At this point, I kind of doubt it.

 

[James Alucobond]

Umm I didn’t say I offended you. You offended me. For one reason or another, you decided to reply to my posts that didn’t reply to anyone, they were just my personal observations, and tell me how my opinion is worthless, in so many words. This will now be the third time I’ve told you to ignore me if you don’t like my contributions.

This forum, which is one of the reasons I’ve enjoyed it at times, has many threads that go off on wonderful tangents where people learn more and have more fun then they would otherwise. Then mods pull it back to topic and we get to do the whole fun ride again.

Many of those threads have posts of one or two word memes, gifs, one sentence quibbles, etc. Do you attack those posters with the same ferocity you do I?

So again, feel free to put me on ignore whenever you choose. I won’t be responding to any of your posts or replies to mine. Life is too short to deal with folks like yourself.

Have a magical day!

Genuine apologies. I must have misread your earlier post as I did not realize I had offended you. My only intention was to say that the policy as operationally applied in the parks seems, to me, to go against conventional wisdom with regard to how lines work and that the written policy makes it seem as though this was never the intended outcome.

But I’ll leave it at that as I’m repeating myself ad infinitum at this point. Just wanted to say I’m sorry if I quoted you out of turn or made you feel attacked on a personal level. It was not my intention.

 

[Missing20K]

I hope Disney is trying to give people a better experience than ensuring that they’ll “survive” waiting in lines.

It’s almost like they’ve devoted huge sums of money to try and figure out how to have guests avoid waiting in line or something.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

It’s almost like they’ve devoted huge sums of money to try and figure out how to have guests avoid waiting in line or something.

Lines that they created by not expanding with additional attractions and adding more resorts.

 

[Missing20K]

Lines that they created by not expanding with additional attractions and adding more resorts.

Yep. And yet, the nostalgia is so ingrained that people willingly line up to wait 2 hours for a children’s roller coaster with medium-light theming. Which would be (and at a time was) completely unnecessary if they built 1) enough attractions, and 2) attractions with much higher hourly ride capacities then they have recently.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

Be a family.

Two parents.

Two children.

One 7.

One an infant.

Ride a ride, do child swap.

The 7 year old gets to ride twice.

Pull her pass and lifetime ban for line jumping.

Fin.

More like a very lucky seven-year-old, but as we all know, on most ride swap attractions two people next to each other doesn’t keep another group from getting on.

 

[Missing20K]

More like a very lucky seven-year-old, but as we all know, on most ride swap attractions two people next to each other doesn’t impede another group from getting on.

Isn’t every 7 year old at Disney lucky?

It wouldn’t impact a single rider(s)?

My slinky dog was just an example of a ludicrously long line. Use FoP instead. Then the 7 year old “cuts” in front of a single solitary guest. One likely with children of their own, who, one would think, understands the difficulty in doing Disney with a small child/ren (particularly in the commando style Disney themselves have made necessary in order to see enough attractions to meet their secretive quota of happiness), so that they aren’t gonna be terribly inconvenienced by a child getting one more ride with the other caregiver. At least I’d never have been. Even when I was a childless park commando I thought it was a great idea for families. Never once felt the child was skipping in front of me. Still do. Never won’t.

If Disney empowered their CM and security enough to actually enforce policies, we wouldn’t even be having the discussion. Same reason the “my group is just up there” is a constant refrain in queue.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Isn’t every 7 year old at Disney lucky?

It wouldn’t impact a single rider(s)?

My slinky dog was just an example of a ludicrously long line. Use FoP instead. Then the 7 year old “cuts” in front of a single solitary guest. One likely with children of their own, who, one would think, understands the difficulty in doing Disney with a small child/ren (particularly in the commando style Disney themselves have made necessary in order to see enough attractions to meet their secretive quota of happiness), so that they aren’t gonna be terribly inconvenienced by a child getting one more ride with the other caregiver. At least I’d never have been. Even when I was a childless park commando I thought it was a great idea for families. Never once felt the child was skipping in front of me. Still do. Never won’t.

If Disney empowered their CM and security enough to actually enforce policies, we wouldn’t even be having the discussion. Same reason the “my group is just up there” is a constant refrain in queue.

Rider swap wasn't available on all attractions.

ETA: ISN'T.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

Isn’t every 7 year old at Disney lucky?

Wasn’t really going down that rabbit hole (as it’s a deep one), but yes, they’re all lucky. So are the adults with them, whether they’ve ridden Slinky Dog once, twice, fifty times, or not at all.

Ride swap remains a very generous courtesy that gives the waiting parent an opportunity to experience it once as well, for that same initial wait.

Rides like Slinky and Big Thunder don’t utilize single rider (many ride swap ones don’t), so they’re likely seating 2 people per row. Maybe 3 on Big Thunder if two are small. But an ‘extra’ third person would prevent another group from getting the next row. Likewise, on something like Test Track, two people riding leaves room to take someone from single rider (yet another fun perk big groups have largely ruined), whereas filling the row with three keeps single rider stagnant.

This change makes sense. It really does. To those who strongly oppose it, be grateful for the extra magic you got, but this is a leveling that on every other front makes sense for most guests.

 

[ToTBellHop]

If children can’t handle being told they only get to ride once after waiting in line, then I don’t know what to tell you. The entitlement on display here is astonishing. And it’s exactly why Disney is taking something away.

We have twins. We wait 2 hours for Slinky Dog and, gasp, only one of them rides with me. The other rides with me on Toy Story Mania. Somehow they still love vacation.

Actually, they’d rather ride with each other.

 

[mgf]

If children can’t handle being told they only get to ride once after waiting in line, then I don’t know what to tell you. The entitlement on display here is astonishing. And it’s exactly why Disney is taking something away.

We have twins. We wait 2 hours for Slinky Dog and, gasp, only one of them rides with me. The other rides with me on Toy Story Mania. Somehow they still love vacation.

Actually, they’d rather ride with each other.

I am puzzled why following the letter of the policy and/or expressing frustration that same policy might be changing = astonishing entitlement. Would you say the same if Poly guests were upset when suddenly told they could only park at TTC and not in the Poly's lot?

A definined benefit being removed is worthy of discussion. No one here has self-reported abusing the system or has advocated for abusing the system. All I have seen in this thread is some parents/guardians/grandparents saying this is a bummer and if Disney rethought this change that would be great.

 

[pdude81]

I think people are talking around each other here. The policy before allowed more to ride. That wasn't cheating, although some people would lie about a fear issue with a member of their party to gain extra rides for others. It had the potential for exploitation, however for those who just allowed mom and dad to both ride with their kids then all good. This is how the policy worked and we're not mad at you for it.

Now that the policy is changing, there is an argument about whether or not the +1 policy is fair and it's the usual fight between those who benefitted from it and those that didn't. This is where the real argument lies (what's fair and what's not). And my guess is that's where @MansionButler84 views the entitlement. If people think they should get extra rides for more than the +1 when Disney is taking away free fastpass for the masses. Soon enough it's going to suck more for each and every one of us.

Just don't assume everybody who is arguing about what is fair thinks your kid is a cheater for getting an extra ride in 2018. I certainly don't. But I don't think given where things are headed that mom and dad both should get to ride with 3 kids while the other waits with the baby. Not when they are sticking random people in your row from the single rider line in Test Track. This is forward thinking