News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

[alias8703]

I'm just taking the perspective of a first time visitor and how that would impact their experience.

In this case I can totally understand! But for the regulars they should be able to handle it.

BTW I think Sunset Seasons Greetings looks like it's going to be a marked improvement over the Chinese Theater shows. Based alone on the way the street flows and leads up to ToT. I think it will be more akin to Mainstreet and the Castle than the Chinese Theater area.

 

[alias8703]

Anyone who truly cares about storytelling can agree, this is as tacky as it gets, and will indeed take away from the atmosphere and story of the Tower of Terror.

Also I posted this and forgot what thread I was in... So pixar pier eh?

Haha right!!!! Wait... how the heck did that even all happen haha

 

[Deleted member 107043]

lol, I know I'm overreacting. It's just really lame to know what the ride means and stands for and then see them slap a big grinning character on the outside. But this is Disney after all. My bar was set too high already.

I agree with this. But I'm also exhausted by all the unnecessay movie and character tie-ins.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

Well at least DLR didn't get this.

http://www.slashfilm.com/tower-of-terror-holiday/

Did you see what they did get? It's permanent and a thousand times worse:

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Did you see what they did get? It's permanent and a thousand times worse:

I've yet to see it in person, but what I've seen in photos. My primary issue with the design is the placement in HWL.

 

[mickEblu]

I've yet to see it in person, but what I've seen in photos. My primary issue with the design is the placement in HWL.

Which it looks like will be the case for at least another 3+ years. Unless things can get going on Marvel Land now since they've moved on from the eastern gateway? With that said, I'm not sure if that really means anything when it comes to expanding DCA/ Marvel land into the bus transportation area. Couldn't they move the bus transportation area somewhere else if they really wanted to? I don't think there is anything mutually exclusive about the Harbor bridge/ Pumbaa parking structure and the DCA expansion other than it would have been convenient to build both at the same time.

EDIT: well the monorail being rerouted would have been one factor but it's not being rerouted now that they ve decided on the Pinocchio lot for the new structure.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Which it looks like will be the case for at least another 3+ years. Unless things can get going now since they've moved on from the eastern gateway? With that said, I'm not sure if that really means anything when it comes to expanding DCA/ Marvel land into the bus transportation area. Couldn't they move the bus transportation area somewhere else if they really wanted to? I don't think there is anything mutually exclusive about the Harbor bridge/ Pumbaa parking structure and the DCA expansion other than it would have been convenient to build both at the same time.

EDIT: well the monorail being rerouted would have been one factor but it's not being rerouted now that they ve decided on the Pinocchio lot for the new structure.

I think you all are putting way too much emphasis on the Eastern Gateway in relation to a Marvel expansion at DCA. As proven by SW:GE and Disney's secret Plan B "Western Gateway", the company will spend/demolish/rearrange whatever is needed to accomplish its long-term business objectives. If the Board and the C-suite executives in Burbank want Marvel built within the existing property it'll happen with or without the Eastern Gateway.

 

[mickEblu]

I think you all are putting way too much emphasis on the Eastern Gateway in relation to a Marvel expansion at DCA. As proven by SW:GE and Disney's secret Plan B "Western Gateway", the company will spend/demolish/rearrange whatever is needed to accomplish its long-term business objectives. If the Board and the C-suite executives in Burbank want Marvel built within the existing property it'll happen with or without the Eastern Gateway.

That's what I was getting at. I'm not seeing anything that makes the DCA expansion mutually exclusive to the pumba structure Harbor bridge being built. Unless I'm missing something. The one thing I can think of, is that they would be willing to wait short term on the DCA expansion if they know that they will be eventually building the new Harbor bridge and new parking structure in the next 5-10 years. Maybe it just makes more sense to build both at the same time. Maybe a phase 1/ phase 2 approach with Marve land. But on the other hand they ve already announced this thing twice. I'm not sure opening in phases is something they want to do. Doesn't really pack the same punch.

 

[Disney Irish]

That's what I was getting at. I'm not seeing anything that makes the DCA expansion mutually exclusive to the pumba structure Harbor bridge being built. Unless I'm missing something. The one thing I can think of, is that they would be willing to wait short term on the DCA expansion if they know that they will be eventually building the new Harbor bridge and new parking structure in the next 5-10 years. Maybe it just makes more sense to build both at the same time. Maybe a phase 1/ phase 2 approach with Marve land. But on the other hand they ve already announced this thing twice. I'm not sure opening in phases is something they want to do. Doesn't really pack the same punch.

With a Phase One of the Avengers roller coaster behind GotG:MB and Spider-Man attraction placed somewhere else (Bugs Land maybe). And then Phase Two in the backlot and expansion into the Eastern Hub. They can use it as a multi-year PR campaign. "Come "Swing" over to DCA in 2020 for our new Marvel attractions." and "Now introducing even more Marvel attractions coming to DCA in 2022",

There are plenty of ways to spin phased construction.

 

[mickEblu]

With a Phase One of the Avengers roller coaster behind GotG:MB and Spider-Man attraction placed somewhere else (Bugs Land maybe). And then Phase Two in the backlot and expansion into the Eastern Hub. They can use it as a multi-year PR campaign. "Come "Swing" over to DCA in 2020 for our new Marvel attractions." and "Now introducing even more Marvel attractions coming to DCA in 2022",

There are plenty of ways to spin phased construction.

I would imagine a phase one would be one of the two attractions and not both. If they were to use the expansion pad behind GOTG, Bugs Land, backlot and eastern hub that would be one gigantic land. In that case, I would hope that the backlot and eastern hub are used for a brand new land or a new Hollywoodland attraction.

 

[jmuboy]

That's what I was getting at. I'm not seeing anything that makes the DCA expansion mutually exclusive to the pumba structure Harbor bridge being built. Unless I'm missing something. The one thing I can think of, is that they would be willing to wait short term on the DCA expansion if they know that they will be eventually building the new Harbor bridge and new parking structure in the next 5-10 years. Maybe it just makes more sense to build both at the same time. Maybe a phase 1/ phase 2 approach with Marve land. But on the other hand they ve already announced this thing twice. I'm not sure opening in phases is something they want to do. Doesn't really pack the same punch.

Over on the wdw pages @Marni1971 hinted Marvel area and the Mickey ride are currently “a mess” which I took to mean they must be altering or revisiting plans with the recent changes to the resort parking plans and Toy Story bus drop not changing for now. Not rerouting the monorail must mean Hollywood May stay as is for a while and new plans to fit the marvel area into DCA must be in the works. Not a Huge fan of marvel in DCA but getting it built behind tower as soon as possible to balance Star Wars crowds is critical in my opinion. The Mickey ride may not fit in Hollywood without moving the monorail. Or they want to wait on doing a full Hollywood area update and expansion until a final plan on the Eastern gateway is in place - which may be several years off. And wdi / DPR leadership seem really proud of this new mickey / Minnie ride and want it cloned. But this is all speculation on my part.

 

[jmuboy]

I would imagine a phase one would be one of the two attractions and not both. If they were to use the expansion pad behind GOTG, Bugs Land, backlot and eastern hub that would be one gigantic land. In that case, I would hope that the backlot and eastern hub are used for a brand new land or a new Hollywoodland attraction.

I would be a proponent of the 2 new new marvel rides going behind GotG and replacing bugs. Move all music in the parks to just being in DCA with a new rehearsal venue built into the back stage of marvel. Or temporarily use the Let’s make a deal soundstage as a reversal hall. Then Remove the current rehearsal hall behind TT to add the Mickey ride. This of course assumes All the logistics of this could work.

 

[Disney Irish]

I would imagine a phase one would be one of the two attractions and not both. If they were to use the expansion pad behind GOTG, Bugs Land, backlot and eastern hub that would be one gigantic land. In that case, I would hope that the backlot and eastern hub are used for a brand new land or a new Hollywoodland attraction.

Will Marvel only be the two mentioned by Chapek at D23 or will it be more? I wouldn't be surprised by any combination of things happening at DCA from Marvel taking over the expansion pad behind GOTG, Bugs Land, backlot and eastern hub, or parts and pieces like backlot going to something else.

At this point it seems like everything is up in the air. But I would sort of expect a phased construction for now.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Even with just Avengers and Spiderman, Marvel Land will already have more attractions than SWL. And from the sound of it, all 3 are E's.

oooooh franchise fight!!!!

 

[mickEblu]

With a Phase One of the Avengers roller coaster behind GotG:MB and Spider-Man attraction placed somewhere else (Bugs Land maybe). And then Phase Two in the backlot and expansion into the Eastern Hub. They can use it as a multi-year PR campaign. "Come "Swing" over to DCA in 2020 for our new Marvel attractions." and "Now introducing even more Marvel attractions coming to DCA in 2022",

There are plenty of ways to spin phased construction.

Do you really think that two E tickets would only be part of a phase one of Marvel land? That's seems highly unlikely. That's not happening. If there is any sort of phased approach, each one would contain one attraction. What would phase 2 be? The restrooms and a restaurant?

 

[mickEblu]

Even with just Avengers and Spiderman, Marvel Land will already have more attractions than SWL. And from the sound of it, all 3 are E's.

oooooh franchise fight!!!!

Haha and that's probably all it's getting...If one of the two doesn't get scrapped. At 3 E tickets, that would still be more than any land in any park Stateside I believe.

Eventhough you kind of have to put an * next to 3 since GOTG was originally a Hollywoodland attraction.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Haha and that's probably all it's getting...If one of the two doesn't get scrapped. At 3 E tickets, that would still be more than any land in any park I believe stateside I believe.

I think you're correct. And its ironic that the two purchased IP's in the last 10 years would soon find themselves with the largest presences in the parks over anything else. That's Iger's mic drop.

 

[Professortango1]

A first time visitor would not stumble in to the park at night, look up at the TOT and see a projection and ruin the whole spooky haunted hotel thing for themselves. They would get there early in the morning and see the TOT as it was intended. At night, they would be enjoying the projection show like everyone else. Let's be realistic here.

Since Disney Studios is a 1/4 day park, we usually don't arrive until night. Midway Mania, Tower of Terror, and Rockin Rollercoaster. It only takes a few hours to do the park. Arrive for the final showing of Indy and then its dark and you hit the few things they have to do.

 

[Phroobar]

Since Disney Studios is a 1/4 day park, we usually don't arrive until night. Midway Mania, Tower of Terror, and Rockin Rollercoaster. It only takes a few hours to do the park. Arrive for the final showing of Indy and then its dark and you hit the few things they have to do.

What? No Star Tours?

 

[Professortango1]

What? No Star Tours?

Nah. I liked it before, but the new version doesn't flow as well. Plus, having the exact same thing in California, we skip it in Florida. Midway Mania is similar, but at least the queue is very different so it gives us an excuse to ride.