News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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I've always thought it was foolish for people to collect Beanie Babies, or Happy Meal toys, or wait in line to be first for the latest xyz book when they could wait a week. But people do it and they see value in it. And some see us as foolish for posting and trying to get information about the latest projects on a Disney fan site. Its no different. We are no better than they are, but yet here we are. We all have things that we see value in where others don't. It is not really our place to judge or understand why, people do what they do.
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OK, now you're comparing apples to oranges.

Beanie Babies and Happy Meal Toys have an inherent value in and of themselves as created things. Their worth fluctuates
over time and due to limited quantity, some BB's have resold later for THOUSANDS of dollars.

Those are incomparable to a purchased experience. Especially one that can be attained FOR FREE the following day.

If you waited in line AND PAID WAY MORE for a book the week before I did, and therefore you read it before me, what actual value have you gained over me?
 

Animaniac93-98

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Mon, May 14, 2018
Pixar Pier Premiere Special Event at Disney California Adventure Park on June 22: Six Reasons to Attend
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by Michael Ramirez, Editorial Content Director, Disneyland Resort
The newly-reimagined Pixar Pier officially opens June 23 at Disney California Adventure park, during the limited-time Pixar Fest at the Disneyland Resort. You can be among the first to celebrate the opening of Pixar Pier during an exclusive, VIP-style premiere event on June 22!
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Here are six reasons to attend this exciting premiere:
  • Exclusive entry into Pixar Pier – Tickets are very limited, so after strolling down the red carpet, you’ll be one of the first few to explore Pixar Pier and its four whimsical, Pixar-inspired neighborhoods beginning at 3 p.m. You’ll also have mix-in access to Disney California Adventure park!
  • Ride Pixar Pier attractions – Be one of the first to experience the thrilling Incredicoaster, the high-speed adventure inspired by “The Incredibles,” as well as enjoy the newly-rethemed Pixar Pal-A-Round and fan favorite Toy Story Midway Mania!
  • Complimentary eats and treats – Taste your way through Pixar Pier with a sample of one item from Poultry Palace, Angry Dogs, Jack-Jack’s Cookie Num Nums, Senor Buzz Churros and Adorable Snowman Frosted Treats.
  • All-things Pixar! – Enjoy special Pixar-themed entertainment, character encounters, fun photo locations and more! You will also be among the first to shop for Pixar Pier merchandise.
  • Memories to take home – You’ll receive unlimited downloads of Disney PhotoPass photos taken during the event, as well as a commemorative event credential and special amenity.
  • Complimentary parking – Premiere event tickets include standard parking.
A limited quantity of tickets will be available starting May 16, so be sure to visit Disneyland.com for pricing and event details. Tickets are non-refundable and may not be resold. Disney PhotoPass is subject to the Disney PhotoPass terms and conditions. Online registration required. Event elements are subject to restrictions, change or cancellation without notice.

They left out the seventh reason:

Help pay John Lasseters' legal bills.
 

fctiger

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Totally get it, and I was one of those people who didn't think DCA was that bad. Yeah, it was overpriced, but I didn't mind because it worked for me and I knew it had potential. Still, when it opened anyone could see it wasn't even close to what Disneyland had to offer next door.

Well I enjoy DCA a lot now, but when it opened, ugh. I disagree with people who say it should've stayed a parking lot but I understood with others who thought it was a huge disappointment, especially after forty years of waiting for a second gate to arrive with great fanfare and that's what they came up with.

But I agree the park always had potential, they just needed the proper funding and vision and luckily they finally got it. But its a shame it didn't start off like DCA 2.0 back in 2001. The perception of it would've been much more positive from the beginning even it still didn't get hold a candle to DL but you can't shake off forty years of nostalgia over night.
 

TROR

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How long until vloggers unionize against Disney to protest how disrespected they are?

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Well I enjoy DCA a lot now, but when it opened, ugh. I disagree with people who say it should've stayed a parking lot but I understood with others who thought it was a huge disappointment, especially after forty years of waiting for a second gate to arrive with great fanfare and that's what they came up with.

But I agree the park always had potential, they just needed the proper funding and vision and luckily they finally got it. But its a shame it didn't start off like DCA 2.0 back in 2001.
It's an even greater shame they didn't keep with everything that made DCA 2.0 so enjoyable tbh.
 

SuddenStorm

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Yeah, I went last Thursday with a couple friends (college-aged) and one of them started crying during the fireworks show. She said it's because they showcase all the scenes from the movies that made her cry growing up.

Definitely a disconnect between the younger demographic who grew up with Pixar and the older users here who question the Pixar brand.

I'm a part of that younger demographic that grew up with Pixar (recently turned 21)- but Pixar Fest doesn't appeal to me. Yes, Monsters Inc is one of my favorite films, and I love most of the other Pixar films- but I'm still very against the excessive integration of Pixar into the parks. There is a disconnect, but it's a bit more nuanced than just the old vs. new generation.

I think the disconnect comes more from it being two major groups of fans:

1. The group of people who value Disneyland and go for the history, nostalgia, excellent attractions only found at Disneyland- who come on here to discuss even the tiniest change and harp about the fact a bench got moved 10 feet. We analyze everything while in the parks, taking mental notes of changes. Learning how things are done strengthens the Disney magic for us.

2. The second group views the parks from a very different perspective. They don't care about the history, how things are done, etc.- they go because the emotional engagement while in the park is strong, but don't want to think. I've seen people online actively avoid behind the scenes footage, since they don't want to hurt the "magic". They don't care about minute details, and don't analyze everything. This is the group that the cheap AP merchandise we're skeptical of on here appeals to. This is the group of people that Pixar Fest is for. I'd harbor a guess that 95% of the people who go to Disneyland are in this group.

The two groups aren't mutually exclusive. People spend time in both groups while in the park- even the harshest critics still enjoy a sense of childlike wonder at Disneyland, which is why it's stood the test of time and has such a strong, diverse, and passionate fan base.
 

TP2000

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Is it finally acceptable to say that Disneyland is greedy? If a $300 admission ticket to a BS preview of a land you can visit the following week for free isn't blatant corporate greed I don't know what is.

Yup, that's just pure greed. No argument from me on that.

That said, I have to think this was a lame attempt at testing the waters for previews to Star Wars Land. I imagine they are trying to figure out what the market can bear for preview tickets to new stuff. TDA went overboard on this on purpose, to see if there's a market for a $300 ticket to ride a rethemed 17 year old roller coaster, a repainted Ferris Wheel, and get chintzy samples from five new snack bars.

If this flops and only a few hundred idiots and some neckbeard vloggers buy tickets, that means the preview tickets for Star Wars Land may only be in the $300 to $500 range.

But if this actually works with at least a couple thousand idiots, then the preview tickets for Star Wars Land just shot up to the $899 to $999 range next year. TDA is just using this as a test, but they come off looking like total jerks for doing it. :rolleyes:
 
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fctiger

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Yup, that's just pure greed. No argument from me on that.

That said, I have to think this was a lame attempt at testing the waters for previews to Star Wars Land. I imagine they are trying to figure out what the market can bear for preview tickets to new stuff. TDA went overboard on this on purpose, to see if there's a market for a $300 ticket to ride a rethemed 17 year old roller coaster, a repainted Ferris Wheel, and get chintzy samples from five new snack bars.

If this flops and only a few hundred idiots and some neckbeard vloggers buy tickets, that means the preview tickets for Star Wars Land may only be in the $300 to $500 range.

But if this actually works with at least a couple thousand idiots, then the preview tickets for Star Wars Land just shot up to the $899 to $999 range next year. TDA is just using this as a test, but they come off looking like total jerks for doing it. :rolleyes:

What I don't get is with ALL they have opened for the last several years what made them decide THIS is place to get extra greedy? I mean did they charge people $300 to enter Pandora? Its a real question, I don't remember what they did for that but that would've made sense at least. What I don't get is even when they have built entire theme parks and invited early previews they have never charged something like this. Opening something like SDL I could understand charging an arm and a leg to people before it opened. Because A. Its new and B. Its an entire theme park of new stuff. That justifies the price.

Its just the gall of charging something that took them four months to redo and the biggest change is they enclosed the tunnels and added some effects to Screamin and yet somehow that justifies $300 in their eyes. I want this to really bust because that will mean only rich people will be able to afford any early previews. But at least thats a real work of art they are building over there. PP is nothing but a cheap overlay to create some branding in one of the few lands left in DCA that had none, nothing more.
 

dweezil78

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What I don't get is with ALL they have opened for the last several years what made them decide THIS is place to get extra greedy? I mean did they charge people $300 to enter Pandora? Its a real question, I don't remember what they did for that but that would've made sense at least. What I don't get is even when they have built entire theme parks and invited early previews they have never charged something like this. Opening something like SDL I could understand charging an arm and a leg to people before it opened. Because A. Its new and B. Its an entire theme park of new stuff. That justifies the price.

Its just the gall of charging something that took them four months to redo and the biggest change is they enclosed the tunnels and added some effects to Screamin and yet somehow that justifies $300 in their eyes. I want this to really bust because that will mean only rich people will be able to afford any early previews. But at least thats a real work of art they are building over there. PP is nothing but a cheap overlay to create some branding in one of the few lands left in DCA that had none, nothing more.

They did a D23 event for Pandora that was $250 a person and included a 3 hr behind-the-scenes tour with Joe Rohde AND included lunch at Tiffins. Now that is well worth it IMO and it was limited to small intimate group. This is an absolute joke and they should be ashamed of themselves for offering it. People should not pay for this. I sincerely hope people are smart enough not to buy tickets for this event so that they realize just how off the mark they are with this one. It is not greed, it is just stupidity.
 

Disney Irish

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OK, now you're comparing apples to oranges.

Beanie Babies and Happy Meal Toys have an inherent value in and of themselves as created things. Their worth fluctuates
over time and due to limited quantity, some BB's have resold later for THOUSANDS of dollars.

Those are incomparable to a purchased experience. Especially one that can be attained FOR FREE the following day.

If you waited in line AND PAID WAY MORE for a book the week before I did, and therefore you read it before me, what actual value have you gained over me?

Its not apples and oranges, its exactly the same thing. Its all about perceived value.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/perceived-value.asp

Beanie Babies and Happy Meal toys only have value because of what someone is willing to pay for them. Its a perceived value, there is no value without it. So just because someone is willing to buy an xyz Beanie Baby today for $300 doesn't mean the actual object has that value. The value is in what someone thinks the object is worth, in this example Beanie Babies or Happy Meal toys. If it came out tomorrow that Beanie Babies gave you cancer, all the value would be gone. Because the perceived value has been eliminated.

This is NO different. Someone perceives a value in going to experience Pixar Pier first. Otherwise they wouldn't pay for it, they'd just wait. You and I see no value in it so we choose not to pay and choose to wait.

As long as someone is willing to pay for a good or service, there is a perceived value.
 

Travel Junkie

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$1200+ for round trip ticket to Tokyo. $500+ for 5 nights, $300 for 5 day admission. Total of $2000 or more.

or

$300 for a local AP for this event.

I'm sure you see the value in the Tokyo trip, and actually so do I because I've never been. But to someone else they probably rather just spend the $300 versus something over $2000.

$1200+ for Tokyo round trip tickets? You need to change your travel agent.

I see what you are saying though. Any international trip takes a lot of planning, taking off work etc. Local events don't require that.

It seems pretty evident this and other up-charge events are aimed at die hards and the blogger/ social media influencer crowd. Disney was smart and used these events like a drug dealer. Particularly in Orlando, Disney had blogger specific media events for free. They got them hooked on those events and now they are charging them for it. The blogger/ social media influencer feels they have to go or risk losing viewership for not "covering the event."
 

Disney Irish

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$1200+ for Tokyo round trip tickets? You need to change your travel agent.

I see what you are saying though. Any international trip takes a lot of planning, taking off work etc. Local events don't require that.

It seems pretty evident this and other up-charge events are aimed at die hards and the blogger/ social media influencer crowd. Disney was smart and used these events like a drug dealer. Particularly in Orlando, Disney had blogger specific media events for free. They got them hooked on those events and now they are charging them for it. The blogger/ social media influencer feels they have to go or risk losing viewership for not "covering the event."

I've never used a travel agent, ever, but then I've never really travel internationally either. So might make a difference. The prices I found are an average just by looking up on the various travel fare sites like the Price*ines of the world.

But it still proves the point I was making, which you picked up on. Thanks :cool:
 

Disney Irish

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I just priced a roundtrip two-week stay in Tokyo from Los Angeles, and it totaled to less than $500, less than $200 more than a preview ticket.

Where did you search and how far in advance did you have to search out to get that price? I'm just curious cause I want to know where to get the best prices. It can't be secret since everyone does it.

One way I can see getting your example prices is if you are searching for a trip 3-6 months in advance. That is not a comparable search since Pixar Pier event is a month from now, not 3-6 months from now. So what are the prices if you do a search for one month from now which is when the Pixar event is taking place? Can you provide screen shots of your examples?

Here is just one search example:

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