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News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier
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mickEblu
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LOL! Where did u find that?
britain
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Ok, I've thought through this, and calmed down a little...
I don't care if Pixar IP takes over the whole Pier. I do care if the themes spoil the charming thing they've got going currently in the area.
I don't NEED Mickey up on that wheel, but it really solved the "How to make a generic big wheel fit better in a Disney park?" problem in a charming way - tie it to the start of the old Mickey cartoons. What could they possibly do that would be a step up from that? Again, I don't care if it's Pixar IP or not. I just can't imagine a pleasing solution coming out of this.
I don't care if Pixar IP takes over the whole Pier. I do care if the themes spoil the charming thing they've got going currently in the area.
I don't NEED Mickey up on that wheel, but it really solved the "How to make a generic big wheel fit better in a Disney park?" problem in a charming way - tie it to the start of the old Mickey cartoons. What could they possibly do that would be a step up from that? Again, I don't care if it's Pixar IP or not. I just can't imagine a pleasing solution coming out of this.
Curious Constance
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A photo of a D23 merchandise set up from a MiceChat article lol
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I don't know, but it could be that they want the coporate brand better represented by arranging things under a single umbrella as much as possible. No different than SW Land or WoP, WWoHP, Marvel Land, etc.
mickEblu
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Seriously, what are the odds that my profile name gave someone an idea for the clothes line?
TP2000
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Because they have no idea what they are doing. Also because the senior execs are drunk much of the time.
At least that's what I got out of the Parks Presentation yesterday.
0:10 "In 2018 the Resort will come alive with Pixar Fest" = Polite golf applause
0:20 "Featuring a new fireworks spectacular and entertainment" = Awkward murmurs
0:25 "Pixar Play Parade will move across the street to Disneyland!" = Dead Silence
0:35 "Paint The Night returns to California Adventure!" = WILD CHEERING!
John Lasseter arrives from the Hilton lobby bar at 1:40 "Ih greww up in Whithhier Cahlufrnia!"
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Californian Elitist
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Time to stock up on Mickey's Fun Wheel merchandise. The classic icon is most likely going away.
How disappointing.
How disappointing.
mickEblu
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So dumb. As much as I like Lasetter, this is him just him flexing his muscle now. Chapek already did it. It was his turn now. If you can't beat em, join em I guess. They better save some face and add a killer dark ride somewhere.
BrianLo
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To be fair VB has one of the worst approval ratings in all of Orlando and it's also two months old.
I can't find your other quote but Marvel land is definitely not going to be 20 acres... I'd have to measure but maybe 6-8 at best?
britain
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Also, I tolerate the toy story characters being in a turn of the century midway by virtue of "woody's round up" being kind of old. It's from the 50's, but cowboy themed entertainment could be found in turn-of-the-century amusement parks. I know it doesn't really work, but it's a forgivable stretch.
Plus I will accept Midway Mania on the precedent of Pirates of the Caribbean and an adventure on the Spanish Main being housed inside a turn of the century New Orleans area. Exteriors need not necessarily reflect interiors.
If the same logic is applied to all the new buildings at Pixar pier, that's fine.
But the Incredibles...? They are mid-century modern. I don't mind seeing Bing Bong painted on some Victorian clapboard, but not the Incredibles!
Hmm... I wonder if they are going to let the pier time period broaden? What if the backstory is that this roller coaster was built in the early 60s?
Maybe... I wonder if they'll put that much thought into it.
Plus I will accept Midway Mania on the precedent of Pirates of the Caribbean and an adventure on the Spanish Main being housed inside a turn of the century New Orleans area. Exteriors need not necessarily reflect interiors.
If the same logic is applied to all the new buildings at Pixar pier, that's fine.
But the Incredibles...? They are mid-century modern. I don't mind seeing Bing Bong painted on some Victorian clapboard, but not the Incredibles!
Hmm... I wonder if they are going to let the pier time period broaden? What if the backstory is that this roller coaster was built in the early 60s?
Maybe... I wonder if they'll put that much thought into it.
mickEblu
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But all of your examples with the exception of Marvel (which is why I have a problem with Marvel Land too) to an extent are under the umbrella of one universe. Not 10 or so different IPs that have nothing to do with each other. In addition all of those examples are immersive worlds with World class attractions. Not rethemed flat rides.
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Californian Elitist
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He did the same thing with Cars Land. He's getting on my nerves.
I don't want to join anyone currently at Disney lol.
mickEblu
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Haha I figured I was exaggerating with "20." I meant 15. Anyway, 6-8 seems small. Even if Marvel doesn't take any of the bus transport area or the backlot, it would still include the area around TOT, expansion pad behind TOT and Bugs land? Isn't the expansion pad behind TOT 8-10 acres alone?
Sorry, what's VB? I'm not saying MB is a bad ride because it's not. But they rethemed an already popular attraction to a hot franchise and it's also new. It's not surprising, the approval ratings are the highest at the resort two months after it opened. I'd be curious to see where TOT ranked last year. I would have to assume somewhere in the Top 5. So it would make sense that a retheme to popular attraction could bring it up a few spots, especially in the honeymoon phase.
EDIT: VB = volcano bay.
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mickEblu
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Lol. At least with Cars Land, they created a purpose built, immersive land. Also,we ll never know what we re missing out on as we never got to experience the non IP Car Land although it did sound really cool.
TP2000
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Remind us what VB is? I'm not surprised Mission: BREAKOUT! has such a high approval rating, it's insanely fun!
EDIT: Ah, Volcano Bay, that new waterslide park at Universal Studios. The TripAdvisor reviews on that place are disastrous!
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Travel Junkie
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I'm sure Chapek was all for it. He came from consumer products and supposedly his driving force is to brand everything possible to increase revenue through food and merch.
It appears that he won't be afraid to spend but only if they can slap a marketable brand on it. Disney is no longer running theme parks. They are brand parks.
TP2000
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Yes!
He was totally toasted!
I thought I was the only one who saw that, but the way he was chortling during some moments made me raise an eyebrow.
I've heard about his apparent over enthusiasm for le drink over the years, but wow....right before a company presentation in front of a audience like this..?
A little unprofessional.
Being a little sloshed and doing a power point presentation at Pixar might be the norm these days, but that just doesn't fly here.
Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking this.
Just wow.
Makes the whole reveal of this project all the more unappealing and questionable.
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I like John Lasseter and enjoy his work immensely, but...
It's more than just unprofessional, it should be grounds for termination. If an hourly Cast Member showed up for work at the Emporium stock room drunk, he'd be fired. If a 25 year old assistant manager at the Plaza Inn showed up for work drunk, she'd be fired. If a TDA Finance Director showed up for work drunk, he'd be fired.
So how does John Lasseter show up to work drunk, go out onstage in front of 7,000 paying customers drunk, stumble through his presentation standing next to the Chairman of the Parks division, and get to keep his job? Anyone care to defend that? Do Disney's HR executives, many of whom were likely at D23 this weekend, have a position on that?
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TP2000
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But Pixar Place was abandoned and is about to be literally walled off and destroyed next year. It's just a street with brick facades leading to the Midway Mania entrance, with faux board games and Barrel-O-Monkeys decor strung over the brick buildings to denote WHIMSY! Are you kids having fun?!?
I'm just thinking of the paying audience here. Not the 0.5% of the audience who knows what the generic office park aesthetic of Pixar Studios in Emeryville, California looks like and gets the brick connection. I'm thinking of the 99.5% of the rest of the paying audience who has never heard of Emeryville and could care less what the office park looks like.
I'm talking about these nice people on vacation, waiting for their Midway Mania Fastpass to ripen.
I'm going out on a limb and say that those 99.5% would rather spend their vacation in a recreation of a Victorian seaside pier with beloved Pixar characters than spend their vacation on a narrow street themed to a suburban office park they've never seen.
Pixar Pier has caught us all off guard and we need more details to truly judge, but if it helps fix the remaining stretch of Paul Pressler's stucco and vinyl signage from 2001, I'm all for it.