Paint the night is not moving to Disney World. Stop bumping this.

Coaster Lover

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Hmm, I'll be taking the family to Disney first week of August... all this scuttlebutt now it has me questioning...

What are the chances that it will be the same Wishes that it is now? What are the chances that it will be a modified Wishes? What are the chances of a completely new fireworks show? What are the chances of Paint the Night (or for that matter, what are the chances that Paint the Night comes, but then leaves before August)?

Oh, the uncertainty!
 
Figments Friend

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aladdin2007 said:
but its not really giving or loaning is it? I mean I always understood it to be that TDO has to pay to have these shipped here and use it, unless something else is worked out of course....I suppose PTN is better than nothing, the park just isnt the same without a light parade, but PTN just seems so garish to me like a rave party in the middle of the magic kingdom, which doesn't impress me at all.... but guess we will see what happens.
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As someone who has seen Paint The Night several times in person at Disneyland, I can honestly say that yes....this is indeed a rather accurate description.
It is indeed a 'rave party in the middle of the Magic Kingdom'.
Some like that excitement, some prefer otherwise.

I personally like PTNs impressive light technology, but it feels somewhat soulless to me.
It is also a Pixar encrusted affair, which for some ( self included ) takes away some of the potential appeal.

It is however fun to see in person though, as the Cast costumes and a few of the non-Pixar related floats are quite stunning ( New Drum, Princess Unit, etc. )
Some neat design work and clever trickery.

I'm an old fart though...and adore the original 'old school' mid-70s incarnation of the good ol' MSEP.
PTN sure is pretty to look at, but something is 'missing' to me.
Oh...and way too much Pixar. Rubs me the wrong way.

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Mike S

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Figments Friend said:
As someone who has seen Paint The Night several times in person at Disneyland, I can honestly say that yes....this is indeed a rather accurate description.
It is indeed a 'rave party in the middle of the Magic Kingdom'.
Some like that excitement, some prefer otherwise.

I personally like PTNs impressive light technology, but it is a fairly soulless and Pixar encrusted affair.
It is fun to see in person though, as the Cast costumes and a few of the non-Pixar related floats are quite stunning ( New Drum, Princess Unit, etc. )

I'm an old fart though...and adore the original 'old school' mid-70s incarnation of the good ol' MSEP though.
PTN sure is pretty to look at, but something is 'missing' to me.
Oh...and way too much Pixar. Rubs me the wrong way.

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The parade is perfect for DCA though.
 
Donaldfan1934

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Coaster Lover said:
Probably thoughts not too dissimilar to the thought of kids who grew up with Soarin' and Mickey's PhilharMagic when Captain E.O. was reintroduced...
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100% agreed. Aside from various notable exceptions in recent decades, most attractions that Disney has closed have closed for good reasons. I understand Captain EO since it was right after Michael Jackson died, but trotting this parade out yet again is just beating a dead horse. If you watch the show director for the parade, it's clear that the only justification for continuing it is nostalgia.

Bringing something back for nostalgia (which is something that by itself can start to fade the longer you wait) can only be justified when a product has a timeless quality. Unfortunately for MSEP, literally every night parade Disney has built since with the sole exception of Light Magic has pushed the bar higher and higher to the point where it's completely obsolete. I grew up with Spectromagic and I thought MSEP was a major downgrade from THAT. It's even worse here since its replacing a state of the art parade that has been in the park for less than two years. I know Paint the Night is said to have maintenance issues, but it's irresponsible and wasteful on Disney's part to bring this parade out in a way that has a good chance ending up like the Spectromagic situation back in 2010.
 
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Donaldfan1934

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Figments Friend said:
I'm glad the current version of the MSEP is back 'home' at Disneyland.
If this is to be it's true final bow, then I can think of no better place for it to meet it's maker and end it's life cycle then there.

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I agree with you, but it should've happened by the turn of the decade instead of letting it stick around to kill off Spectromagic and possibly Paint the Night.
 
GiveMeTheMusic

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doctornick said:
Well, they announced MSEP was leaving months ago -- what have they been doing all this time? They've had time to get a replacement by the summer if they were actually motivated.
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This.

TDO did this to themselves. Their inability to make decisions or operate their theme parks effectively has caught up with them. Honestly, I expected a lot more of Kalogridis, who is no dummy. I don't know what's in the water down there, but it must be contagious.
 
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Donaldfan1934 said:
I agree with you, but it should've happened by the turn of the decade instead of letting it stick around to kill off Spectromagic and possibly Paint the Night.
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DLR had a Golden opportunity in 2010 to move it to DL from DCA so it could kill several birds with one stone.

WOC opened at DCA
DL's 55th
C!ASP on the Parade route: POD was long gone, Soundsational wasn't there yet.

I wonder who really told MSEP/DEP where to go back then? Spectro wasn't in that bad of shape. Had DL done a 55th gift, We might have Spectro now!

As for PTN It's way too young(I think) to have Spectro's after 2010 fate. I gotta believe it will be used ...somewhere. I'm glad the rumor that TDO might be looking into this still out there. Who knows?
 
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TTA94

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Is it really true that some of the PTN floats would not fit, be able to make some of the turns, on MKs parade route? Or was that just coming from someone who doesn't want PTN at MK? Lol.
 
Donaldfan1934

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jrhwdw said:
DLR had a Golden opportunity in 2010 to move it to DL from DCA so it could kill several birds with one stone.

WOC opened at DCA
DL's 55th
C!ASP on the Parade route: POD was long gone, Soundsational wasn't there yet.

I wonder who really told MSEP/DEP where to go back then? Spectro wasn't in that bad of shape. Had DL done a 55th gift, We might have Spectro now!

As for PTN It's way too young(I think) to have Spectro's after 2010 fate. I gotta believe it will be used ...somewhere. I'm glad the rumor that TDO might be looking into this still out there. Who knows?
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The DCA to DL transition in 2010 was exactly what I was thinking of too when I wrote my comment. I agree that Paint the Night will likely go somewhere else, but it's still a massive blight on their record to have a state of the art parade for a little over a year only to replace it with a 45 year old dinosaur of a parade that can barely finish its route.
 
PREMiERdrum

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mnelson3 said:
Is it really true that some of the PTN floats would not fit, be able to make some of the turns, on MKs parade route? Or was that just coming from someone who doesn't want PTN at MK? Lol.
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Mack could present some challenges on the bridge. I was looking at the float dimensions this morning... I'd argue it's doable, but tight.

Edit to add: Mack is 58' long and 18' high.
 
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HMF

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Figments Friend said:
As someone who has seen Paint The Night several times in person at Disneyland, I can honestly say that yes....this is indeed a rather accurate description.
It is indeed a 'rave party in the middle of the Magic Kingdom'.
Some like that excitement, some prefer otherwise.

I personally like PTNs impressive light technology, but it feels somewhat soulless to me.
It is also a Pixar encrusted affair, which for some ( self included ) takes away some of the potential appeal.

It is however fun to see in person though, as the Cast costumes and a few of the non-Pixar related floats are quite stunning ( New Drum, Princess Unit, etc. )
Some neat design work and clever trickery.

I'm an old fart though...and adore the original 'old school' mid-70s incarnation of the good ol' MSEP.
PTN sure is pretty to look at, but something is 'missing' to me.
Oh...and way too much Pixar. Rubs me the wrong way.

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I know it won't happen but the smart thing to do would be to ship MSEP back to Magic Kingdom after it's run in Disneyland.
 
TTA94

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I believe someone brought up that MKs sounds system would need to be changed/updated for PTN?

Also, while it's not that important, both DL and HKDL have parade route lighting where the lights sync to the intro of PTN.. MK does not have this. with the exception of the hub light towers which may or may not be capable of syncing with the music. I don't see them installing lights along the rest of the route just for PTN lol. HKDL has the best lighting for their PTN intro:

 
PREMiERdrum

PREMiERdrum

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mnelson3 said:
I believe someone brought up that MKs sounds system would need to be changed/updated for PTN?

Also, while it's not that important, both DL and HKDL have parade route lighting where the lights sync to the intro of PTN.. MK does not have this. with the exception of the hub light towers which may or may not be capable of syncing with the music. I don't see them installing lights along the rest of the route just for PTN lol. HKDL has the best lighting for their PTN intro.
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Sound upgrades would be nice, but not necessarily required, for PTN. The phasing division would be zoned similarly, though upgrading the rest of the route's hardware to the speakers used in the new hub would be appreciated.

I don't see them sweating the lighting situation at this point. The new hub instruments could theoretically wash the route with colors that change in sync to the music, there aren't nearly enough instruments to do anything close to the staggered-spot effect achieved at HKDL.
 
Sped2424

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
This.

TDO did this to themselves. Their inability to make decisions or operate their theme parks effectively has caught up with them. Honestly, I expected a lot more of Kalogridis, who is no dummy. I don't know what's in the water down there, but it must be contagious.
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I'm not saying it is but could the situation perhaps be out of his hands? Does he have the power to greenlight fully a new night parade? (Serious question). If he does then I agree this is beyond sad.
 
TTA94

TTA94

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DL does sound very serious about the June 18th end date of MSEP. If PTN does end up at WDW this will once again leave DL with no light parade... So with that the question would be why would DL want that to happen to them, again? I guess it will come down to which coast the suits feel needs a light parade and which one can do without.
 

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