TP2000
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Did they rename Cucina Cucamonga to Yaki Tacos in this cheap and lazy food court retheme?
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Did they rename Cucina Cucamonga to Yaki Tacos in this cheap and lazy food court retheme?
Disney Irish
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Not that I'm aware of, but that doesn't matter, its easy to add to the Big Hero 6 world a restaurant called Cucina Cucamonga.
Point was they do have a Mexican style restaurant in the franchise today. So its not unusual or out of place in the world they are building with this retheme.
TP2000
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It's amazing what a Miniature Golf torii gate and a big order of red patio lights from Party City can do for a food court, isn't it?
PiratesMansion
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It's a fusion of US/Japanese sensibilities.
There's a lot of Mexican food in the US and yes, in San Francisco too.
I can vouch for that myself, I was just there three weeks ago!
TP2000
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I get that, I've been to San Francisco many times myself.
But I'm talking about the movie Big Hero 6 that this new "land" is based on.
According to the movie, San Fransokyo is a fusion of American and Japanese cultures. Not Mexican and Japanese cultures. There aren't any signs in Spanish or shops selling Mexican food or wares in the movie Big Hero 6, there is only stuff in English and Japanese. Heavy on the Japanese though, to make the point that it's Japanese.
Let's be honest here, this is a cheap and easy remake of a theme park food court. But they don't want to close (or God forbid relocate) the park's only permanent Mexican restaurant, and they can't cancel the sponsorship with Boudin or Ghirardelli, so they still have to sell hearty sourdough bread that the Scotch-Irish '49'ers brought with them over the Sierras instead of delicate Japanese milk bread, and they still have to sell gazillion calorie American ice cream sundaes instead of light Japanese mochi.
This version of San Fransokyo in DCA is just so eye-rollingly cheap and thinly themed. I'm embarrassed for them. And I have no idea why they even made it such a big deal about it at D23 Expo.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Mexican food is ubiquitous in America and specifically in this context California, and has been for a long time. So I'm not sure why you are arguing that Mexican food of some variation would be out of place in San Fransokyo. As I've post before Yaki Tacos is a part of the Big Hero 6 world. It is a favorite food for one of the main characters, Fred, and is referenced many times in the spin-off Big Hero 6 series which is also part of this retheme.I get that, I've been to San Francisco many times myself.
But I'm talking about the movie Big Hero 6 that this new "land" is based on.
According to the movie, San Fransokyo is a fusion of American and Japanese cultures. Not Mexican and Japanese cultures. There aren't any signs in Spanish or shops selling Mexican food or wares in the movie Big Hero 6, there is only stuff in English and Japanese. Heavy on the Japanese though, to make the point that it's Japanese.
Let's be honest here, this is a cheap and easy remake of a theme park food court. But they don't want to close (or God forbid relocate) the park's only permanent Mexican restaurant, and they can't cancel the sponsorship with Boudin or Ghirardelli, so they still have to sell hearty sourdough bread that the Scotch-Irish '49'ers brought with them over the Sierras instead of delicate Japanese milk bread, and they still have to sell gazillion calorie American ice cream sundaes instead of light Japanese mochi.
This version of San Fransokyo in DCA is just so eye-rollingly cheap and thinly themed. I'm embarrassed for them. And I have no idea why they even made it such a big deal about it at D23 Expo.
waltography
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Just gonna say that I tried the new Lucky Fortune Cookery menu the other day and thought the Chicken Karaage Sandwich was a winner for sure. So flavorful and crispy (which surprised me since chicken sandwiches can be hit or miss), and the togarashi mayo was delicious. The Beef Birria Ramen was less of a win (I'm kind of over the birria-anything at DLR) but still pretty good (and was the more popular of the two for sure as they'd run out of the ramen at one point). The Baymax macaron was great too.
I think the menu was a solid improvement here for sure.
I think the menu was a solid improvement here for sure.
PiratesMansion
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You seem determined to be mad about nothing.I get that, I've been to San Francisco many times myself.
But I'm talking about the movie Big Hero 6 that this new "land" is based on.
According to the movie, San Fransokyo is a fusion of American and Japanese cultures. Not Mexican and Japanese cultures. There aren't any signs in Spanish or shops selling Mexican food or wares in the movie Big Hero 6, there is only stuff in English and Japanese. Heavy on the Japanese though, to make the point that it's Japanese.
Let's be honest here, this is a cheap and easy remake of a theme park food court. But they don't want to close (or God forbid relocate) the park's only permanent Mexican restaurant, and they can't cancel the sponsorship with Boudin or Ghirardelli, so they still have to sell hearty sourdough bread that the Scotch-Irish '49'ers brought with them over the Sierras instead of delicate Japanese milk bread, and they still have to sell gazillion calorie American ice cream sundaes instead of light Japanese mochi.
This version of San Fransokyo in DCA is just so eye-rollingly cheap and thinly themed. I'm embarrassed for them. And I have no idea why they even made it such a big deal about it at D23 Expo.
And Mexican food is in Japan too! And I'm not talking Americanized theme parks, I'm talking genuine Mexican restaurants I've eaten at in Kyoto and Hiroshima. Both Americans and Japanese know what Mexican food is, and so it makes sense that it would exist in their hybrid city.
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Disney Irish
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Not to mention that the whole premise of the Big Hero 6 world is that its an alternate history where the Japanese rebuilt San Francisco after the 1906 earthquake. Other parts of California history still exists. Mexico still signed the treaty with the US in 1848 to have California as part of the US. And so whole Hispanic culture and history of California would still be present even in this alternate version of San Fransokyo.
lazyboy97o
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Do they have tacos in Scranton? I’m just not sure? How could I ever find out? Maybe I’ll do some research.
TP2000
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For cheap remakes made with a $500 gift card to Party City, I'm not mad, just saddened that this is how low they've fallen now.
TP2000
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So you guys are all excited about this nonsensical food court remake? You think this is the wonderful future of the Disneyland Resort?
Cause I think this is silly and dumb. And cheap. And also Mexico is not Japan. But apparently I'm the only one who can tell the difference.
But if this excites you as the big addition to DCA instead of the family water ride and the E Ticket coaster and the rebuild of Hyperion Theatre and the entire Hollywood Backlot into a fully fledged themed land, then go for it and have the tacos that were never in Big Hero 6.
And then, for only a $29 upcharge you can get a bottle of Coke and wait on this cement pad for your seat for Rogers The Musical...
You're immersed, right? You love it, don't you? You're lucky TDA even lets you experience such pampering, right?
Cause I think this is silly and dumb. And cheap. And also Mexico is not Japan. But apparently I'm the only one who can tell the difference.
But if this excites you as the big addition to DCA instead of the family water ride and the E Ticket coaster and the rebuild of Hyperion Theatre and the entire Hollywood Backlot into a fully fledged themed land, then go for it and have the tacos that were never in Big Hero 6.
And then, for only a $29 upcharge you can get a bottle of Coke and wait on this cement pad for your seat for Rogers The Musical...
You're immersed, right? You love it, don't you? You're lucky TDA even lets you experience such pampering, right?
PiratesMansion
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There's a difference between being mad about the overlay in general (which I'd argue is more pointless than outright bad, at least based on the way the area looks from the past few days, but is at least a logical viewpoint to have), and being mad about something you completely made up (which food does or does not belong in San Fransokyo, based on your Googled interpretation of a movie you clearly have never watched).
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TP2000
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If you are okay with Japanese burritos that were never in the movie this is allegedly themed around, that's awesome.
I imagine you'd then also be fine with German bratwurst at Rancho Del Zocalo and Korean barbecue at Wine Country Trattoria.
I'm also reminded of the last time I went to Six Flags Magic Mountain two decades ago babysitting young nephews, and laughed my butt off that they had a Panda Express in their "Baja Ridge' area, with mariachi music playing on the Panda Express patio. Because... who cares about the stupid audience, right?
Baja Mexico "architecture" in Baja Ridge celebrating Chinese food. Plus pandas: Only from the brain trust at Six Flags.
But I can see this San Fransokyo gimmick for what it is; a cheap and lazy retheme of an existing food court without actually changing the restaurants or spending much money. This is just overdue paint, a bunch of patio lanterns and a faux bridge, and a few easy menu changes.
lazyboy97o
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It's amazing how a picture of one of the six Big Heroes holding a taco is somehow insufficient evidence that tacos are part of the Big Hero 6 world. Why pretend to be that dumb?
I'd be happy with Korean barbecue anywhere.
Food review. Looking forward to the chicken!
..."My favorite item of the taste test was the Karaage-inspired chicken sandwich on a potato bun. I would definitely order the juicy chicken sandwich again.
"I know, I know. Not a very bold choice going with the chicken sandwich. But from a taste and flavor standpoint, it was the clear winner.
"The fried chicken was fantastic with a nice spice level without the heat — perfect for a theme park crowd. A dollop of slaw and the Togarashi mayonnaise also helped keep my taste buds cool." ...
6 things you must eat in Disneyland’s San Fransokyo Square — and 3 you should definitely skip
Disneyland taste tested nine San Fransokyo Square menu items coming to the new ‘Big Hero 6’-themed food court at Disney California Adventure.
www.ocregister.com
CaptinEO
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It just to me seemed like a good opportunity to have more asian foods in the park. Instead the sole asian restaurant in DCA is now asian mexican fusion.
In general I'm getting bored of DLR doing fusion food for all their new offerings be it a land or a festival.
"Look at this pizza that's actually a burrito".
Like theres room for fusion food but it shouldnt be the only offering. I guess whatever is flashiest for social media is what ends up winning.
did you really "laugh your butt off"? You really sat down and started laughing because you thought that it was that funny?If you are okay with Japanese burritos that were never in the movie this is allegedly themed around, that's awesome.
I imagine you'd then also be fine with German bratwurst at Rancho Del Zocalo and Korean barbecue at Wine Country Trattoria.
I'm also reminded of the last time I went to Six Flags Magic Mountain two decades ago babysitting young nephews, and laughed my butt off that they had a Panda Express in their "Baja Ridge' area, with mariachi music playing on the Panda Express patio. Because... who cares about the stupid audience, right?
Baja Mexico "architecture" in Baja Ridge celebrating Chinese food. Plus pandas: Only from the brain trust at Six Flags.
But I can see this San Fransokyo gimmick for what it is; a cheap and lazy retheme of an existing food court without actually changing the restaurants or spending much money. This is just overdue paint, a bunch of patio lanterns and a faux bridge, and a few easy menu changes.
Also we all are aware this is a cheap retheme and paint. We all know there are no rides or anthing coming, its literally just paint, new food, a meet n greet and some lanterns/bridge theming. Nobody here is saying this is major....please calm down you sound like the type of person that loves to complain about everything
CaptinEO
Well-Known Member
I'm complaining too. DCA was becoming a very good park before cheap rethemes like this, Hero Campus, and Pixar Pier became the norm.
Also Disneyland food used to be much more than flashy fusion items meant for 20 year olds to pretend they are foodies.
The fact San Frantokyo has a taco restaurant but they couldn't be fussed to rename the existing Mexican restaurant there speaks volumes to how cheap this is.
I get the point you're trying to make but there is a fair amount of German influence in Mexico. Where do you think the norteño oom-pah music came from?
And I agree that if they could rename the Boudin restaurant they could rename the Cocina. Especially since the name Cucamonga is from a SoCal Native village and not remotely Spanish.
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