News Pacific Wharf to be Reimagined into San Fransokyo

PiratesMansion

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Well there's also the new toontown with mmrr about to open in DL, and the upcoming avengers e ticket which will probably be pretty awesome...hopefully. I feel like both resorts are getting substantial progress for the better
New Toontown is exceedingly generous. It looks very much like a refurbished version of old where MMRR and maybe a lighly redone Roger Rabbit are the main differentiators from the past.

MMRR will be open in less than a month, shortly thereafter followed by Magic Happens, Toontown proper (again, more of a glorified paint job than a thorough top to bottom redo), the Treehouse shortly thereafter. Oh, and because there's a new Indiana Jones movie coming, they'll fix Indy.

Then what?

People keep talking about this Avengers E-Ticket, but when is it coming? Where is the proof that it's something we can think about and anticipate in any tangible way other than hearing "it's coming...it's coming...it got delayed again" every year or so? I've done all of the Marvel attractions that didn't open in the past year, and I have to say that Mission Breakout is the best of them by quite a lot, and many people would argue that MB isn't without flaws itself. Not one of the other Marvel attractions has really worked for me, and the land is pretty much a dud. So I have no expectations that Marvel will mean anything positive for me personally, or that this will be amazing simply because it's been talked about for a long time.

Universal, meanwhile, is building two new parks and appears to be genuinely trying to improve their theme park experience. It feels like they have a concrete vision for their future. What's Disney's? Turn Grizzly Peak into Brother Bear Land in three years just because it kinda sorta fits if you squint? Hope that we'll give them the benefit of the doubt because suddenly they're not charging for parking at WDW hotels anymore?
 
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mickEblu

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It’s a lateral move. So I don’t think there’s any reason to really be excited?

But I think the bridge will look really nice, and it kind of pays homage to original DCA in a way. It will make a good little weenie for Instagram photos etc.

I’m not sure about it being a lateral move. The bridge will ruin the vista of the Pier/ Pal Around from anyone walking down the main artery from the entrance of the park. I’d imagine Pacific Wharf Cafe and Ghirardelli are staying but if either are removed that would be bad.

It’s sad to me that they don’t think about these kind of things anymore. Ruining the vista of the pier just to IP-ify a food court. SMH
 
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Disney Analyst

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I’m not sure about it being a lateral move. The bridge will ruin the vista of the Pier/ Pal Around from anyone waking down the main artery from the entrance of the park. I’d imagine Pacific Wharf Cafe and Ghirardelli are staying but if either are removed that would be bad.

It’s sad to me that they don’t think about these kind of things anymore. Ruining the vista of the pier just to IP-ify a food court. SMH

I don’t mind so much. It will help break things up.

You’ll still see the wheel peaking through and above, but it adds more layers and intrigue to the design. Adds the feeling of discovery around the corner versus being able to see everything in one shot.

So I guess I think the taller bridge weenie is a plus from a design stand point, but still just a lateral move for me.
 

mickEblu

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I don’t mind so much. It will help break things up.

You’ll still see the wheel peaking through and above, but it adds more layers and intrigue to the design. Adds the feeling of discovery around the corner versus being able to see everything in one shot.

So I guess I think the taller bridge weenie is a plus from a design stand point, but still just a lateral move for me.

It’s not “around the corner” though. It’s literally just obstructing a beautiful vista. In an of itself I guess it’s something more interesting to look at but as a whole I think it’s a step backward.
 

PiratesMansion

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I don’t mind so much. It will help break things up.

You’ll still see the wheel peaking through and above, but it adds more layers and intrigue to the design. Adds the feeling of discovery around the corner versus being able to see everything in one shot.

So I guess I think the taller bridge weenie is a plus from a design stand point, but still just a lateral move for me.
For me it's a lateral move at best.

It just looks more and more to me like they want to basically recreate DCA of 2001, but with IP and a much higher budget. That's their right, I suppose-their park, after all-but I was a big fan of DCA from 2013-2015, when it felt like they were really trying to make it a better place. Then 2016 hit and everything they've done since has served only to make me aggressively uninterested in the place. This is doing nothing to reverse the trend.
 

J4546

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New Toontown is exceedingly generous. It looks very much like a refurbished version of old where MMRR and maybe a lighly redone Roger Rabbit are the main differentiators from the past.

MMRR will be open in less than a month, shortly thereafter followed by Magic Happens, Toontown proper (again, more of a glorified paint job than a thorough top to bottom redo), the Treehouse shortly thereafter. Oh, and because there's a new Indiana Jones movie coming, they'll fix Indy.

Then what?

People keep talking about this Avengers E-Ticket, but when is it coming? Where is the proof that it's something we can think about and anticipate in any tangible way other than hearing "it's coming...it's coming...it got delayed again" every year or so? I've done all of the Marvel attractions that didn't open in the past year, and I have to say that Mission Breakout is the best of them by quite a lot, and many people would argue that MB isn't without flaws itself. Not one of the other Marvel attractions has really worked for me, and the land is pretty much a dud. So I have no expectations that Marvel will mean anything positive for me personally, or that this will be amazing simply because it's been talked about for a long time.

Universal, meanwhile, is building two new parks and appears to be genuinely trying to improve their theme park experience. It feels like they have a concrete vision for their future. What's Disney's? Turn Grizzly Peak into Brother Bear Land in three years just because it kinda sorta fits if you squint? Hope that we'll give them the benefit of the doubt because suddenly they're not charging for parking at WDW anymore?
I don't consider the TT redo a small thing. It's quite extensive imo. Almost everything in the land if not everything has been refreshed or rebuilt or repurposed or outright redone entirely.

I'm pretty sure the Avengers e ticket is a major priority and yes it's been delayed but the main actor from the movie died so....there's kind of an excuse for delays and redo imo.

Also new hotel and downtown Disney expansion being constructed as well.

It seems like a lot of the major investment is in Paris for the next couple years with new frozen area and lake, and the massive expansion and retheme of the disney village.

I guess we will see soon enough though. Hopefully there's something major for all 4 FL parks announced in the next couple years.
 

D.Silentu

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Eagle eyed guests may notice the lack of details in said announcement, for instance whether Boudin or Ghirardelli will remain. Wasn't there supposed to be a new cafe based on a movie location, or something like that?
 

Rich T

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I don't consider the TT redo a small thing. It's quite extensive imo. Almost everything in the land if not everything has been refreshed or rebuilt or repurposed or outright redone entirely.

I'm pretty sure the Avengers e ticket is a major priority and yes it's been delayed but the main actor from the movie died so....there's kind of an excuse for delays and redo imo.

Also new hotel and downtown Disney expansion being constructed as well.

It seems like a lot of the major investment is in Paris for the next couple years with new frozen area and lake, and the massive expansion and retheme of the disney village.

I guess we will see soon enough though. Hopefully there's something major for all 4 FL parks announced in the next couple years.
The Toontown makeover is primarily aimed at preschoolers, which is why there’s not a lot of enthusiasm about it among the GP, but hopefully it’ll be an aesthetic improvement. I’m personally not a huge fan of MMRR, but it’ll be a nice addition to the park’s ride lineup.

Avengers… we’ll see. Fingers crossed!
 

Californian Elitist

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It’s a lateral move. So I don’t think there’s any reason to really be excited?

But I think the bridge will look really nice, and it kind of pays homage to original DCA in a way. It will make a good little weenie for Instagram photos etc.

If there was a ride attached to it, then I could see some excitement but there's...nothing? A meet and greet? It's just a pointless move tbh.

I love BH6

I also think this change is pointless and a waste of time and money.
Same.

Just making sure.
 

DCBaker

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New casting call out for Hiro Hamada -

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