At least we haven't been Godwin'd. Yet.So the thread went from the final showing of Osborne to debating about Religion at Walt Disney World
I will miss the lights like you will, they have been a family tradition for muliple generations (see my daughter's note to Disney posted in this thread). It's just not as simple as moving them elsewhere. We have debated the different park, Springs, and resort options on here, and they would either be a thematic clash or crowd nightmare in all cases. Yes WDW is a big place, but they can't just plop this down anywhere they want to make us happy.You obviously don't get it addition through subtraction doesn't work in this case.........The whole point is there is no reason we can't be promised replacement or relocation of the lights and also have Star Wars. There should be no choosing one or the other this is Disney where dreams supposedly come true. Your mentality is flawed. If you loved the lights dearly and will miss them why wouldn't you be taking my stance as we want our lights. Yes having just Star Wars is a consolation prize compared to having Star Wars and lights. If you believe this is the only option you are sadly mistaken. It's the easy way out in my opinion. So ToT puts a smile on your face as it does mine. If they were tearing that down would you stand for it? I sure the hell wouldn't. You either care about the lights or you don't really care about the lights. You seem to fall into the smaller latter group. Or are you part of the third group that wants to believe every decision made by the almighty Disney is for the best? Sorry but this one isn't.
You obviously don't get it addition through subtraction doesn't work in this case.........The whole point is there is no reason we can't be promised replacement or relocation of the lights and also have Star Wars. There should be no choosing one or the other this is Disney where dreams supposedly come true. Your mentality is flawed. If you loved the lights dearly and will miss them why wouldn't you be taking my stance as we want our lights. Yes having just Star Wars is a consolation prize compared to having Star Wars and lights. If you believe this is the only option you are sadly mistaken. It's the easy way out in my opinion. So ToT puts a smile on your face as it does mine. If they were tearing that down would you stand for it? I sure the hell wouldn't. You either care about the lights or you don't really care about the lights. You seem to fall into the smaller latter group. Or are you part of the third group that wants to believe every decision made by the almighty Disney is for the best? Sorry but this one isn't.
\. We can only hope they bring something back in the future or find another way to add some Christmas offerings, as this will be missed.
Unreasonable is ending a 20 year tradition with no plans for replacement.You seem to be unreasonable about what is only a seasonal offering in a terrible park.
I'm sorry that Disney is finally making an effort to improve the quality of DHS? I don't know what to tell you here.
Because things aren't built and they aren't sure of how it will work operationally?This is the point, if they can promise Toy story Land and Star Wars Land why can't they promise the lights returning? Disney is certainly capable of this. Some of you keep saying this will be missed but.... Obviously it would be hard to present the lights in 2016 or 17 but you obviously didn't read my previous mock quote from Disney I wrote. That is what we should be looking for.
Geez, if your this upset about a light show ending, i'd hate to see you if you got mad about something that actually truly mattered.Unreasonable is ending a 20 year tradition with no plans for replacement.
Say what you will about my "execution" but at least I'm executing at all. You seem to still be in the thread which means 1. You care about the Osborne lights being over or 2. You are here for no apparent reason. If it is for the former which I would hope so please tell me what better way to go about this.Lighten up, Francis.
Your passion is awesome. Execution, not so much.
Disney can design something any way they want to accommodate any amount of people. And I wish that was a hidden message but until they tell me so I have no reason to believe it.Because things aren't built and they aren't sure of how it will work operationally?
You need to actually be walking through these spaces and know guest flow patterns before you can make a decision on something that will draw such large crowds. You should take solace in the fact that they played the Mickey Mouse "Now it's time to say goodbye" song that, in the middle, says "see ya real soon". Maybe that's a sort of subliminal messaging that it's not gone forever, just for now.
Say what you will about my "execution" but at least I'm executing at all. You seem to still be in the thread which means 1. You care about the Osborne lights being over or 2. You are here for no apparent reason. If it is for the former which I would hope so please tell me what better way to go about this.
Look, I don't want to argue. You seem passionate about this and we're still less than 2 days out from the final moments of the closing.Disney can design something any way they want to accommodate any amount of people. And I wish that was a hidden message but until they tell me so I have no reason to believe it.
Again, appreciate your passion.
I guess I feel like I don't have the authority to dictate their attraction lineup. Obviously I'd love to have a say, who wouldn't.? But I don't feel it's my place to be calling them up angrily yelling "where's MY LIGHTS going!?"
Hopefully some day you will be able to enjoy the redesigned park, with 2 new lands and several more new attractions when it is completed.
And hopefully it will include a new seasonal holiday attraction to enjoy a couple of months out of the year.
You seem to be lashing out at everyone who dares to say they don't see things the same as you, that's the execution issue. That's not adding anything to the conversation and makes conversing with you uncomfortable. Telling someone that they are here for no reason is writing off their opinion as invalid.
You've been told many time over now that folk respect your opinion, and asked to calm down. I have yet to see you respond in kind.
Are you discussing the topic with us, or are you demanding we see this your way?
This is a good response, this is what I'm looking for. I have already done this and everyone needs to do this. I do realize that they may not announce something right away but this is what needs to be done to make sure they do. Did you plan on emailing or calling?Look, I don't want to argue. You seem passionate about this and we're still less than 2 days out from the final moments of the closing.
I think you need to just take some time to digest the fact that they are gone and realize that Disney isn't going to announce something new for the holidays right away. Just give it some time is all I ask.
If you really want to try to make your voice heard, send an e-mail to all top Disney execs in Parks & Resorts and let them know how you feel. Sure it may get tossed aside, but if enough people e-mail, plus attendance likely to fall off at DHS during holidays this year, maybe you CAN help change what they do in the future regarding the lights and such.
Lighten up, Francis.
Your passion is awesome. Execution, not so much.
I think a more calm version of what they're trying to say is that if WDW really wanted to, they could keep the lights and relocate them. I can realistically see a couple year hiatus of sorts and secretly hope and pray they come back in some form or another once things have calmed a little at DHS in terms of construction.
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