Orlando Gunman Scouted WDW ...

[Magic Feather]

I am betting that this will leads to the implementation of bag checks and metal detector screenings at Disney Springs, considering that (per the article) Disney Springs and Pulse were the two places that the shooter was targeting.

 

[WDW1974]

NBC News, The Drudge Report and Deadline are all reporting this.

 

[Unplugged]

Quick thought on "people burying their head in the sand". Most people in this country know we cannot and will not stay home and lock the doors in fear. But a lot of people choose not to read or follow some of these domestic terrorist stories so they intentionally avoid the potential fear and can go on with their lives. We do need to band together as a society, a country, and a community to help those impacted and to work to avoid future acts such as this. But at the same time, we need to be careful not to get so emotional about it that we do begin to live in fear.

 

[ABQ]

NBC News, The Drudge Report and Deadline are all reporting this.

NBC is being very cautious in their wording though.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/orlando-gunman-may-have-had-plans-disney-world-attack-n591236

The FBI is investigating whether the gunman, Omar Mateen, may have traveled to Disney World to plan an attack there, according to two law enforcement sources.

One source said it was "pre-operational," meaning Mateen had not yet developed a plan. A second source was less certain that he had even gotten that far, adding that there is a possibility it was simply a social visit.

Investigators are reviewing all aspects of the suspect's travel.

 

[dizneycrazy09]

NBC is being very cautious in their wording though.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/orlando-gunman-may-have-had-plans-disney-world-attack-n591236

The FBI is investigating whether the gunman, Omar Mateen, may have traveled to Disney World to plan an attack there, according to two law enforcement sources.

One source said it was "pre-operational," meaning Mateen had not yet developed a plan. A second source was less certain that he had even gotten that far, adding that there is a possibility it was simply a social visit.

Investigators are reviewing all aspects of the suspect's travel.

The headline says everything - doesn't matter how carefully they word the actual story.

 

[WDW1974]

I am betting that this will leads to the implementation of bag checks and metal detector screenings at Disney Springs, considering that (per the article) Disney Springs and Pulse were the two places that the shooter was targeting.

And all that will do is scare away business and do nothing to prevent anyone committed to creating destruction.

We live in a nation where we allow the TSA to do everything short of raping the public to get on planes, yet admits that between 75-90% of the time when they attempt to test their workers by smuggling weapons through, they get through. Yet, if you simply went back to pre 9/11 security, so many sheep would act like you opened the gates for evildoers everywhere.

Terror, hate, proliferation of weapons in this country, mental illness ... and about another 7-8 reasons are the core of why these things happen. It's happening in this case. People want to jump on the fact the monster allegedly pledged allegiance to ISIS. They don't seem to care much that his guns were obtained legally and AFTER the FBI interviewed him three times because if that doesn't show our 'system' (whatever that means) is fundamentally flawed, then I don't know what is. I don't care if ''he would have gotten them another way" ... No. 1: we don't know that at all; No. 2: why not make it as tough as possible for evildoers to obtain weapons?

 

[wishiwere@wdw]

He was apparently at Downtown Disney as recently as April according to this article.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/1...ent-into-islamic-terror-comes-into-focus.html

 

[GhostHost1000]

bag check and metal detectors at the bus stops (either at the resorts themselves or at the parks as soon as they get dropped off0

bag check and metal detectors at the parking lot entrance (off the trams or for those walking)

bag check and metal detectors for main entrance walking paths and boat exits to parks

bag check and metal detectors for main entrances (boat dock, walking path, and bus entrance) to Disney Springs

I just got back and I'm telling you I had an uneasy feeling seeing so many people lined up a mass wad at MK for bag check and entrance...that's unfortunately a bad situation before security is even implemented

 

[MrHappy]

Of course the media will make this leap and go with "sources" had WDW as an option for the attacker. It's too perfect for these outlets to bring Disney into the picture when a night club in Orlando was attacked. They got to keep viewership/readership, bring Disney in for today and they'll be good. Who knows what "sources" will say tomorrow. No place is going to be safe, sure. But this was an expected angle for ratings that lacks depth and credibility. Just look how ABQ above quoted NBC - just a lot of nothing.

 

[Frankie The Beer]

I am betting that this will leads to the implementation of bag checks and metal detector screenings at Disney Springs, considering that (per the article) Disney Springs and Pulse were the two places that the shooter was targeting.

I doubt it.

NBC is being very cautious in their wording though.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/orlando-gunman-may-have-had-plans-disney-world-attack-n591236

The FBI is investigating whether the gunman, Omar Mateen, may have traveled to Disney World to plan an attack there, according to two law enforcement sources.

One source said it was "pre-operational," meaning Mateen had not yet developed a plan. A second source was less certain that he had even gotten that far, adding that there is a possibility it was simply a social visit.

Investigators are reviewing all aspects of the suspect's travel.

How can anyone who commits such a heinous act not be investigated for possibly attacking the theme parks in Orlando? This is one of those Captain Obvious stories, people are just doing what terrorism causes, make excuses and point blame and fear monger. This act was going to happen no matter what.

 

[MrHappy]

He was apparently at Downtown Disney as recently as April according to this article.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/1...ent-into-islamic-terror-comes-into-focus.html

...and?
Just lazy reporting.

 

[WDW1974]

NBC is being very cautious in their wording though.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/orlando-gunman-may-have-had-plans-disney-world-attack-n591236

The FBI is investigating whether the gunman, Omar Mateen, may have traveled to Disney World to plan an attack there, according to two law enforcement sources.

One source said it was "pre-operational," meaning Mateen had not yet developed a plan. A second source was less certain that he had even gotten that far, adding that there is a possibility it was simply a social visit.

Investigators are reviewing all aspects of the suspect's travel.

Of course they are. That is how a news organization should go about a situation like this. They do realize what's at stake. You want to report the news, but you don't want to panic people and help destroy an economy. And you can bet that Disney is doing all it can to not have this brought out because its business is dependent on people not being afraid of visiting.

You have to report the news. It's just that simple.

 

[DisneyGigi]

Security was so ramped up when were there in May. I figured because of Invictus Games. I do remember thinking the way it backs up so much getting in now, before you get to checkpoints if something happened? Such a sad society we live in that we have to worry about things like this. It won't keep me from going though. To Disney or anywhere else.Terrorists and evil people thrive on creating fear and chaos. Prayers to all of the families that lost loved ones.

 

[GhostHost1000]

let's be clear... when they mention WDW as a target... there was mention of Downtown Disney/Disney Springs... not the theme parks themselves. It mentions that is the place no security checks are at.... so get ready folks it's coming there too

 

[GhostHost1000]

Security was so ramped up when were there in May. I figured because of Invictus Games. I do remember thinking the way it backs up so much getting in now, before you get to checkpoints if something happened? Such a sad society we live in that we have to worry about things like this. It won't keep me from going though. To Disney or anywhere else.Terrorists and evil people thrive on creating fear and chaos. Prayers to all of the families that lost loved ones.

I had never seen so many security folks the past week and a half than I had on all previous trips probably combined... and that's not counting the "civilian" ones

 

[NelsonRD]

You are so much more likely to die because someone is driving while drunk or distracted then you ever are from terrorism. That's a simple fact. The proliferation of weapons of mass destruction that can be obtained legally in this country, even when the FBI has interviewed the individual three times is something else. That's something that we as a society need to decide whether we are OK with ... and as shootings at elementary schools and churches have shown, we seem to be fine with living in this type of society. I'm not. I have now been to 28 countries I believe (with 29 coming up soon) and I don't ever feel as unsafe as I do simply driving in FL ... in a mall in FL ... in my neighborhood (which is pretty affluent and has its own security) because people are angry, on drugs, mentally unstable and so many possess weapons, legally I'll add.

It starts with removing participation trophies in school. We are placating our children that they are so precious, that they do not know how to fail, so when they do not get their way, the only way they know how to react is with anger and revenge, shooting up schools.

We also need to reduce the amount of litigation in this country. Constant commercials from lawyers asking you if you have been wronged, and they will take care of it for you, in also adding to this special entitled community.

We need to be tough, and make decisions based on right and wrong, not making decisions on how it affects our precious feelings.

 

[WDW1974]

bag check and metal detectors at the bus stops (either at the resorts themselves or at the parks as soon as they get dropped off0

bag check and metal detectors at the parking lot entrance (off the trams or for those walking)

bag check and metal detectors for main entrance walking paths and boat exits to parks

bag check and metal detectors for main entrances (boat dock, walking path, and bus entrance) to Disney Springs

I just got back and I'm telling you I had an uneasy feeling seeing so many people lined up a mass wad at MK for bag check and entrance...that's unfortunately a bad situation before security is even implemented

You realize how ridiculous that would be, right?
You realize it wouldn't make anyone safer, but would totally destroy the whole point of vacation, right?
You do get how unworkable it would be under any circumstances, right?
You do realize that even if you did that, what would stop someone from attacking an entrance with security and metal detectors?

You do realize that WDW's business is destroyed with one mass casualty attack, even if its in the parking lot of one of DD's hotels, right?

You are never safe. Just a sad fact of life.

 

[MrHappy]

let's be clear... when they mention WDW as a target... there was mention of Downtown Disney/Disney Springs... not the theme parks themselves. It mentions that is the place no security checks are at.... so get ready folks it's coming there too

...and to add. Downtown Disney/Disney Springs was not reported as a target (at least in the Fox article linked earlier), Just that he visited Downtown Disney in April. You can make the leap that he was scouting it out as much as he just wanted to try the Hangar bar. I'm sure he visited many places in Orlando. But saying Publix doesn't have the same ring as Disney.

 

[GhostHost1000]

You realize how ridiculous that would be, right?
You realize it wouldn't make anyone safer, but would totally destroy the whole point of vacation, right?
You do get how unworkable it would be under any circumstances, right?
You do realize that even if you did that, what would stop someone from attacking an entrance with security and metal detectors?

You do realize that WDW's business is destroyed with one mass casualty attack, even if its in the parking lot of one of DD's hotels, right?

You are never safe. Just a sad fact of life.

ridiculous yes, would it stop something from happening no.... but "could" at least help save a lot of lives

my point was mainly based on what I just witnessed on Saturday when there were THOUSANDS of people just bunched up trying to get TO the security bag check metal detector areas. Imagine an explosive device occurring then as a monorail drives over top of you. it's a scary thing to even imagine and I hope to God it never occurs.... my first line of thinking was simply to spread out the check areas and not bottleneck the masses at the same place and try to not let anyone get even near the parks that could do mass harm

 

[dizneycrazy09]

You realize how ridiculous that would be, right?
You realize it wouldn't make anyone safer, but would totally destroy the whole point of vacation, right?
You do get how unworkable it would be under any circumstances, right?
You do realize that even if you did that, what would stop someone from attacking an entrance with security and metal detectors?

You do realize that WDW's business is destroyed with one mass casualty attack, even if its in the parking lot of one of DD's hotels, right?

You are never safe. Just a sad fact of life.

I hate how right you are.