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Orlando Becoming East Coast Headquarters for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products
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MagicHappens1971
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Are these still 2021 numbers?
I don’t recall the 2022 numbers being released, and in 2019, MK attendance numbers were nearly 10 million more than Islands & USF (separately).
Anyways, Disney was still limiting attendance in 2021. Universal wasn’t. Disney not as much in 2022.
Will be interesting to see the 2022 numbers
Figgy1
Premium Member
Doesn't UNI have a very high percentage of APs and hopper tickets sold compared to Disney. When we go to Disney hopping depends on the trip but when we go to UNI not only do we hop we hop a couple of times a day. It would be interesting to see the amount of clicks into the parks compared to the actual number of people on property
So are those numbers based on the numbers of people clicked into a park or just their first click in for the day?
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Yo…that’s a Covid year, boss - 2021
Magic kingdom pulls 20…almost double all the other games in town.
Wdw pulls high 50’s total and Uni pulls around 20
Here’s the most recent fair comparison:
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
There’s a reason the source for those numbers arranged them by their 2019 attendance.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
If you have more recent numbers I’d love to see them. Most recent I could find was 2021
Gary7777777
Member
Keep on telling yourself that. January 1, 2021 Disney Company stock was $184/share with a dividend. Today the stock pays no dividend and is priced at $94/share.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Because TEA hasn’t released 2022 yet
The most recent, non-disrupted year is 2019
Remember uni went to full open in summer of 2020…while disney fired its staff like morons and still only had 50% of its own hotel rooms open at the start of 2022
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
Stock price isn’t everything, and streaming costs are driving Disneys revenue down, not the parks.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Hey Brain,
…I’ve been hammering the management and the financials constantly…ask around…
What does that have to do with the market share in Orlando?
I’ll wait
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Did I say there were more recent estimates? I said there is a reason the source didn’t change the order of their most visited parks list.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
Seems pretty stupid and self destructive.
OP said Universal would never pull numbers close to WDW. I showed they already are. “But COVID…” “But WDW fired a bunch of people…” So what? The numbers are already very close.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
What “source” are you talking about? OP said Uni would “never” be close to WDW’s numbers. I showed most recent statistics proving otherwise.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
Because historically, they're not. If Disney's parks were fully open in 2021, they would've pulled more attendance than Universal.
We should revisit this when TEA drops the 2022 numbers.
Fordlover
Active Member
Actually, I think Iger said he’d be open to speaking to the governor if he reached out. Nuanced yes but it does make a difference. I think currently Desantis sees this fight as a win for him. I’m honestly not sure if Bob sees this fight as a net win or losing battle.
my thoughts are government can afford to be distracted, since they never really do anything anyway. Distraction for companies I believe is less constructive. Someone could ask InBev if they think the disruption is good for business.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
You got caught on the numbers here. 2022 will be percentage wise close to 18/19…
It’s not a conspiracy…universal has pulled the wdw market share down from around 80% when IOA/DAK opened to around 70% now…
That’s still a major improvement that TWDC doesn’t like…and I know they don’t like epic coming…
But it’s still the big fish that can eat all the other fish in town and not burp.
It’s not a conspiracy…these are the accepted numbers for decades
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lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
You don’t know where the numbers came from?
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
He didn’t say “historically” he said they “never” would touch those numbers.
They’ve already closed the gap. Add all the excuses and caveats you want, but we’re already there.
Gary7777777
Member
Investing 101. Uncertainty and political chaos have tremendous effects on a stock’s future value from investors.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
Okay….. the 2022 numbers are going to most likely match the 2019 numbers, which means that “gap” will be reopened.