Orange/Green Team - Stanza XIII: The Carnival of the Animators

D Hulk

D Hulk

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FigmentPigments said:
This sounds like an interesting concept, and personally love the idea of a full Hollywood That Never Was. (I wish they would've done more with this theme to be honest).

My biggest concern is interest levels? Is this something that will interest the whole family? Will kids, teens, and adults all find something here to enjoy? Do we even want to cater to the whole family?
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There's definitely a way to cater to the whole family even while embracing vintage nostalgia for a time guests never knew. I mean...isn't that what Disney does?

As Vox sez, TOT proves the concept. Use Roger Rabbit (a hot IP circa 1996) and make a full authentic Maroon Studios, Ink & Paint Club, with a modified RR Car Toon Spin. That's 1940s Hollywood, but a popular IP too. Same with Muppets. Same with Lucasfilm, which is already there - make a New Hollywood movie ranch out of that area maybe. And do non-IP Hollywood stuff like a noir gangster thrill ride.

A mix of IP and original, like Disneyland does! The toons and Star Wars draw guests in, and the original stuff builds out the brand into new and exciting areas!
 
FigmentPigments

FigmentPigments

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D Hindley said:
There's definitely a way to cater to the whole family even while embracing vintage nostalgia for a time guests never knew. I mean...isn't that what Disney does?

As Vox sez, TOT proves the concept. Use Roger Rabbit (a hot IP circa 1996) and make a full authentic Maroon Studios, Ink & Paint Club, with a modified RR Car Toon Spin. That's 1940s Hollywood, but a popular IP too. Same with Muppets. Same with Lucasfilm, which is already there - make a New Hollywood movie ranch out of that area maybe. And do non-IP Hollywood stuff like a noir gangster thrill ride.

A mix of IP and original, like Disneyland does! The toons and Star Wars draw guests in, and the original stuff builds out the brand into new and exciting areas!
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Oh, I misunderstood! I thought you wanted the whole park to be Jazz clubs and the like, taking out Muppets, Star Wars, and some of the attractions that are not in the 1940s. I kept thinking, I just can't get behind a project that takes those things out and still expect it draw in the family. Thank you for clarifying.
 
Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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In the Parks
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D Hindley said:
There's definitely a way to cater to the whole family even while embracing vintage nostalgia for a time guests never knew. I mean...isn't that what Disney does?

As Vox sez, TOT proves the concept. Use Roger Rabbit (a hot IP circa 1996) and make a full authentic Maroon Studios, Ink & Paint Club, with a modified RR Car Toon Spin. That's 1940s Hollywood, but a popular IP too. Same with Muppets. Same with Lucasfilm, which is already there - make a New Hollywood movie ranch out of that area maybe. And do non-IP Hollywood stuff like a noir gangster thrill ride.

A mix of IP and original, like Disneyland does! The toons and Star Wars draw guests in, and the original stuff builds out the brand into new and exciting areas!
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My concern with that theme is that it seems limiting. Like, there's a lot that can be done, but it feels like the same issue California Adventure had of being narrow for the whole park. It's focusing in the scope instead of expanding it.

But if we can do that and just it as a good foundation for the Park's future, than I'm game.
 
Voxel

Voxel

President of Progress City
Pionmycake said:
My concern with that theme is that it seems limiting. Like, there's a lot that can be done, but it feels like the same issue California Adventure had of being narrow for the whole park. It's focusing in the scope instead of expanding it.

But if we can do that and just it as a good foundation for the Park's future, than I'm game.
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My understanding is that the entire park is going to continue being a Movie set.. But as you enter the sets they come to life. Like the original Star Tours. Like the Muppets Studios idea we talked about would work. But we also should bring the glitz and glam that never was. I believe @D Hindley is suggesting we keep the hollywood field aka no silly hats in the middle of the park. Everythign looks like it's from a film or for a production, not like it was cut and paste in. (If that makes sense).
 
AceAstro

AceAstro

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DisneyFan18 said:
If we're going for DHS, maybe we can save Disney for a complicated dilemma in the future and add a Marvel Land? This way we save future Epcot and future Disney
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mickeyfan5534 said:
A: Don't own the company yet
B: Still recovering from comics crash.
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IoA opened in 1999. Feels realistic to me they were working on a deal by ‘95. This way Disney “swoops” in to take it from their competition.
 
Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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In the Parks
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DisneyFan18 said:
If we're going for DHS, maybe we can save Disney for a complicated dilemma in the future and add a Marvel Land? This way we save future Epcot and future Disney
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Marvel at that time period would have the same problem of video games of not being movie/Hollywood related.

Voxel said:
My understanding is that the entire park is going to continue being a Movie set.. But as you enter the sets they come to life. Like the original Star Tours. Like the Muppets Studios idea we talked about would work. But we also should bring the glitz and glam that never was. I believe @D Hindley is suggesting we keep the hollywood field aka no silly hats in the middle of the park. Everythign looks like it's from a film or for a production, not like it was cut and paste in. (If that makes sense).
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That makes sense. Less of a focused in version of the theme, more of a better realization of the theme. I like
 
mickeyfan5534

mickeyfan5534

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Voxel said:
My understanding is that the entire park is going to continue being a Movie set.. But as you enter the sets they come to life. Like the original Star Tours. Like the Muppets Studios idea we talked about would work. But we also should bring the glitz and glam that never was. I believe @D Hindley is suggesting we keep the hollywood field aka no silly hats in the middle of the park. Everythign looks like it's from a film or for a production, not like it was cut and paste in. (If that makes sense).
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So more of a Magic Hollywood?
 
D Hulk

D Hulk

Well-Known Member
Pionmycake said:
My concern with that theme is that it seems limiting. Like, there's a lot that can be done, but it feels like the same issue California Adventure had of being narrow for the whole park. It's focusing in the scope instead of expanding it.

But if we can do that and just it as a good foundation for the Park's future, than I'm game.
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Voxel said:
My understanding is that the entire park is going to continue being a Movie set.. But as you enter the sets they come to life. Like the original Star Tours. Like the Muppets Studios idea we talked about would work. But we also should bring the glitz and glam that never was. I believe @D Hindley is suggesting we keep the hollywood field aka no silly hats in the middle of the park. Everythign looks like it's from a film or for a production, not like it was cut and paste in. (If that makes sense).
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Agreed with both. Good issues to raise. Just Hollywood is very limiting, so we go with a "movie set which comes to life" approach like done with Star Tours. But - and I'm thinking out loud here - could we make the idea broader?

Gonna use Star Tours and the Indy Stunt Show as an example. Could we transform the entire area around these to be an immersive Star Wars Land? Basically, Galaxy's Edge but 20 years early. Entering this land from the Hollywood Boulevard area, there's a transition bit where guests pass through a studio soundstage where they're simply filming Star Wars. Slowly they enter Tatooine itself, and the entire land becomes the real deal, no more Hollywood. So within this land, Star Tours becomes an actual spaceport, the Indy Stunt Show becomes instead say a stunt show around Jabba's Palace, and around 2001 we add a Pod Race thrill ride to round it all out.

Other franchises which need immersive lands can get the same treatment. But alongside that we have several Hollywood-themed lands. What other IPs in the late-90's could yield whole lands?

Hollywood themed lands:
Hollywood Blvd. (entry area, GMR, stays the same)
Sunset Blvd. (TOT, otherwise add to that with more glitz and glamour)
Maroon Studios (Roger Rabbit land, film studio for all the Disney cartoon characters, can be our Fantasyland)
Griffith Hills (celeb mansions, Griffith Observatory, a green space which DHS needs, can include 40's IPs like Rocketeer, Indy, etc.)
Chinatown (vintage noir L.A. can host Richard Tracy's Crimestoppers, + an original ride based around Chinese culture/myth a-la Big Trouble in Little China, even "on location" film shoots)
 

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