Orange/Green Team - Stanza XIII: The Carnival of the Animators

[mickeyfan5534]

Still figuring out Fantasmic.

Fantasmic I’m thinking either a version that improves on Disneyland or doing a proto-World of Color

 

[D Hulk]

Fantasmic I’m thinking either a version that improves on Disneyland or doing a proto-World of Color

The former is impossible. Better do the latter.

 

[mickeyfan5534]

The former is impossible. Better do the latter.

Meh I honestly think I did it with Stanza I.

 

[pixie_princess]

Meh I honestly think I did it with Stanza I.

I feel like World of Color came out so much later that thats the impossible idea here. I would suggest and vote for improving Fantasmic.

 

[pixie_princess]

Okay guys, I know I have been a bit busy, and I was trying to let you guys brainstorm openly, however I feel like this is a little too Blue Sky even for a something Blue Sky. I don't entirely know how to do this PM thing, but I feel now like I need to step in. We are doing the same thing we were worried about doing with CA in that we have to many ideas and no consensus and no solid thread. And we have way way to much. So I don't really want to shoot anyones ideas down but we need to start working the ideas together a bit more realistically.

 

[Voxel]

Okay guys, I know I have been a bit busy, and I was trying to let you guys brainstorm openly, however I feel like this is a little too Blue Sky even for a something Blue Sky. I don't entirely know how to do this PM thing, but I feel now like I need to step in. We are doing the same thing we were worried about doing with CA in that we have to many ideas and no consensus and no solid thread. And we have way way to much. So I don't really want to shoot anyones ideas down but we need to start working the ideas together a bit more realistically.

This exactly what you need to do from time to time. This is the correct move, we need to narrow down these "themed" areas to three key target areas and allocate ~$400 Million to each section to build theme up (of course this amount can change if one needs more and the other needs less). By focusing on three core areas, we give ourselves a practical levels of work and actually hit the requirement of a change at the scale of the DCA renovation.

 

[Voxel]

Here is a list of the all the Ideas mentioned:

Mary Poppins Land
Location: A Small part of Streets of America
Theme: One of Walt Disney’s most beloved classics, Mary Poppins
Attraction Ideas:
Jolly Holiday a omnimover in which your vehicles are the Carousel Horses, the attraction takes through an adventure with Mary Poppins and Bert!
Mary Poppins M&G meet Mary Poppins, take a picture with her, and more.

Alien Attraction
Location: Unsure maybe where Frozen the musical currently is?
Theme: Alien
Attraction: You’re in a Space Base, then ExtraTERRORestrial happens in the pre show, and you must hunt the alien through a destroyed space base in a Shooting Gallery Ride, however, it seems like you’re actually the prey and not the hunter...

Sunset Boulevard (1920s Hollywood)
Location: Purple boxes, where present day Sunset Blvd is
Theme: 1920s Hollywood. From the glitz and glamour, the seedy underbelly, the haunted hotels, and the classic films
Attraction Ideas:
Gangster Ride A trolley ride or something themed to gangsters and back alleys. Possibly inspired by the Richard Tracy ride that never was. Preferably noIP as Richard Tracy was seen as a critical and commercial failure that audiences didn't like which is why the ride wasn't built in the first place.
Jazz Club and/or Speak Easy Restaurant
Silent film inspired outdoor show. Basically a Slapstick streetmosphere with sets and props built into the facades of the area
Trackless Ride or Nightmare Before Christmas. some other attraction either entered through Hollywood graveyard at the base of Tower of Terror or the trackless Ride. Just some added experience.

expanded animation area/maroon studios
Location: orange on map. Animation courtyard connecting to where current day Rockin Rollercoaster is taking up that spot
Theme: Too Studios type thing. Dedicated to animation. Maybe some Roger Rabbit
Attraction Ideas:
Fantasmic like show
Get rid of the Playhouse Disney theater and some other stuff there that is expandable and you can make a lake HERE that is big enough for a Fantasmic level show. And thematically it makes a lot more sense here connected to the animation area, sunset Blvd, and the hub than it does over in an Indy area in the back of the park.

Hot Sets

Location from Star Tours up through NY street
theme A series of sets in Soundstages. The Soundstages are all just wall that serve as entries into immersive themed lands based on movies.
areas Star Wars Land around Star Tours. The Backlot Express can become the cantina and we can build out into the parking lot to make a Pod Racing ride.
Muppets Manhattan. This can take over the area around Muppet Vision. The Muppets take Manhattan as the vague theme allows us to reuse the NY Street stuff. Retheme Mama Melrose to Swedish Chef and retheme Pizza Planet before it even opens. Maybe add an extra attraction. Could be very cheap.
Mary Poppins Land. Have the Jolly Holiday dark ride for families and maybe a carousel. This takes place where the hunchback show was. Maybe add a Poppins stage show instead of a dark ride to use that theater.
Bug's Life. This takes over the Honey I shrunk the kid's. Maybe just add a flat ride or two. Perhaps Heimlichs Chew Chew Train can be here before DCA. Again, keep it very cheap


Sunset Boulevard / Hollywood Hills
Land Theme: 1940s-50s; Residential hills overlooking Hollywood (Hollywood Sign, Griffith Park, etc.)
Attraction Ideas: Tower of Terror
Beauty & the Beast Live on Stage (possible retheme to a vintage Hollywood musical revue)
Trackless dark ride - celeb mansion / enchanted projector (tent. name: Villa Vortex)
Rocketeer coaster or flight sim (located in Griffith Observatory)
TBD Nightmare Before Christmas attraction (set in Hollywood Cemetery alongside TOT)
Streetmosphere (on location film shoots, maybe in the slapstick silent style)

Maroon Studios
Location: Retheme of Animation Courtyard
Theme: Roger Rabbit studios where famous toons perform
Attraction Ideas: Roger Rabbit’s Car Toon Spin (clone from Disneyland)
Ink & Paint Club (show venue using “Musion” projected cartoon characters)
Red Car Trolley (transportation ride to nearby lands)
The Terminal Bar (restaurant, a speakeasy alongside the Red Car station)
The Magic of Disney Animation (existing attraction, real live animation studio)
Mickey Mouse dark ride (Fantasyland style, ride through Mickey filming his famous shorts)
Additional similar dark rides? (for other famous Disney stars)

L.A. Noire (not final name)
Location: Current Toy Story Land / Pixar Place setting
Theme: Noir, pulpy downtown Los Angeles (1920s-40s)
Attraction Ideas: Richard Tracy’s Crime Stoppers (EMV thrill dark ride)
Drag race thrill ride (1940s hot rod culture + the "chickie run" from Rebel Without a Cause)
El Train roller coaster (more gangster craziness)
Chinatown attraction (discover mythic Chinese creatures living in Chinatown's hidden recesses)
"Tail of the Pup" restaurant

Muppet City
Location: Streets of America area slightly rethemed
Theme: The Muppets’ neighborhood in Hollywood
Attraction Ideas: MuppetVision 3D (existing centerpiece)The Great Muppet Movie Ride (interactive dark ride, guests control a movie camera rig)
Various Muppets’ homes (walkthroughs with interactive elements including a “Turtle Talk” style Fozzie)
Great Gonzo flying spinner (if we need a spinner)
Swedish Chef’s restaurant
Electric Mayhem show venue (@AceAstro has more)

Star Wars Land (not final name)
Location: Echo Lake area rethemed to Tatoine, entry through a soundstage for transition
Theme: Harry Potter
Attraction Ideas: Star Tours (still here)
Jabba’s Stunt Show (Indy Stunt Show rethemes to a battle over the Sarlacc pit)
Pod Racers thrill ride (coaster, or Test Track)
Cantina (restaurant and show venue)
Live streetmosphere involving Jedi and Storm Troopers

Indiana Jones Land (not final name)
Location: Backlot Tour + Catastrophe Canyon area
Theme: Indy & the City of Atlantis
Attraction Ideas: Indy Atlantis E-ticket (ride type TBD)
Temple of Peril coaster clone (that’s a lame ride, but it’s realistic)
Archaeological ruins playground (Tom Sawyer Island quality)
Big old lagoon where a Fantasmic-style show can happen
Etc?

 

[Voxel]

Going through this list there seems to be a few repeated ideas.

Alot of people seem to like the 1920 to 1940 Hollywood LA Noire feel, with two proposed locations

Another common theme is the Idea of a Maroon Studios.

 

[pixie_princess]

I would vote against Mary Poppins, as she can be found in Epcot, I would also vote against Aliens in general as I don't really think it fits the atmosphere of the park, even if it could fit the theme.

 

[pixie_princess]

I would like by midnight est to have a solid outline of what we are doing. So if you could reply with what 3 target areas you would like to see, either from the ones above or if you have thought of something new so we can start creating a tally and seeing what everyone wants, and get any last minute ideas out of the way, that would be amazing.

 

[pixie_princess]

I'll start by saying personally, I really am on board with the Star Wars land themed to the prequels, I feel like the Muppets Land, while not my top choice, has a super strong foundation, and then I specifically asked @spacemt354 and he greenlit this AU having rights over Oswald, so I am going to pitch that 1920 era idea along sunset blvd to also include an Oswald ride and I know @Pionmycake has an idea about an Oswald themed Lucky Lounge. Also, @mickeyfan5534 how do you think about including Oswald into Fantasmic?

 

[AceAstro]

I'll start by saying personally, I really am on board with the Star Wars land themed to the prequels, I feel like the Muppets Land, while not my top choice, has a super strong foundation, and then I specifically asked @spacemt354 and he greenlit this AU having rights over Oswald, so I am going to pitch that 1920 era idea along sunset blvd to also include an Oswald ride and I know @Pionmycake has an idea about an Oswald themed Lucky Lounge. Also, @mickeyfan5534 how do you think about including Oswald into Fantasmic?

Great call on Oswald! I think that’d be a perfect fit!

 

[DisneyFan18]

I’m about to watch Deadpool 2! I hadn’t seen it because of exams

 

[pixie_princess]

I’m about to watch Deadpool 2! I hadn’t seen it because of exams

I haven't seen it yet either and I NEED IT

 

[D Hulk]

I would like by midnight est to have a solid outline of what we are doing. So if you could reply with what 3 target areas you would like to see, either from the ones above or if you have thought of something new so we can start creating a tally and seeing what everyone wants, and get any last minute ideas out of the way, that would be amazing.

Yeah, Pix 'n' Vox ("Pixel" is your couple name), reign us in! That's exactly what the PM should be doing at this juncture.

So, D Hindley's 3 fave target areas?

A) 1920s-50s Sunset Blvd. expansion. Can have elements of the noir area as well as Hollywood Hills/Los Feliz (the park needs green space). This is the assignment I'd like.

B) Maroon Studios. How do we feel about working Oswald into here?

C) Star Wars OR Muppets. It's hard to decide really. Is it unrealistic to do both? Muppets wouldn't be a very major thematic overhaul.

 

[DisneyFan18]

I haven't seen it yet either and I NEED IT

I hope it’s as good as they say it is! Hopefully you’ll see it soon as well!

 

[D Hulk]

Let's add this to Hollywood Blvd., only it's Oswald:

 

[Voxel]

Yeah, Pix 'n' Vox ("Pixel" is your couple name), reign us in! That's exactly what the PM should be doing at this juncture.

So, D Hindley's 3 fave target areas?

A) 1920s-50s Sunset Blvd. expansion. Can have elements of the noir area as well as Hollywood Hills/Los Feliz (the park needs green space). This is the assignment I'd like.

B) Maroon Studios. How do we feel about working Oswald into here?

C) Star Wars OR Muppets. It's hard to decide really. Is it unrealistic to do both? Muppets wouldn't be a very major thematic overhaul.

Agree on the reign in. I feel like Maroon Studios is a beautiful catch all that allows aspects to fit in there. Though honestly if you want my opinion I don't think Oswald would even be strang in the 1920s.

Depends on the scale and scope I feel like Star Wars and Muppets would be feasible, but reasonable would be like two new attractions for Star Wars and 1 for Muppets. Then Theming and dinning.

 

[DisneyFan18]

Maybe the Indy area can be cut to just the main attraction and dining + shop? It would be a Big E so that might be enough for it. Although I understand if it gets cut completely

 

[pixie_princess]

Agree on the reign in. I feel like Maroon Studios is a beautiful catch all that allows aspects to fit in there. Though honestly if you want my opinion I don't think Oswald would even be strang in the 1920s.

Depends on the scale and scope I feel like Star Wars and Muppets would be feasible, but reasonable would be like two new attractions for Star Wars and 1 for Muppets. Then Theming and dinning.

I agree that Oswald would work well in 1920 instead of Maroon. And I also think that 2 and 1 would allow both Muppets and SW to work.

I also like Pixel as our ship name.