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Opening WDW with Social Distancing
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NelleBelle
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Why not just cover the interactive parts of the queue?
But you could never enforce social distancing if you allowed friends or even family to be close because you would not know what was family and who wasn't or who was in group that came together. That's another one of the problems with the social distancing nonsense, if you make exceptions then there is no point to it at all.
Giss Neric
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It's so sad but this is 100% true. I hate people sometimes.
Giss Neric
Well-Known Member
They should just cover the guests and not parts of the queue. Problem solved.
Where would they ever get the masks...
Disney begins selling cloth face masks featuring Disney characters
Face mask characters include Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse, Anna and Elsa, Woody and Buzz Lightyear, The Avengers and Baby Yoda.
www.wdwmagic.com
jaklgreen
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Or fights breaking out because someone is "not staying 6 ft away from me".
NelleBelle
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Lol—I wanted people to stay 6 ft away from me in line before this all started!!
Tom P.
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We give Disney a lot of grief around here, but I think it's worth noting that they are donating all the profits from selling these masks in the United States to Medshare.Where would they ever get the masks...
Disney begins selling cloth face masks featuring Disney characters
Face mask characters include Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse, Anna and Elsa, Woody and Buzz Lightyear, The Avengers and Baby Yoda.
Up to $1 million. It still helps out the cause. This is a huge $$ maker for Disney.
ZoneOfTheEnder
Active Member
$19.95 for Disney printed washable face masks.
“Disney will also donate all profits from the sales in the U.S. of Disney’s cloth face masks to Medshare, up to $1 million, now through September 30, 2020.”
Polyester face masks. . . Washable . . . Hmmm not feeling good about this too many unknowns about effectiveness and if you don’t have a washing /drying machine then a family of 4 for a 10 day vacation might have to shell out $199.50 plus tax? for face masks.
If one cannot get disposable face masks then kaching more money for Disney.
We are gonna pass on this.
( 10,000 guests buying for a family of 4 for 10 days - Gross Disney sales
1.995 million dollars. All profits can imply after all expenses.It sounds good but. . . What happens after 9/30/20?)
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NelleBelle
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If we we’re going, it would be a hard pass for us as well. They don’t look like they would fit very well and the masks I make at home I can ensure conform snuggly to my face with a metal clip, are double line and have a filter! Not to mention I can make about 5 for the price of 1 of their masks (if not more)! And can find cuter Disney fabric 
You're overthinking it.
1 -- effectiveness. Virtually all masks are "effective" -- Not effective to prevent becoming infected, but effective at reducing the ability to transmit the disease. It's not about creating a 100% guarantee that you can't get the virus, or that nobody can get the virus. It's about greatly reducing the virus spread, making it far less common, reducing the level of infection. Even imperfect masks can do that.
2. A family of 4, 10 day vacation -- That's a minimum of a $4,000 vacation. Easily a $6,000 to $10,000 vacation if you stay onsite deluxe, include dining, travel, etc. But let's go with the minimum... about $4,000 for 10 nights of hotel, tickets, and dining. Might have to shell out $200 for masks! So... a total of 5% of the vacation cost. (And there are far cheaper face masks available.... you can get 40 face masks for about $10 total, or less).
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
Just thinking out loud here.
But if WDW went to FP only (obviously they'd have to increase allotment). Meaning getting rid of standby - they could stagger the queues. On any given ride they would know what numbers to expect and get an idea of what they are dealing with. If at 2pm they had 100 people coming in - at 2:15pm they had another 100 - so on and so on....
They could then use the regular queues that would accommodate more guests and it would be easier to space.
I would absolutely hate a FP only environment. But I can't think of another way to A) limit queues on specific rides and B) ensure spacing guidelines are met.
Any ideas?
But if WDW went to FP only (obviously they'd have to increase allotment). Meaning getting rid of standby - they could stagger the queues. On any given ride they would know what numbers to expect and get an idea of what they are dealing with. If at 2pm they had 100 people coming in - at 2:15pm they had another 100 - so on and so on....
They could then use the regular queues that would accommodate more guests and it would be easier to space.
I would absolutely hate a FP only environment. But I can't think of another way to A) limit queues on specific rides and B) ensure spacing guidelines are met.
Any ideas?
ZoneOfTheEnder
Active Member
Hmmmm
Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread?
Face masks are an effective method for containing the spread of the virus, used along with staying six feet apart from other people.
Food for thought
Hmmmm
Then do more research on your own and don't just rely on the mediaDo face masks really reduce coronavirus spread?
Face masks are an effective method for containing the spread of the virus, used along with staying six feet apart from other people.www.livescience.com
Food for thought
The article you cited basically said the exact same thing that I said..
"The results from influenza and seasonal coronaviruses suggest that surgical masks can help keep people with COVID-19 from spreading the virus, Cowling said. SARS-CoV-2 probably behaves similarly to the viruses he and his team studied, he said, and the fact that people can spread the virus before they experience symptoms is an argument for recommending masks for everyone......
One thing everyone does agree on is that, whatever containment provided by non-fitted masks do provide, homemade fabric masks are the least effective. The recommendations that everyone wear masks are because "any kind of impediment is better than nothing," Chu said. But fabric masks are not expected to be as protective as surgical masks, she said. That's why public health officials are warning people to remain at least 6 feet apart from one another, even if they are wearing masks. In other words, homemade masks are likely to be just a small piece of the puzzle for controlling the COVID-19 pandemic."
ZoneOfTheEnder
Active Member
You should read the study section on the effectiveness of the masks. It is fairly clear that once someone sneezes or coughs in a mask they become problematic.
With a Biologist (genetics) in the family the current CDC protocols go against basic immunology protocols for dealing with a virus. What complicates this is that one cause of the common cold is a coronavirus and during the course of a year people sometimes get two colds. So lots and lots of folks have coronavirus antibodies in their systems. So do they tests only find Covid19 and/or coronavirus and can they be differentiated?
Plus I believe unsubstantiated inflammatory news reporting is the real pandemic.
They acknowledge 1 of the 2 studies cited is crap... a study of 4 people, with entirely illogical results.
Yes, it's really clear that imperfect masks are... imperfect. It's also clear that when universally adopted, even imperfect masks do help.
I'm certainly not saying they are a panacea. They are not a replacement for social distancing. They are just 1 of many tools that should be employed. Nearly anything (not injecting disinfectant!) that reduces the risk of transmission should be utilized.
The only problem with the news is too many people don't read the details other than the headlines (which can be sensationalized or misleading), and too many people jump to conclusions about data they don't actually understand, or rely on demogogic non-journalistic non-scientific supposed news sources. (Someone like Sean Hannity or Laura Ingraham being the biggest examples of offenders). The main stream media has done a pretty good job, though you have to look beyond the headlines. The headlines often fail to tell the whole story.
Masks are a good example -- Some people are claiming the media and the scientists "changed their mind" on masks. But really, if you read the details beyond the headlines, it's been pretty consistent. Policy considerations have changed, but the underlying science and facts have remains consistent.
- Masks can help somewhat.
- Masks, especially non-N95 masks are imperfect
-Masks alone cannot prevent infection, they cannot replace social distancing.
Those facts have remained consistent throughout.... Policy considerations have changed:
- Would make recommendations cause panic mask purchasing, depriving the medical community of the masks at a time of shortage?
- Would masks give a false sense of security -- causing people to ignore social distancing recommendations, and thereby cause more harm than good.
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zengoth
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wow, the mask debate is going on furiously in at least 3 different threads...
(I reckon we already beat the dead horse that social distancing is near impossible in a themepark with more than 10% capacity.)
Anyone want to chime in on if there will be CMs at each restroom entrance to keep the number of folks using the facilities down to 3 or 4?
(I reckon we already beat the dead horse that social distancing is near impossible in a themepark with more than 10% capacity.)
Anyone want to chime in on if there will be CMs at each restroom entrance to keep the number of folks using the facilities down to 3 or 4?