Nintendo has made some other bold moves lately. I think (and hope) they will bounce back with their next console being released in March 2017 AND they have interest in the movie industry. One the movies being a Pokemon Live Action Movie. They're also investigating the Smartphone market. They're in a bad boat at the moment. But don't be surprised that they bounce back in the next few years.
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Only a "Fool" Would Believe the 5th Park is Near...
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Mike S
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None of the real insiders who would know have said anything about a video game park. It's baseless speculation based on the Nintendo announcement. I think you would be surprised at how many girls play video games. Nintendo also doesn't need to go mobile and here's a good read that explains it http://www.wired.com/2014/01/nintendo-mobile/. They just need to make their next console much better than the Wii U and do whatever they can to prevent the same droughts between releases that plagued the Wii U.
Thanks phoenicians
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Can we please fix the long list of other stuff at wdw before even mentioning a 5th gate which I highly doubt will ever happen. I'd like to see DAK get a replacement for dinoland or the originally planned dinoland with no chester/hester. Next Flesh out DHS with two more phases and an upgrade to phantasmic. Ecpot I don't know where to begin but it needs a lot of love. Finally, your left with two decaying water parks which apparently can't stay open consistently anymore and are about to be crushed by volcano bay. Thats a long laundry list so I really don't think if they ever build a new park it'll be in the next couple decades. What would even go in a 5th park?
Stripes
Premium Member
I have absolutely zero problems with Frozen taking over Maelstrom, but then again I had no emotional connection to it whatsoever. Toy Story Land, while it won't be a theming masterpiece (with that IP, how could it be?), but the Slinky Dog Coaster is more than it appears on paper, and at least it'll be something different that we've never seen before. So many look at the images released by Disney and think, "Well, it's just the baby coaster with a themed ride vehicle," when in reality it's more of an outdoor, less intense, RnRC with AAs, not to mention the queue will apparently be a sight to behold.
As for NFL, it's all about perspective, in my view NFL accomplished its goal very well. My youngsters absolutely love 7DMT (in their top 3 rides), and I know a lot of parents who say the same. Obviously there is more potential with anything you come across in life, but I'm one who sees the glass as half-full, not half-empty, if you know what I mean.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Slinky dog will have AAs? In the queue or as part of the ride? I haven't heard much of anything about it other than the concept art. Do you have a link to the details or is it from an insider source?
MagicHappens1971
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I believe it was stated during the announcement at the d23 expo, it was originally intended that the AAs would kinda "greet" you as you were on Slinky, if I remember and understood correctly.
Buried20KLeague
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You're wrong on the topic of females and video games. Here's a clip from "Adam Ruins Everything" (an awesome show) that debunks the topic. With citations.
There's plenty of video game IP they could develop a park around, plus they could use cross promotion in the park to promote new video games aimed at both male and females (synergy!!).
MagicHappens1971
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WDW has a long laundry list.
Starting with MK
This is what WDW lists as MK's "attractions":
Astro Orbiter
Barnstormer
Big Thunder
BLSRS
Casey Jr Splash
Cinderella Castle
Country Bear Jamboree
Dumbo
Enchanted Tales
Frontierland Shooting Arcade
Hall of Presidents
Haunted Mansion
It's a Small World
Jungle Cruise
Mad Tea Party
Liberty Square Riverboat
Magic Carpets
Main Street Vehicles
Pooh
Philarmagic
Peter Pan
Laugh Floor
A Pirates Adventure
POTC
7DMT
Carousel
SOTMK
Space
Splash
Stitchs Great Mistake
Swiss Family Treehouse
Peoplemover
Tom Sawyer Island
Ariel's Undersea...
Carousel of Progress
Tomorrowland Speedway
Tiki Room
And the railroad (Which they consider 3 different attractions because of the 3 stops)
Now in total thats 41 "attractions"
9 of them really aren't "attractions", and they have room for so much more in MK, but besides that...
- Peter Pan needs substantial upgrades
- Small World needs some pretty major refurbing
- Stich needs to go
- Tom Sawyers Island? Waste of space imo
- Frontierland Shooting Arcade? Doesn't take up much space but wouldn't really consider it an "attraction"
- Buzz needs a major refurb or just needs to leave Tomorrowland
- Tomorrowland Speedway either needs a major revamp or just a complete removal
- Carousel of Progress needs to progress, lol, nothing tooo major, but animatronics need updating pretty bad
- Casey Jr & The Barnstormer? Ehh, but that's a whole other story
- Tiki Rooms animatronics are pretty outdated and show effects in general aren't working as they should be
- Not as dire as Peter Pan, but Pooh could really benefit from new AAs just a more advanced version.
- Can't ever see this happening, but the transition from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland is horrible, (going off what I know) the only logical way to make it less ehh, would be to move the teacups back, get rid of the speedway and maybe build upon "The Enchanted Forest" theme? It would take a lot of remodeling I would think
- And Frontierland has room for one or two more attractions if they did it right
- Not super important but if "old' Fantasyland's facades could be improved to be more like Disneylands, I think that would be a big plus
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Not sure about AAs. But there's a concept video of the ride as well.
Thanks phoenicians
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Completely agree and this is only one park and arguably the one that needs the list work imo. NFL was a blown opportunity but again thats for another time
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
MK needs the least work, but it's just upsetting of even how bad things have gotten there. I'll probably wind up making a list for Epcot, theres just so many things I don't know where to start.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Try listing the things that don't need any help. Much shorter list
Thanks phoenicians
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Epcot (if they ever get to it) i'm assuming will be done piecemeal. Otherwise most of FW would be shut down at the same time right? Honestly it'll take much more money and much longer time to fix epcot than DHS. As much as i'd love to see something announced next D23, or even the one after, I'm not holding my breath. Its hard to imagine but with a 5th park the conditions would obviously get much worse...I don't know what worse looks like though considering this is probably the worst shape wdw has been in.
Progress.City
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Yes, we get it that there's a lot of work to be done with the four existing parks, but why is the concept of fixing these (all of them) plus adding new E-tickets to the parks, and PLUS developing a fifth gate so hard to swallow?
Disney makes much more net profit today on their parks than Comcast makes with their Universal parks. The company has been spending between $100 million and less than $400 million lately per block buster movie that their studios crank out more than monthly. They have the money to do everything plus more (including monorail expansion).
What hasn't helped is the fact that TDO has been resistant to proper maintainance budgets and budgets to regularly enhance the current attractions - a core difference between it and TDA (which has been doing the compete opposite). So, throwing money at WDW alone won't solve the problem. Changes at TDO and the way they do business is also essential.
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MagicHappens1971
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In my honest opinion, yes, Disney makes enough money to make all of these improvements and build a fifth park, IF, they wanted to. TDO doesn't want to spend that kind of money, in general, so I doubt they'd wanna do it all at once, and there construction rate is already pretty slow, so it would be even worse if they had all these projects going at once.
Progress.City
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Read the my paragraph. I address TDO.
We can agree that TDO is the main problem.
They will need to clean house and rebuild, if necessary - and under the supervision of TDA.
brb1006
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Glad I wasn't the only person who thought the translation from Tommorowland to Fantasy land looked bad. Love the idea of a forest like transation.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
There would be little to no benefit to a 5th park. Seriously, Guests already have more then enough to do with 4 parks, 2 water parks, golf courses, riding trails, etc. Besides they also have to take into consideration how much vacation time the the American traveler has. It isn't like Europe where they have, comparably, massive time off to do those things. An awful lot of people have only a week that they feel they can be away from their job, or a company that even has a more liberal quantity of time available. Four parks makes a perfect space vs. time ratio that allows people to see what is there or at least most of it and stay within the time that is allotted.
To me a 5th park would just push more people toward Universal for a more manageable visit where you don't feel like they rushed through or missed a lot due to time restrictions. My opinion? Yes, I have no data to back that statement up, just what I would be inclined to do.
To me a 5th park would just push more people toward Universal for a more manageable visit where you don't feel like they rushed through or missed a lot due to time restrictions. My opinion? Yes, I have no data to back that statement up, just what I would be inclined to do.
Disneyhead'71
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I think they get more bang for their buck with IP based "Lands" than new parks. They are much easier to market.