On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

V/N McQueen

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In the Parks
No
Now I'm a little concerned as to what this means for sponsorships and non-Disney properties. Is Tower of Terror in danger again? What about RnR and Test Track?

We also know WDW maintenance is a joke. Is the continually ignored upkeep (back when they were doing well pre-virus) going to wreak havoc now? Just look at whats happened to Splash, peoplemover, B-mode dinosaur, tipped over parrot and everything else. How much worse is this going to get?
 

mkt

Maleante Izquierdozo
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I'm tearing thru a Sam Adams summer pack I got on sale. Maybe five deep now?

Unbranded’s version of Black is Beautiful for me. I downed one four pack and it’s 10% and 500ml cans. I am happy.
 

GladToBeHear

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I'll admit it's disheartening reading some of the posts in this thread, but not surprising. As an outsider -- I've observed the mismanagement in this company/resort for YEARS. Changes are (beyond) in order. And sometimes it takes something bad to happen in order for true change to occur. This part of it, I will remain cautiously optimistic about (in the long-term anyway). If this bodes well for the future of WDW, maybe it's something I can deal with right now. We shall see I guess. Anyway, thank you for sharing your insider gossip with us simpletons.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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In the Parks
No
Now I'm a little concerned as to what this means for sponsorships and non-Disney properties. Is Tower of Terror in danger again? What about RnR and Test Track?
I can't imagine that now is the time they're suddenly going to want to spend the money to redo those attractions. Long-term who knows, but short-term I'd bet they refuse to touch as much as they can legally get away with.
 

HairyChest

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I will say I am so glad Rise of the Resistance, Runaway Railway, Pandora, the Gondolas, and the France Pavilion expansion were/are built before this pandemic hit or not we wouldn't have had any of it built. What we have, including the classics, I'm ok with for my future travels and will have an amazing time. Anything else they were going to or will add is icing on the cake for me.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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In the Parks
No
BTW. If they reduced resort rates and relaxed the outside mask rule (when distancing), I'd be down there tomorrow. Probably for 2-3 weeks.
My family is meant to be down the first week of August. They still seem to be going, I've been set against it. Flying into Florida for a non-essential trip just seems like a bad idea. But reading all this I almost wonder if this would be my last chance to get to the parks with them before things take a deeper dive . . .
 

cmarten

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I'm tearing thru a Sam Adams summer pack I got on sale. Maybe five deep now?
Glad to see you back! As someone who lives in New England I applaud you on the choice of beer. Have you tried Trillium at all before?

What are your thoughts on Josh’s rapid rise over the past year or so?
 

Lilofan

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For all the insiders, do you view these layoffs, taking out the trash, etc (not the park attendance) as a good long term thing?
For company shareholders, investors and Wall Street anytime a company re-orgs it at times boost the company stock price.
 
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Lilofan

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I don’t talk to anyone inside anymore. Those days passed when I moved back to Virginia.

But as someone who has watched this company since 2003?

No. None of this is good. The ripple effects through the industry as well as the entire Florida economy letalone the local economy will be huge and possibly devastating. Halloween is cancelled and Christmas will be soon. The parks are ghost towns (which is good in a sense in that less people, less risk of spreading the plague.) It’s going to kill all the secondary and tertiary jobs and businesses that depend on the theme parks. I-Drive? 192? Universal Blvd? All these places are screwed. This doesn’t even get into the housing market as people aren’t going to be able to afford rent. Evictions and foreclosures will happen.

Then there’s less tax money coming into Florida. Remember, they have no income tax. Sales tax and to a certain extent, tax revenue from tourist dollars pays for everything in Florida. Everything that relayed on State money? Screwed beyond belief.

You have Google setting up to have everyone work from home until Mid-2021. This is not going to end anytime soon. People aren’t going to spend several thousand dollars to Go on vacation to the current epicenter of a global pandemic.
Mental health clinics and food banks should be gearing up in more customers coming through their doors. Pawn shops will be doing brisk business. You are right on with less tax money coming into FL that has no state income tax. The FL counties will have less social services to offer residents and tourists and they may have to lay off staff also.
 
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Lilofan

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Orlando is a low wage city and one of the worst in the US for housing affordability. I’ll argue that most CM’s are a missed paycheck away from deciding if they want rent or food.

So, like 2008. But with fewer $150/wk motels on 192.
Ever seen the movie The Florida Project with actor Willem Dafoe?. Filmed on location in 192 Kissimmee. Truly an eye opener with people who don't know the dark side right near WDW.
 
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