On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

Heppenheimer

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You should have gone when you had the chance.
Once again, it is not easy for an American to permanently move to most of Europe. You need to be sponsored by an employer who must be able to demonstrate why they need to hire you over someone with citizenship within the Schengen Zone, and it needs government approval. Unless you fall within certain high-need job categories (skilled health care worker, research scientist, professional athlete, etc), no company is going to bother when they can probably find someone much easier within the EU.

I lived there twice, once in the army and once on a fixed-term contract. I would do it again in a second if I wasn't now a home owner. The US is home for me, but my quality of daily life was never better than when I lived in Germany and Belgium.
 

Miss Bella

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Once again, it is not easy for an American to permanently move to most of Europe. You need to be sponsored by an employer who must be able to demonstrate why they need to hire you over someone with citizenship within the Schengen Zone, and it needs government approval. Unless you fall within certain high-need job categories (skilled health care worker, research scientist, professional athlete, etc), no company is going to bother when they can probably find someone much easier within the EU.

I lived there twice, once in the army and once on a fixed-term contract. I would do it again in a second if I wasn't now a home owner. The US is home for me, but my quality of daily life was never better than when I lived in Germany and Belgium.
It’s nice we let so many move here. I wonder why they want to come here? If I hated this country as much as some seem too I‘d find a way to leave. There’s no reason to be miserable your whole life.
 

oceanbreeze77

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Once again, it is not easy for an American to permanently move to most of Europe. You need to be sponsored by an employer who must be able to demonstrate why they need to hire you over someone with citizenship within the Schengen Zone, and it needs government approval. Unless you fall within certain high-need job categories (skilled health care worker, research scientist, professional athlete, etc), no company is going to bother when they can probably find someone much easier within the EU.

I lived there twice, once in the army and once on a fixed-term contract. I would do it again in a second if I wasn't now a home owner. The US is home for me, but my quality of daily life was never better than when I lived in Germany and Belgium.
I lived over there, too, after college(2.5 years). Hate to sound cliche but living in Europe is truly a life changing experience. I know I'm still young and have a lot to live, and YES, Europe has its own troubles and issues, but the way that people are, the lifestyle, and the work life makes the overall quality of life just so much better. Especially depending on where you live. If you live in a city that's more traditional/less touristy, you really get to be apart of a community as if you were there from the beginning. My mental health really improved over there. Its a weird sensation to explain. When you compare that experience to the US, the US is no better. For me the US is home, but a happier and healthier life is across the Atlantic. Hopefully the US can achieve that.
 
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Chomama

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Totally agree. Critical thinking encourages us to make it better! If we accept things as they are or sugarcoat then there isn’t a lot of room for improvement. Also I really believe there are many people who have grown disenchanted with the USA In the last few years. Anyway, leaving or telling others to leave doesn’t improve things either. Avoiding politics but I do think it is ok to recognize things you appreciate in other countries and even to hope for improvement in your own. The same can be said for Disney. There are many here who criticize it but it comes from a love and desire to see it do better, not to have it closed down or to never visit again. Lots of parallels actually.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Originally, this thread was about Bob Iger's legacy. I have a question for the fans who frequent this site. What is your overall opinion of Bob Iger's performance as CEO of The Walt Disney Company? Maybe give him a grade and the main reasons for that grade?
I get your point...tangent city...

But we’ve beat the Iger: Good or Evil topic over the head with a blunt object at this point.

And we will for along time because he won’t go away!!
 
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Heppenheimer

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I lived over there, too, after college(2.5 years). Hate to sound cliche but living in Europe is truly a life changing experience. I know I'm still young and have a lot to live, and YES, Europe has its own troubles and issues, but the way that people are, the lifestyle, and the work life makes the overall quality of life just so much better. Especially depending on where you live. If you live in a city that's more traditional/less touristy, you really get to be apart of a community as if you were there from the beginning. My mental health really improved over there. Its a weird sensation to explain. When you compare that experience to the US, the US is no better. For me the US is home, but a happier and healthier life is across the Atlantic. Hopefully the US can achieve that.
This. Until you've actually lived it, you really can't know. Living there is a completely different ballgame from going on a trip.

Don't get me wrong, I love life up here in my isolated corner of Vermont. But there was just nothing like being able to walk to the edge of my village in Germany, looking up into the Odenwald mountains and being able to see three different castles... and a ton of other stuff that just made every day so enjoyable.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Totally agree. Critical thinking encourages us to make it better! If we accept things as they are or sugarcoat then there isn’t a lot of room for improvement. Also I really believe there are many people who have grown disenchanted with the USA In the last few years. Anyway, leaving or telling others to leave doesn’t improve things either. Avoiding politics but I do think it is ok to recognize things you appreciate in other countries and even to hope for improvement in your own. The same can be said for Disney. There are many here who criticize it but it comes from a love and desire to see it do better, not to have it closed down or to never visit again. Lots of parallels actually.
...I love you...

Will you marry me??

...I can make mean cocktails and enjoy experimenting in French cuisine 😉
 

easyrowrdw

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We had the meal plan our last trip and tipped well everywhere we ate. But had we had one more person it would have been the forced 20%. For a buffet where the server comes once to bring a drink, that seems like a lot. And I was a waitress, so I am cognizant of what a terrible tip looks like.
I've never dined in a large group at Disney. They do automatic gratuities at the buffets?! That's absurd.

I'm deducting 20 percent from Iger's legacy. (Trying to stay on topic for @_caleb 😉)
 

seabreezept813

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I've never dined in a large group at Disney. They do automatic gratuities at the buffets?! That's absurd.

I'm deducting 20 percent from Iger's legacy.

Yup, they do. Not a buffet, but you should have seen the tip we left at Narcoosees with 11 people. It was our wedding day and the service was outstanding, so zero complaints. But if I had to leave the same tip at Hollywood and Vine I’d be frustrated.
 

HanSoloDolo

Active Member
So the thing about tipping...yeah it’s a broken system blah blah...what most people don’t realize is that a server actually loses money when you don’t tip. It’s not just a zero, the server Has to pay out the bartender, food runner, busser, etc. a percentage of the overall sale. So if your party of 20 who racks up a huge bill decides not to tip it can be a significant loss. I agree it’s not on the consumer to fix a systematic problem but understand what you doing.
 

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