On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[brianstl]

That doesn’t make the suits raise any eyebrows.

They’ll continue working on the planned layoffs with proper zeal tomorrow morning

They won’t start laying off park cast members until March. They have already agreed to pay for their health insurance until then and it isn’t costing them anything more to have them called furloughed instead of laid off. So they will avoid the PR hit that official layoffs of regular park cast members brings until then.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You said he handled it best. Couldn't let that pass.

I’m told - grain of salt - it was a calculated choice when no good ones existed.

I’m ok with calling that out - honestly - but having it mentioned as a byline and brought up every half hour on tv is nonproductive.

“Best” is not what I meant to say...I would say “under the most pressure” to be more accurate. We had this “thing” that looked like it was going to kill everyone in transalpine Gaul going crazy March 15...and there were millions of Europeans and international travelers pouring into the area airports right up until that point.

The fear was real...the response may have been draconian but it’s real easy to pick those bones now.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They won’t start laying off park cast members until March. They have already agreed to pay for their health insurance until then and it isn’t costing them anything more to have them called furloughed instead of laid off. So they will avoid the PR hit that official layoffs of regular park cast members brings until then.

Is that documented or rumor? If it’s true that’s “at least something” again.

But the “one year” mark seems like an odd play?
Except that it allows those that have no chance of living in Florida’a Pitiful UE to just “go away” without layoffs. Disney can win the PR “war” through natural attrition.

Thanks for the info nonetheless.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

did you not read my post in its entirety? He had 2 very visible choices with the facilities that sat empty. And it bears repeating every time we hear how great the Governor handled the virus.
Nuff said.

I’m just relaying what I’ve heard through some contacts in Albany...unofficially.

And it’s a discussion board...did you miss the hubbub of “nuff said” earlier?

Anyway...it was a bad choice. They thought those “empty hospitals” were gonna overflow off the streets at that time. Mighty brave to look at it now...again.

It ended up being wrong but that wasn’t the no brainer you’re making it out to be.

I read your post...did you read mine? Incase I was subtle: that nursing home issue is a political football. It’s not the only one...but it is one. Time to punt it.

Now back to Disney?

 

[starwarsfan2]

I’m just relaying what I’ve heard through some contacts in Albany...unofficially.

And it’s a discussion board...did you miss the hubbub of “nuff said” earlier?

Anyway...it was a bad choice. They thought those “empty hospitals” were gonna overflow off the streets at that time. Mighty brave to look at it now...again.

It ended up being wrong but that wasn’t the no brainer you’re making it out to be.

I read you post...did you read mine? Incase I was subtle: that nursing home issue is a political football. It’s not the only one...but it is one. Time to punt it.

Now back to Disney?

When I stated Nuff said, I meant I was through (as this is not a political board). But you seem to always want the last word. Can you stand to not respond to this post?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

When I stated Nuff said, I meant I was through (as this is not a political board). But you seem to always want the last word. Can you stand to not respond to this post?

No hablo ingles, Senor

 

[ParentsOf4]

They won’t start laying off park cast members until March. They have already agreed to pay for their health insurance until then and it isn’t costing them anything more to have them called furloughed instead of laid off. So they will avoid the PR hit that official layoffs of regular park cast members brings until then.

Please keep in mind that corporate Disney almost certainly wants these experienced Cast Members back, eventually.

It's more than just bad PR; it's bringing back a workforce that knows how to do the job.

 

[starwarsfan2]

No hablo ingles, Senor

Didn't think so.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Didn't think so.

Just trying to get your post count up, Newbie

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Please keep in mind that corporate Disney almost certainly wants these experienced Cast Members back, eventually.

It's more than just bad PR; it's bringing back a workforce that knows how to do the job.

It depends on two things:
1. Who’s cheaper?
2. What does “knowing how to do the job” entail?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Thanks for the politics.

I think I know who that poster is. Almost verbatim a PM I got about a month ago from him saying what a dope I was if I didn’t believe it. In worse language and no class. He no longer posts in this thread, so I think he’s back.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think I know who that poster is. Almost verbatim a PM I got about a month ago from him saying what a dope I was if I didn’t believe it. In worse language and no class. He no longer posts in this thread, so I think he’s back.

SHHHH!!! don’t blow the Op!!

I fully believed that person is brand new and went straight after me like the T-1000...including “you always”
What’s not plausible about that?

 

[ParentsOf4]

It depends on two things:
1. Who’s cheaper?
2. What does “knowing how to do the job” entail?

That's what the College Program is for.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's what the College Program is for.

And that’s what imma sayin’

...since you brought it up...the longer the cancellation of college program goes - the worse it is for CMs hoping to be recalled. It’s a paradox that is unfortunately true.

 

[celluloid]

And that’s what imma sayin’

...since you brought it up...the longer the cancellation of college program goes - the worse it is for CMs hoping to be recalled. It’s a paradox that is unfortunately true.

And when it is time, If safety protocols allow, CPs will be in as fast as possible first. Much cheaper and they turn a profit off the rent vs that raise schedule full and part timers are getting.

 

[Castmbr]

I worked in the “sundial on Buena vista drive” for a spell in that era. And I know a lot about the NYC area and regulatory agencies. Which also involved post WTC type stuff.

Other than that...I know nothing. I swear.

Thanks that is EXACTLY what I thought

 

[Castmbr]

Didn't think so.

The ignore function works well... I just turned it on for Sirwaltersnotty

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Please keep in mind that corporate Disney almost certainly wants these experienced Cast Members back, eventually.

It's more than just bad PR; it's bringing back a workforce that knows how to do the job.

Considering the lack of college and international workers, I don’t how many “domestic” workers will be ultimately affected.

 

[Lilofan]

Considering the lack of college and international workers, I don’t how many “domestic” workers will be ultimately affected.

There are currently. A number of them are furloughed and barely surviving on unemployment.

 

[brianstl]

I don’t think the college program ever comes back as big as it was. Disney saved some money, but they learned those kids could be took away on a school’s whim.

People need to remember that before the parks closed it wasn’t Disney decision to shut the program down. It was made for them by the schools recalling their students. I doubt Disney has a desire to have such a large portion of their workforce that can be took away from them by the decisions of outsiders.

COVID-19 was a special case, but don’t think for a minute that activist groups didn’t notice Disney had to shut down the college program because of decisions of college administrators. Those activist groups would not hesitate in future to pressure colleges to recall their students if they wanted something from Disney.