OC Register - Disneyland and Universal Studios ask Newsom not to finalize theme park reopening plans just yet

[el_super]

Right now, it feels like he is out of touch with the average person and doesn't care about the impact it will have on them.

To be fair to him though... The average person doesn't have anything to do with theme parks. As governor of an entire state, his focus has to be on more than just one niche industry.

 

[Tamandua]

To be fair to him though... The average person doesn't have anything to do with theme parks. As governor of an entire state, his focus has to be on more than just one niche industry.

D'Amaro said the Disneyland Resort supplies 80,000 jobs. Now factor in universal, six flags, knotts, Legoland, and other theme parks and all the direct and indirect jobs they create and it's anything but a niche industry. Anaheim has lost $100 million in 6 months... How many public sector jobs is that that exist because of Disneyland alone?

 

[el_super]

D'Amaro said the Disneyland Resort supplies 80,000 jobs.

That's 0.4% of working Californian Adults.

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

Yeah, I agree. But that also doesn't justify forcing people into an unsafe environment in order to earn a paycheck. Fortunately there are a lot of options between A and B. Unemployment programs are pretty well established, and have beem extended due to the crisis. Extending them again for a very specific and hard hit industry shouldn't be out of the question. Federally, we have offered education and job placement grants for sectors that saw heavy job loses and even corporate bailouts to help industry keep jobs.

Saying any or all of these are off the table really betrays the idea that this is solely a selfish argument for reopening the park, pretending to be concern for Cast Member wellbeing.

If we’re talking in purely hypotheticals that is fine by me to make everyone whole, even though I personally know people who work at Disneyland that want to go back to work.

A corporate bailout at the level you’re talking about for the WDC, Comcast, Cedar Fair, et al, plus the cities Buena Park, San Diego, the Anaheim Resort District businesses, and the city of Anaheim, combined with other tangentially impacted layoffs simply will never materialize.

To be fair to him though... The average person doesn't have anything to do with theme parks. As governor of an entire state, his focus has to be on more than just one niche industry.

I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling here or being genuine. There’s no way theme parks constitute a “niche” industry in Southern California or anywhere. Particularly since they’re tied to two of the largest employers in the state that literally stand at the heart of the entertainment industry.

It would be one thing to “play it safe” if Florida was on an island as an outlier skirting the medical evidence by reopening their parks... but it’s actually the opposite which is why the “grand California bailout” is DOA regardless of our political outlook next year this coming. This is now a self-inflicted wound California with prolonged ripple effects.

It’s telling that all over the world including in every other Disney Parks market, theme parks have been cleared to open/operate with safety precautions, in many environments that are hardly business friendly bastions and a few of which frankly have (as nations) taken this virus more seriously than the U.S. to begin with. And somehow the “very contemporary” California can’t figure it out.

 

[SuddenStorm]

That's 0.4% of working Californian Adults.

A significant number that shouldn't be neglected. Isn't it also what the COVID death rate is?

 

[Tamandua]

A significant number that shouldn't be neglected. Isn't it also what the COVID death rate is?

It's way, way higher than the covid death rate, and he's conveniently ignoring all the indirect jobs and jobs created by all the other theme parks in the state

 

[lazyboy97o]

It’s telling that all over the world including in every other Disney Parks market, theme parks have been cleared to open/operate with safety precautions, in many environments that are hardly business friendly bastions and a few of which frankly have (as nations) taken this virus more seriously than the U.S. to begin with. And somehow the “very contemporary” California can’t figure it out.

Amusement parks are closed in other parts of the US and the world, including Sweden.

 

[el_super]

A corporate bailout at the level you’re talking about for the WDC, Comcast, Cedar Fair, et al, plus the cities Buena Park, San Diego, the Anaheim Resort District businesses, and the city of Anaheim, combined with other tangentially impacted layoffs simply will never materialize.

You might be right. Pretty sure someone around here though basically said Anaheim was seeking federal funding to bail them out though...

I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling here or being genuine. There’s no way theme parks constitute a “niche” industry in Southern California or anywhere. Particularly since they’re tied to two of the largest employers in the state that literally stand at the heart of the entertainment industry.

Have some perspective. Its been six months and this story isn't getting any traction outside of theme park circles. I posted Newsom's poll numbers in another thread, but long story short: this isn't impacting him politically at all.

And somehow the “very contemporary” California can’t figure it out.

They could have gone with the very strict lockdowns that were used to control the virus in China, but reopening the economy was seen as a higher priority at the time.

A significant number that shouldn't be neglected. Isn't it also what the COVID death rate is?

Close, it seems like its hovering around 0.6%.

It's way, way higher than the covid death rate, and he's conveniently ignoring all the indirect jobs and jobs created by all the other theme parks in the state

So what is the ratio of what a life costs versus a job? Maybe we can figure out if saving the lives of 0.6% is worth the jobs of 0.4%? The hard part will be calculating the value of the temporary job loss versus the eternal nature of death.

 

[Anjin]

I'm going to miss this thread when it ends up in the Politics board.

 

[TP2000]

To be fair to him though... The average person doesn't have anything to do with theme parks. As governor of an entire state, his focus has to be on more than just one niche industry.

He's very busy. Cut him some slack on this whole theme park thing. The Kardashians have.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

*slow clap*

 

[Curious Constance]

I'm going to miss this thread when it ends up in the Politics board.

Cut the head off of one, and two more will take its place.

 

[Curious Constance]

He's very busy. Cut him some slack on this whole theme park thing. The Kardashians have.

Those 24 toxic chemicals were known to the state of California to diminish the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles and bring back the skin’s youthful, healthy glow.

 

[TP2000]

Those 24 toxic chemicals were known to the state of California to diminish the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles and bring back the skin’s youthful, healthy glow.

I can't argue with that. Science is science, even when it's the science of beauty.

And a Kardashian is never wrong. Annoying, perhaps. But never wrong. #BeautyMadeBetter

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

So I'll technically be more youthful looking in several years when Disneyland reopens thanks to the Governor's toxic chemicals ban?

 

[SuddenStorm]

He's very busy. Cut him some slack on this whole theme park thing. The Kardashians have.

Today I learned that the refined TP2000 follows the Kardashians on Twitter.

2020 never ceases to surprise me.

 

[TP2000]

Today I learned that the refined TP2000 follows the Kardashians on Twitter.

2020 never ceases to surprise me.

Now, don't needlessly sully my good name.

I don't use the Twitter. But about a year ago I figured out how to go find it on the Google. And now it's fun to go there and see what the Kool Kids are saying. It's actually hysterical!

And this won't flatter me, but all I had to do was search Gavin Newsom's Twitter thing for 6 seconds to find the most inane post he made within the last 24 hours. And because he's Gavin Newsom and because it's 2020, it was quite easy to find a Blue Check Mark Kardashian with 80 million followers thanking him for his bold and noble work on making mascara and lip gloss safer for every Armenian girl in Calabasas, beginning in 2025 when Assembly Bill 2762 takes effect. #BeautyMadeBetter

Despite the pandemic, there is important work being done in Sacramento! Don't ever forget that.

 

[SplashGhost]

Twitter is a cesspool, at least on here people can actually have conversations with some depth in them. On Twitter, it is mostly like, if you don't believe this super extreme view on whatever my side is, you are wrong. This year led me to spend far less time on Twitter because I mentally couldn't take it anymore.

 

[Curious Constance]

I can't argue with that. Science is science, even when it's the science of beauty.

And a Kardashian is never wrong. Annoying, perhaps. But never wrong. #BeautyMadeBetter

I really wish I knew if Kourtney Kardashian’s make-up line contained any of those 24 chemicals.

 

[TP2000]

I really wish I knew if Kourtney Kardashian’s make-up line contained any of those 24 chemicals.

Wouldn't that be great?! She's been shilling these death chemicals from her Calabasas compound for years, but then Tweets to Gavin Newsom how fabulous and brave he is for outlawing them. #BeautyMadeBetter

I swear to God, I want us all to look back on 2020 five years from now and realize how stupid it was. I've never seen anything like this. Ever.