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OC Register - Disneyland and Universal Studios ask Newsom not to finalize theme park reopening plans just yet
- Thread starter Anjin
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You don't need to believe Disney, but when:
- Universal
- SeaWorld
- Six Flags
- Cedar Fair
George Lucas on a Bench
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I should note that I was several days late in taking new photos of the Alpine Inn during my morning power walk because frankly the area around Disneyland stinks. The Katella side particularly has had a distinctly homeless stench, as if they're in the bushes while I stroll by listening to country music as Disneyland sits vacant on the other side of a fence. It's Southern California, so absolutely no surprise there. The stench was so repulsive the other day that I decided not to go back for a bit.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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dude, let it go. it will open when it opens
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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Hey the 'D' is back!
No, they aren't, they are complaining that they aren't being treat equal to other similar businesses like Zoos, Aquariums and Amusement Centers and it is a very valid point.
Nope, time to push back harder.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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No....please......please don't. We can't take any more.
Theme parks need to start filing lawsuits now.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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No..they don't or their lawyers who actually went to law school would have done so already.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
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Your passion for this is commendable, but I just don’t see it happening. CAPA would have to file suit on behalf of industry, as I
don’t think Disney or Comcast want to go on record for the reasons others have stated.
I think we may just need to consider this issue settled for now. Iger/Chapek/D’Amaro seem perfectly happy to throw shade at Newsom for current (and likely future) layoffs. In exchange, Newsom seems willing to set himself up as a great foil given his total disinterest in pedestrian things like theme parks.
Maybe at some point after another round (or two) of mass layoffs in a “new normal” era, Iger and Newsom can share a nice bottle of vino at his winery and laugh in the humor of it all. Water under the bridge (or is it wine under the vineyard?)...
Giss Neric
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The president being discharged after he tested positive is faster than California releasing theme park guidelines.
el_super
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It's so strange to see, after decades of history and volumes written dedicated to convincing people that Disneyland was something special, to see "fans" now trying to make the case that it's no different from a zoo.
But Cedar Fair has proven they can and will file lawsuits, so don't think Disney or Universal wouldn't be willing to join them in some fashion (either officially or unofficially).
GimpYancIent
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No Disney is not, has not, did not drag it's feet more like Politburo edicts obstructing.
Tamandua
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I think the right time to start pressuring the governor was when they refused to issue guidelines that would allow them to open July 17th as planned. It took them months to start their pr campaign, and as much as I disagree with the governor overall, I sort of blame Disney for buying into the hysteria and fear and taking so long to acknowledge that it is safe to open. I was at Disneyland March 13th on their last day. They had already installed signage and implemented new protocols to mitigate virus exposure. I couldn't get my popcorn bucket refilled as they considered that a health risk. They didn't give people cards on the millennium falcon. They had handwashing signs up... Etc. They were halfway to the current safety protocols before they even closed.
I say this all with the belief that covid was spreading for months before they even closed, and I'm confident that I got it while at Disneyland in January, shortly after the first confirmed cases in orange county were reported. There were no tests available to know what was going on, but the fact is that they closed the park months too late for it to matter. They closed the barn door well after the horse got out, and it's still closed. But Disney waited so long to push back, that's it's easy to argue that they agreed with the shutdowns and the threat, and with the virus still around, they are not being consistent wanting to open. I think they're be in a much stronger position if they hadn't waited so long.
Mac Tonight
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Disneyland originally wanted to and was scheduled to open July 17th until the state intervened and said no. It's almost 3 months later... and now re-opening seems even less possible this year.
"Local health authorities have given the green light for Disneyland and Knott’s Berry Farm to reopen while California theme parks await reopening guidelines from Gov. Gavin Newsom after more than six months of coronavirus closures.
The Orange County Health Care Agency has recommended the state allow Disneyland, Disney California Adventure and Knott’s Berry Farm to reopen once Orange County moves into the “moderate” tier of Newsom’s Blueprint for a Safer Economy, according to county health officer and agency director Clayton Chau.
O.C. Health officials have worked closely with Disney to prepare for the reopening of its Anaheim theme parks, according to Chau."
www.ocregister.com
The Orange County Health Care Agency has recommended the state allow Disneyland, Disney California Adventure and Knott’s Berry Farm to reopen once Orange County moves into the “moderate” tier of Newsom’s Blueprint for a Safer Economy, according to county health officer and agency director Clayton Chau.
O.C. Health officials have worked closely with Disney to prepare for the reopening of its Anaheim theme parks, according to Chau."
County health agency recommends reopening Disneyland and Knott’s Berry Farm
The Orange County Health Care Agency has recommended the state allow the county’s 3 theme parks to reopen once it moves into the ‘moderate’ COVID-19 tier, according to agency dire…
www.ocregister.com
Darkbeer1
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California shouldn’t make the Disneyland reopening decision in the dark
The public needs to know what factors officials are considering in deciding how — or whether — parks can operate safely.
www.ocregister.com
>>Businesses, including theme parks, should reopen only when it is safe for them to operate. Yes, getting people back to work is important, but never at the cost of people’s lives. That’s why I want to see physicians, data scientists and medical professionals making decisions about reopening the economy — not business leaders and the politicians they own. But the public deserves to hear why certain businesses are being allowed to reopen while others remain closed.
The debate over reopening theme parks in California over the past month has frustrated thousands of theme park employees and millions of theme park fans in the state. It’s not just because it has taken so long to get a straight answer about when parks might reopen. It’s because, along the way, no one at the state level stepped forward to detail exactly why theme parks needed different standards than other segments of the economy.
California Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly acknowledged “the size and operational complexities of these unique sectors” when announcing that the state would delay issuing reopening guidance for theme parks. But the state has found its way to issue guidance for many types of businesses that are part of theme park operations, including restaurants, retail, theaters, zoos, aquariums, playgrounds, museums and smaller attractions found in family entertainment centers.
I understand the need for simple, sharply focused messaging in a crisis such as this. But a desire not to confuse the public with too much detail backfires when the public needs that detail to understand what is going on.
The last thing anyone should want is for more people to check out and stop listening to state officials during this crisis. On a per capita basis, California’s death and infection rates rank below many other U.S. states — a credit to the state’s leadership on this issue. But as this pandemic drags on and people’s frustration grows, simple messages lose their effectiveness.
It’s great to see the state working with industry leaders to get parks reopen again, safely. But that work should not happen behind closed doors. The people who work in and visit the state’s theme parks deserve to know exactly what experts see as the risks inside them — and what needs to done to protect us from those risks.<<