OC Register - Disneyland and Universal Studios ask Newsom not to finalize theme park reopening plans just yet

[ToTBellHop]

So....maybe Christmas?

 

[Darkbeer1]

California to work with theme parks before issuing reopening guidelines, state officials say

California Health and Human Services secretary Mark Ghaly said that state officials will work with theme park operators to finalize reopening guidelines in a statement released by the agency.

www.ocregister.com

 

[Tamandua]

This photo of the negotiations just leaked.

 

[el_super]

This was a game of chicken and I think someone realized there are more Disney fans than Newsom fans.

No, there aren't.

Results of a poll released by the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies show that 64% of likely California voters approve of the job Gov. Newsom has done. Another 36% disapprove.​

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In CA: Newsom gets high approval rating in new poll

While Americans are preparing for the first presidential debate, Californians have given Gov. Gavin Newsom the nod of approval... on some issues.

www.usatoday.com

It seems obvious to me that Newsom is trying everything he can to accommodate Disney, without compromising safety. That's what a good leader does.

 

[SplashGhost]

A good leader does a better job of communicating and treats all businesses and people equally and fairly. No one can convince me that it is safe to open SeaWorld and Knott's without rides, but somehow opening rides makes it dangerous. If those places would be dangerous with the rides open, then they shouldn't be open at all.

 

[el_super]

A good leader does a better job of communicating and treats all businesses and people equally and fairly. No one can convince me that it is safe to open SeaWorld and Knott's without rides, but somehow opening rides makes it dangerous. If those places would be dangerous with the rides open, then they shouldn't be open at all.

The rides are the primary draw and they draw people from all over the world. That is a problem when you are tying the tracking of a virus (success and failure) to a county. A food festival at Knott's shouldn't be attracting people from out of state, but if it is, you're right and it should be shut down.

 

[Mac Tonight]

No, there aren't.

Results of a poll released by the UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies show that 64% of likely California voters approve of the job Gov. Newsom has done. Another 36% disapprove.​

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In CA: Newsom gets high approval rating in new poll

While Americans are preparing for the first presidential debate, Californians have given Gov. Gavin Newsom the nod of approval... on some issues.

www.usatoday.com

It seems obvious to me that Newsom is trying everything he can to accommodate Disney, without compromising safety. That's what a good leader does.

Also from the 4-paragraph "article":

"Nearly 50% of those surveyed said Newsom has done a good or excellent job handling the public health crisis."

By definition, this would also mean that over 50% of those surveyed said Newsom has not done a good or excellent job handling the public health crisis.

 

[Tamandua]

Also from the 4-paragraph "article":

"Nearly 50% of those surveyed said Newsom has done a good or excellent job handling the public health crisis."

By definition, this would also mean that over 50% of those surveyed said Newsom has not done a good or excellent job handling the public health crisis.

Didn't he supposedly have like 61% approval recently? If so, that's a pretty big sudden drop.

 

[Mac Tonight]

Didn't he supposedly have like 61% approval recently? If so, that's a pretty big sudden drop.

I think his overall approval rating may be at 64%, but that is incorporating everything to do with CA, not just the pandemic.

That is a more favorable headline than "less than 50% of those surveyed feel he has done a "good or excellent job" at handling the public health crisis".

The "article" also mentioned people disapproved of how he has handled homelessness and the rising cost of housing.

 

[Darkbeer1]

I think his overall approval rating may be at 64%, but that is incorporating everything to do with CA, not just the pandemic.

That is a more favorable headline than "less than 50% of those surveyed feel he has done a "good or excellent job" at handling the public health crisis".

The "article" also mentioned people disapproved of how he has handled homelessness and the rising cost of housing.

Wonder how a poll discussing how the Governor has handled the Wildfires show results.

And the power outages due to the lack of needed power in the early evenings when Solar production shuts down?

 

[SplashGhost]

The rides are the primary draw and they draw people from all over the world. That is a problem when you are tying the tracking of a virus (success and failure) to a county. A food festival at Knott's shouldn't be attracting people from out of state, but if it is, you're right and it should be shut down.

I get that the rides attract more people. However, what prevents Californians from going to Las Vegas then bringing COVID back with them?

Actually, if more things are open in California, it would encourage more people to stay locally instead of traveling out of state.

I think his overall approval rating may be at 64%, but that is incorporating everything to do with CA, not just the pandemic.

That is a more favorable headline than "less than 50% of those surveyed feel he has done a "good or excellent job" at handling the public health crisis".

The "article" also mentioned people disapproved of how he has handled homelessness and the rising cost of housing.

So basically he failed at the things I would consider the most important current issues.

 

[AJFireman]

The rides are the primary draw and they draw people from all over the world.

I would think if he had such an issue with out of state/ country travel coming into California he would place some travel restrictions like other states have done. Or would that effect business' he has ties to?

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

The rides are the primary draw and they draw people from all over the world. That is a problem when you are tying the tracking of a virus (success and failure) to a county. A food festival at Knott's shouldn't be attracting people from out of state, but if it is, you're right and it should be shut down.

Then why not still open the parks at limited capacity and set limits by zip code? But instead of waiting until the highly improbable yellow tier, perhaps be more reasonable and open during orange?

I’d argue if the state is doing such a stellar job containing the virus it’s better to have visitors come to the parks or do things locally within a 125-250 mile radius than have residents fly in airports and vacation out of state and return and spread the virus elsewhere.

 

[Mac Tonight]

Wonder how a poll discussing how the Governor has handled the Wildfires show results.

And the power outages due to the lack of needed power in the early evenings when Solar production shuts down?

So long as he keeps blaming it on climate change the "likely voters" that UC Berkley selected would probably be in his favor.

 

[el_super]

Also from the 4-paragraph "article":

"Nearly 50% of those surveyed said Newsom has done a good or excellent job handling the public health crisis."

By definition, this would also mean that over 50% of those surveyed said Newsom has not done a good or excellent job handling the public health crisis.

You're right, but its incorrect to assume that over 50% think hes doing a bad job:

The poll, conducted in mid-September by the Institute of Governmental Studies at UC Berkeley (IGS), found that 49% of voters say the governor is doing an excellent or good job managing the coronavirus, while just 28% give him a poor or very poor rating.​

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Poll: Gov. Gavin Newsom gets high marks on coronavirus but not on housing or homelessness

Overall, nearly two-thirds of all voters approve of the job California Gov. Gavin Newsom is doing.

www.mercurynews.com

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[ElvisMickey]

I'm a simple man. I see the words "Fresh Baked Disney" and I steer my ship in the opposite direction.

There's a handful of vloggers/Disney news sites that I do legitimately enjoy and appreciate the coverage from and helping keep me "in the know". But for some reason I can't stand FBD.

Fresh Baked is annoying as F.

 

[el_super]

So basically he failed at the things I would consider the most important current issues.

... You're not wrong. There are things more important in this world than theme parks. But that betrays the larger point: people overall are happy with his job performance because they don't rate theme parks as importantly as the people on this board do. That's a bias of the people here.

 

[el_super]

I would think if he had such an issue with out of state/ country travel coming into California he would place some travel restrictions like other states have done. Or would that effect business' he has ties to?

Has nothing to do with businesses he has ties to. It would impact all businesses and travel in California and wouldn't be worth the effort. There's a big difference between allowing essential business versus theme parks.

 

[Mac Tonight]

You're right, but its incorrect to assume that over 50% think hes doing a bad job:

The poll, conducted in mid-September by the Institute of Governmental Studies at UC Berkeley (IGS), found that 49% of voters say the governor is doing an excellent or good job managing the coronavirus, while just 28% give him a poor or very poor rating.​

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Poll: Gov. Gavin Newsom gets high marks on coronavirus but not on housing or homelessness

Overall, nearly two-thirds of all voters approve of the job California Gov. Gavin Newsom is doing.

www.mercurynews.com

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... so if 49% think he's doing great and only 28% think he's doing very poor... what do the remaining 23% think? Or did they decline to answer?

Couldn't read the full article before it blocked me out.

 

[el_super]

Then why not still open the parks at limited capacity and set limits by zip code? But instead of waiting until the highly improbable yellow tier, perhaps be more reasonable and open during orange?

Maybe...? I don't think you're that far off, but I think if anything Disney is objecting to the travel restrictions because they need their hotel occupancy over anything else.