OC Register - Disneyland and Universal Studios ask Newsom not to finalize theme park reopening plans just yet

BubbaisSleep

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That has to be one of my favorite dumb rumors to come out of this mess; that Disneyland would somehow "move" to Arizona or Texas. How are people that dumb?
I had to hold back a bit of a chuckle as my imagination immediately went to someone just picking up Space Mountain & throwing it like a Frisbee into Texas. DLR must be the most glamorous carnival I've ever seen. PACK IT UP!

Interesting thought while looking at those DHS crowd photos. If this is how Disney is packing the parks during these times, I really can't see Disney not try & push up the capacity even more for the Holiday season. Going to be an interesting year as we haven't passed the two biggest holidays yet & it looks like DLR will miss both.
 
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TP2000

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Wait, does that mean I win? I flew right over the thing?

Cause Oregon is still kicking Switzerland's behind on Covid. Go Ducks! And California still beats France, and Texas still beats the United Kingdom.
 
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TP2000

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For those outside the paywall...

You may recall that in March, the American public was bombarded with an image illustrating the concept of "flatteting the curve" of COVID-19. It typically showed a tall, red, angry-looking lump that resembled something out of a Road Runner cartoon after the coyote gets hit on the head by a falling boulder. This illustrated the projected course of the COVID-19 outbreak “without protective measures” to slow the spread of infection.
Overlaying the giant red lump was a soft wave, typically shown in soothing blue, that showed the projected course of the outbreak “with protective measures.”

What these two projections had in common was this: either way, the thing ends. The number of infections goes up, and then it goes down, and then it’s over. The difference between taking protective measures or not is how fast the number of infections rises, and whether the outbreak overwhelms the capacity of the health care system at a point in time.

Either way, doing everything or nothing, the outbreak ends. That was in March. Now it’s October. In California, the state government – that is, Gov. Gavin Newsom alone, without any constitutional checks on his power – is inventing a way to make sure the COVID-19 emergency never ends. It’s called “health equity.”

The Newsom administration released what it calls “The Blueprint for a Safer Economy.” No longer measuring hospitalizations or worrying about the potential for the medical system to be overwhelmed, the Blueprint relies on two measures to determine when a county can move to a “less restrictive tier” that allows more businesses to open and more “interaction among residents.” These measures are “case rate” and “test positivity.”
However, something new has been added to the requirements that larger counties must meet before the governor will allow commerce and the free movement of people.

“In order to advance to the next less restrictive tier, depending on its size, a county will need to meet an equity metric and/or demonstrate targeted investments to eliminate disparities in levels of transmission,” the Blueprint says.
What’s an equity metric?
“A county with a population of greater than 106,000” must ensure that the test positivity rates “in its most disadvantaged neighborhoods” do not “significantly lag behind its overall county test positivity rate.”
What’s the definition of a “most disadvantaged neighborhood”?
It’s defined as “being in the lowest quartile of the Healthy Places Index census tracts.”
What’s the “Healthy Places Index”?
“The California Healthy Places Index (HPI) is a composite measure of socioeconomic opportunity applied to census tracts that includes 25 individual indicators across economic, social, education, transportation, housing, environmental and neighborhood sectors.”
It’s starting to sound like businesses can’t open until “targeted investments” are made to solve every problem in California.
The technical term for this policy is “circling the drain.” Unless businesses open and people can work, the stream of incoming tax revenue that makes public investments possible will continue to shrivel. Public revenue has declined during the lockdown, leaving cities, counties and the state in fiscal straits. To fix this, the governor favors the massive tax increase of Proposition 15, along with calls to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to ask about more federal relief funds.
Poverty is a severe problem in California, the state with the highest poverty rate in the nation when the cost of living is taken into account. About a third of state residents live below the poverty line or close to it.
One thing that reduces poverty is employment. It will never be possible for government benefits to equal the financial gains that are possible when people can find good jobs at decent wages.
California’s blithering idiocy on economic policy has created an Alice-in-Wonderland world where lucrative freelance work is banned by law, where local economic engines such as theme parks, which have safely reopened in other states, are forbidden to operate, and where counties are being held hostage to the whims and agenda of one public official.
In late September, the Kern County Board of Supervisors voted to push back against yet another revision of the governor’s plan to reopen counties, a data algorithm used to “adjust” a county’s COVID-19 case and positivity rates.
For example, in the week ending September 12, Kern County residents were tested for COVID at a rate lower than the state median. So the algorithm was used to bump up the case rate in the county from the raw number of 6.3 per 100,000 to an adjusted number of 7.2 per 100,000.
That was enough to keep the county from advancing to a less restrictive tier. The cutoff was 7 per 100,000.
Kern County officials argued that the case rate adjustment is arbitrary and has no clinical relevance. County Administrator Ryan Alsop told reporters, “This new criteria unnecessarily burdens our residents, parents and children, further slowing business and school reopening. It unnecessarily and arbitrarily penalizes counties who have little to no control over voluntary and individual decision-making relative to testing for COVID-19.”
Because the number of people who choose to be tested in each county will fluctuate, the state median is constantly changing, and that makes the adjusted case rate a moving target.
All the targets are arbitrary. The equity metric is particularly arbitrary and seems designed to assert state control over how counties spend grant funds allocated to them for the pandemic response. As a condition of moving to a less restrictive tier, counties will be required to “submit a plan” that “defines its disproportionately impacted populations, specifies the percent of its COVID-19 cases in these populations, and shows that it plans to invest” its grant funds on state-approved priorities.

The evidence continues to accumulate that the governor is using the COVID-19 pandemic as an excuse to implement policies through emergency action that he could never get through the Legislature or past the voters.
The emergency is over. We’re clearly on the downslope of the red lump. It’s time for regular constitutional government to return in California. It’s past time for everyone to remember that power belongs not to the people who hold it, but to the people who grant it.
 

socalifornian

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I had to hold back a bit of a chuckle as my imagination immediately went to someone just picking up Space Mountain & throwing it like a Frisbee into Texas. DLR must be the most glamorous carnival I've ever seen. PACK IT UP!

Interesting thought while looking at those DHS crowd photos. If this is how Disney is packing the parks during these times, I really can't see Disney not try & push it up the capacity even more for the Holiday season. Going to be an interesting year as we haven't passed the two biggest holidays yet & it looks like DLR will miss both.
They’re running nationals for the holiday season in these times, I could see it
 

Gottalovepluto

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I've posted this before but imo I am thinking newsome is trying to lockdown california without officially saying it. Universal and Disneyland are the two biggest tourist destinations in california (and will be the safest as we have seen in florida) , he wants numbers to go down. If they open, it'll encourage out of state travelers to come here and potentially spike covid numbers even more. Museums and zoos can be open bc who from another state will travel when they go to one in their own backyard. knott's and other theme parks probably won't encourage out of state people as the other two but they can't let them open and not disney and universal. So they're stuck in the middle of it all.
The higher a state’s unemployment rate the more federal stimulus money they will get eventually, someday, in the next inevitable Covid stimulus bill. Money that the California government has already publicly stated they plan on receiving. Good unemployment numbers will make the amount of stimulus money they already have planned on spending less.

It doesn’t take a genius to see why some major employers aren’t being allowed to open. Washington passes a COVID bill then DLR gets a chance to open up imho. After the funds have reached CA’s bank account.
 

cmwade77

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The higher a state’s unemployment rate the more federal stimulus money they will get eventually, someday, in the next inevitable Covid stimulus bill. Money that the California government has already publicly stated they plan on receiving. Good unemployment numbers will make the amount of stimulus money they already have planned on spending less.

It doesn’t take a genius to see why some major employers aren’t being allowed to open. Washington passes a COVID bill then DLR gets a chance to open up imho. After the funds have reached CA’s bank account.
How about the federal government coming out and flat out saying they will NOT bail out states that have not done everything they can for themselves, like allowing businesses to reopen? That is what they need to do, make it clear California won't get a single penny because the government is keeping things closed intentionally.
 

denyuntilcaught

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How about the federal government coming out and flat out saying they will NOT bail out states that have not done everything they can for themselves, like allowing businesses to reopen? That is what they need to do, make it clear California won't get a single penny because the government is keeping things closed intentionally.

Yeah that's not how it should really work.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I've posted this before but imo I am thinking newsome is trying to lockdown california without officially saying it. Universal and Disneyland are the two biggest tourist destinations in california (and will be the safest as we have seen in florida) , he wants numbers to go down. If they open, it'll encourage out of state travelers to come here and potentially spike covid numbers even more. Museums and zoos can be open bc who from another state will travel when they go to one in their own backyard. knott's and other theme parks probably won't encourage out of state people as the other two but they can't let them open and not disney and universal. So they're stuck in the middle of it all.
It’s that’s his plan it’s failing miserably, I live in Las Vegas and there’s thousands of CA license plates on the strip ever day, I have friends in Arizona that say they see the same, he may be keeping tourists out of California but he’s driving his own residents to travel elsewhere for fun.

Any benefit that may happen from staying closed is being undone by his own residents traveling, I know a half dozen DL AP holders that are going to WDW next month, if DL were open they’d be staying in CA.
 

Gottalovepluto

Active Member
It’s that’s his plan it’s failing miserably, I live in Las Vegas and there’s thousands of CA license plates on the strip ever day, I have friends in Arizona that say they see the same, he may be keeping tourists out of California but he’s driving his own residents to travel elsewhere for fun.

Any benefit that may happen from staying closed is being undone by his own residents traveling, I know a half dozen DL AP holders that are going to WDW next month, if DL were open they’d be staying in CA.
Honestly I think his plan is winning in that case as all those jobs aren’t in CA bringing down our unemployment rate.

(Are we suffering an immense amount of long term economic damage? For sure. Will he get a big huge massive chunk of change to spend as he wants in the short term from Uncle Sam in exchange for this destruction? We shall see...)
 

JustinSt

Active Member
Newson just hinted that he is sending a team to Florida this week, To look at the operations of WDW. This is great, just don’t know why it wasn’t done earlier.
 

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