Now this is a terrific idea - Magic Kingdom eateries take control of seating

Buzz2001

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Magic Kingdom eateries take control of seating to boost efficiency and help diners relax

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'Sheriff' Sonny Mattice assists guests for seating during the lunch hour at the Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn and Cafe in Frontierland, at the Magic Kingdom. The restaurant is using a new pilot program, including seating assistance, to reduce wait times by creating more efficiency in food ordering and seating at that popular eatery.

Walt Disney World is experimenting with new crowd-control methods in some of its busiest in-park restaurants, hoping to make the facilities more pleasant for guests and more profitable for the resort.

Inside four quick-service restaurants in the Magic Kingdom, Disney has begun restricting access — but guaranteeing seating — during particularly busy lunch rushes. Managers say the approach helps smooth out traffic in part by eliminating the need for groups to split up and send someone to order food while another person holds an open table — something that can clog up as much as one-third of a restaurant's capacity at any given time.

"This has been very helpful for us from an efficiency standpoint, because everything's so well-organized," said Liz Clark, general manager of food and beverage in the Magic Kingdom.

The tinkering illustrates one of the small ways theme parks have sought to squeeze more money out of existing operations — beyond top-level cost cuts — in the midst of a recession that has sapped attendance and guest spending.

Disney does not break out how much restaurant sales contribute to the revenue of individual theme parks. But experts say it is substantial.

"The food-and-beverage operations are very significant in the overall bottom line," said Mary Jo Ross, a former multi-unit restaurant manager at Universal Orlando and an assistant professor at the University of Central Florida's Rosen College of Hospitality Management.

Disney says the restaurant changes are part of an internal initiative called "The Basics," in which employees have been urged to re-emphasize customer service.

Busy, in-park restaurants are an obvious target for improvements; around noon on a busy day, they can rival the longest ride queues in terms of crowds, noise and stress levels.

"It wasn't really a good way to decompress or relax. So we've been really focusing on how we can enhance the whole dining experience," Clark said.

Under the controlled-access and -seating program, guests in certain Magic Kingdom counter-service restaurants are steered through a single entrance so workers can keep tabs on how many people are inside.

A greeter hands menus and steers the entire group to cash registers to place their orders. After they get their food, they are guided by another employee to an empty table.

Implementing the change is trickier than it may sound. For example, the restaurants have multiple entrances, so Disney restaurant managers have had to work with the resort's "Imagineers" to work out new ways of guiding traffic through a single point.

Clark said the program has already evolved based on feedback from guests. The menus that greeters hand out were initially only available in English and were done entirely in text; they have since been changed to include multiple languages, pictures of the menu selections, and information about using a pre-purchased dining plan that Disney sells to resort guests.

Disney began testing the concept in the Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn and Café. But it has since been rolled out to three other busy counter-service restaurants: Columbia Harbour House, Pinocchio Village Haus and Cosmic Ray's Starlight Café. Those restaurants range in size from about 400 seats to more than 1,000 at Pecos Bill and Cosmic Ray's.

The controlled access is used only when that day's park attendance warrants.

Clark said the results have been overwhelmingly positive, both in terms of praise from guests who report a more-relaxed dining experience and in terms of reducing congestion inside the restaurants, where, like on a busy highway, small backups can cascade over the course of a day into lengthier delays.

Disney has also made other, subtler changes. At Pecos Bill, for instance, the resort has added self-service ordering kiosks, though guests can still opt to order from a human cashier.

Workers also recently replaced highly themed, high-backed chairs at Pecos Bill with smaller, less clunky stools. The switch, which Disney said was made on the suggestion of a restaurant worker, has allowed the restaurant to add an extra seat at many tables and improved the aisles between tables, helping alleviate further bottlenecks.


Orlando Sentinel Article
 

coltow

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This is a horrible idea. I do not want my kids to wait in line with me to get food. This is going to create chaos at the registers if everyone has to be there before sitting down.
 

happymom52003

Active Member
I think it is a great idea for peak times. It is very annoying to be walking around with a tray of food and not be able to find a table...especially when a good percentage of the tables have people sitting at them that do not have their food yet.

I understand that it is nice to be able to sit the kids down with one parent while the other parent waits in line...we do that all of the time. However, I'd rather have my kids wait in the food line with me and know that I will be able to get a table without having to stalk the tables....table stalking stresses me out! :lol: The kids wait in much longer lines for rides all day, so waiting in line for food should not be too different.

But I can see both sides of the argument.
 

happymom52003

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Another thought...there are many people who do not have anyone to watch their kids while they wait in line anyway (single parents, etc). There have even been times when I've been at the parks with one or both of my kids without my husband or someone else to watch the kids....so they have to wait in line with me anyway. Table stalking with a tray full of food AND your kids with you is really not fun! So this new way of seating will be very helpful for the people who visit during peak times who do not have anyone to help watch their kids.
 

captain marvel1

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in regards to the tables

The idea is being changed slightly. One of my friends sister is a Disney imaginer at the park and their looking in to the matter. thank you for your concerns its currently being addressed and handled.
 

yankspy

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It could be a good idea but if they are having that much trouble with capacity at peak times then why not open the Veranda, etc. I could go for a teriyaki burger right now.:slurp:
 

wdwmomof3

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Either way is fine with me because I'm all for making things easier, but I really feel like they need more places to eat there. We normally eat at 11:00 so it's not to busy, but by 11:30 or 12:00 it's packed in most places.
 

captain marvel1

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i agree about slow and fast times

I took my mom and the only restaurant that wasn't full was the space restaurant. the waitress kept saying sorry you have to have a reservation or we are full try another restaurant. which is not good if you have someone with low blood sugar and health problems and it was only 2 people me and her not like it was a family of 10.
 

Phonedave

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While I can understand people not wanting to clog up the lines with kids, I think the ability to not have to "hover" over a table far outweighs that small problem.

If you have a CM acting as a "seater", you eliminate a lot of the crowding that results from people wandering around with full trays. You also eliminate the (IMHO rude) practice of people "claiming" you table as you are close to eating. Maybe it's just me, but I like to eat at my pace. If I am close to finishing my meal, I don't want some family hovering over me with their full trays wating for me to finish so they can swoop in and grab my table.

If having kids in line with you is really such a big deal then have them go somewhere else, like the bathroom, while you get the food. Or, I assume they can wait in the "waited to be seated" area.

-dave
 

Scooter

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I don't care for this idea at all.

I'm not fond of standing in lines so my wife orders and I find a table for us.
I prefer to dine away from people with small children so I try and find the most isolated tables in the place.

I have visions of castmembers herding people into rooms and filling in all the tables front to back or vice versa while in the next room the tables may be completely empty.

It reminds me of shows like The Muppets where they want you to go all the way down to the end of the rows but after you sit down you notice that half your row is empty and you are stuck in a lousy seat because it wasn't a full show after all.
 

Phonedave

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I took my mom and the only restaurant that wasn't full was the space restaurant. the waitress kept saying sorry you have to have a reservation or we are full try another restaurant. which is not good if you have someone with low blood sugar and health problems and it was only 2 people me and her not like it was a family of 10.


While I fully understand and commiserate about your mothers condition, I think you would have benefitted from some pre-trip planning.

ANY table service restaruant (where you sit, and a server comes and takes your order) will require a reservation. WDW has been that way for quite some time now. Many of us are not happy with it, but free dining and the DDP in gereral have overwhelmed the places.

QSFB locations do not have reservations. The "space restaruant" I assume is Cosmic Ray's. That is a QSFB location (Counter service). There is aslo Pecos Bill's & the Village Haus. In addition there are are other that are open seasonally - such as Tomorrowland Noodle Station and El Pirate Y Perico.

There are also loads of stands and kiosks that have food, if your mothers blood sugar was dropping that quickly

If it was indeed a medical emergency, then of course First Aid should have been involved.

But, the fact is the Table Service locations are booked to capacity. 2 people take up a table - most of the time a 4-top, as there are very few, if any, 2 seat tables. Shoehorning you in, while a nice thing to do, would have bumped someone who did make a reservation.


-dave
 

Phonedave

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I don't care for this idea at all.

I'm not fond of standing in lines

And you choose to vacation at WDW ??!!!?!?!??! :)

so my wife orders and I find a table for us.
I prefer to dine away from people with small children so I try and find the most isolated tables in the place.

I have visions of castmembers herding people into rooms and filling in all the tables front to back or vice versa while in the next room the tables may be completely empty.

It reminds me of shows like The Muppets where they want you to go all the way down to the end of the rows but after you sit down you notice that half your row is empty and you are stuck in a lousy seat because it wasn't a full show after all.


They are only doing this at peak times, when the place is packed. If there are rooms with scads of open tables, then you can go and pick your seat.

What this ensures is that if I arrive at the place before you, I get a seat before you, in a calm and orderly manner. It eliminates people running around a crowded restaruant trying to find that one open table, while others are also carrying around trays of food.

It would not be filling the tables front to back. Its once the place is filled, the CM holds the diners in a queue, and when they next table opens up, they escort you to it - at a calm, orderly, walking pace.



-dave
 

corey154

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I personally like being able to sit while the other half of our party gets the food. I can start giving the baby his food while we wait for ours, but we should be willing to try it so if they this will be better in the long run than i think we should not complain untill we try it. You have to remember, Disney is just trying to make things better for us.
 

rsoxguy

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Hmm... I'm really not sure of what to think about this new arrangement. On the one hand, I understand what the Disney folks are saying. Some of the counter service restaurants (Pecos Bill being the worst) can be a real zoo as people wander and hover over tables while balancing their drinks on a tray. On the other hand, I have always had my daughter find a table while my wife and I ordered the food. This arrangement has saved us a lot of time and effort. I guess I'll have to experience the new system myself before I can pass judgment. Yet another reason to go to WDW soon.
 

PKD

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This is a great new idea, as it's really annoying to have to walk around for a table to eat the food you bought when all the tables are taken up by people who haven't purchased their food yet.

When you have your food in hand, it's not fair to have another party taking up an entire table just cause they had "extra" people in their party who could take that table away from you while you bought your food. This new program puts everyone on the same playing field and as equals.

Some folks need to be considerate of other guest and realize, that if they get their food first, then they should get a table first. Simple as that. PhoneDave is dead on.
 

mousefan1972

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We have already experienced this system at Pecos Bill's during the busy Christmas season. Last year on Christmas Eve we went there for lunch right before the first showing of the Once Upon a Christmastime parade; I think it was a little before noon. The place was PACKED. I mean, crazy busy. CM's were stationed around the seating area and were not allowing people without food to "hold" tables. Since the lines for food were very long, it could potentially be quite awhile before your party returned with your meals. So to avoid having guests not have a place to sit who DID have their food, the CM's did not allow table holding, and instead would direct each party to an open table as they exited the food line. It was seamless, and it was very nice to avoid the "table stalking" (as Happymom so eloquently put it, lol) that everyone dreads.
 

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