RiversideBunny
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Pumbas, why did you post a picture of a lamb chop?
I think that's what it is.
I think that's what it is.
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Krack2
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Ah, but people have to be somewhere. It's physics; matter occupies space. People are matter. If they are not in line for the attraction they are holding a FastPass for, they must be somewhere else. They may not be taking up space on a minor attraction with a walk-on line, but they must be somewhere in the park taking up space. Nine times out of Ten, they are on a line somewhere else (another attraction, and eatery, a food cart) making that line longer than it would have been had they not been holding a FastPass.
They have to be somewhere. The FastPass machines don't teleport people out of the park and return them when the pass becomes usable. It only says "You get to ride this ride at a specific time while waiting on a much shorter line, but now you must go somewhere else and make that line longer than it would normally be".
If you took the total amount of visitors to the Magic Kingdom for a specific day, and then took the total amount of time the average visitor spends waiting in line during that day, and multiplied them together to get the total amount of time visitors spent in line, in the park that day ... that number is going to be the same with or without FastPass. It has to be.
That is exactly what I'm trying to say. But the arguement against it seems to be that when there used to be zero wait, now their is a 5 minute wait.
I dont necessarily agree with that though.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
You would prove that you have hairy palms and are in need of some companionship.
However, I think youve just confirmed what Disney was trying to do, which was to distribute guests more widely, and while you may be technicaly correct that a 1 min wait is shorter than a 2 min wait, most normal people would accept that is a gnats tadger and not worth taking note of.
DisneyLeo18
Active Member
Mean while, the people returning at 2:00 with their fastpasses makes my wait for peter pan longer and a 30 minute wait turns into a 45-50 minute wait.
If the implementation was on certain rides and excluded omnimovers I would be highly in favor of this system, but it doesn't. It causes me to wait 20 minutes to ride Buzz instead of walking on. I know some might say "just get a fastpass" but the point is fastpass shouldn't be available. And I think most people here agree with that.
If the implementation was on certain rides and excluded omnimovers I would be highly in favor of this system, but it doesn't. It causes me to wait 20 minutes to ride Buzz instead of walking on. I know some might say "just get a fastpass" but the point is fastpass shouldn't be available. And I think most people here agree with that.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Pumbas, why did you post a picture of a lamb chop?
I think that's what it is.
Lamenting at the arrival of the moms axe, yet again.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Based on what?
GoochDSA
Well-Known Member
These are the people that make not using FP worth the waiting. To watch them go from content
to confused :shrug: to upset 
to mad to angry :fork: to just flat out defeated :brick: , is almost as entertaining than any attraction that any of the parks have to offer.
Innoventions
Member
Its his opinion, he can only be correct
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
[FONT="]I’m of the opinion that his opinion is ill formed, poorly expressed and flies in the face of the statistical evidence provided by the posts on this site.
However we both know thats not what you meant.[/FONT]
Innoventions
Member
TO be honest it was, hard to express sarcasm online:brick
for me anyway)Since its "his" opinion he has to be correct everyone else is wrong
DisneyLeo18
Active Member
I was just saying it seems to me a lot of poeple don't mind FP except on attractions where the line would be continuously moving.
And this is based purely on nothing other than what I seem to read a lot. Then again it may just stand out to me because I share the same feeling.:wave:
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Id argue that most people dont think that deeply about FP, and take it for what it is, a shot cut.
But I LOVE lamb chops! :slurp:
I've read the last 30 posts or so and am no fan of fast pass. I should note that a year or two ago, I started a fp discussion and several Disney employees said that overall waits are shorter with fp in place. They wouldn't explain the logic behind the argument, but did say that this concept was "tested" without explaining how it was tested. I throw this out in case someone who is in the know wants to clarify, because I'm fascinated.