No eating, drinking, smoking, and... TALKING!

[unkadug]

"Once again"...where in any of my posts have I said the rule breakers are right? :brick:

There are right ways, and there are wrong ways, to "attempt to correct the situation". In the venue in which this CM appears to have worked, I believe he handled it the wrong way. Do I have the answer off the top of my head, as to what would be the right way? No. But that's something that I, as a paying guest, leave up to Disney management to solve. Make sense?

By the way, word of advice....People will take your opinion more seriously if you take the time to read THEIR posts more carefully. :animwink:

You already proved yourself to me in the Orlando man Charged in Theme Park Scheme thread.

I could care less how you take my opinion.

 

[XaiChai]

If you're from another country, by all means welcome to WDW - but here in America we don't talk during movies and shows.

Okay, what does being from another country have to do with people talking during movies and shows? I'm from another country and I don't talk during shows. Americans talk during shows just as much as other people.

 

[tigfan]

You already proved yourself to me in the thread.

I could care less how you take my opinion.

Hmmmm...Hold grudges much? What happened to putting me on your "ignore" list?

 

[unkadug]

Okay, what does being from another country have to do with people talking during movies and shows? I'm from another country and I don't talk during shows. Americans talk during shows just as much as other people.

You are so right! Class knows no borders.

 

[tigfan]

Okay, what does being from another country have to do with people talking during movies and shows? I'm from another country and I don't talk during shows. Americans talk during shows just as much as other people.

LOL! I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that comment. We Americans definitely have our fair share of people who talk during movies, shows, rides, etc. :lol:

 

[unkadug]

Hmmmm...Hold grudges much? What happened to putting me on your "ignore" list?

Grudge? Hardly, there's more important things than to worry about you. But your attitude and posting style hasn't changed.

As far as the ignore list, I only gave the link for other people and will again.

Add tigfan to your Ignore List

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

I was never really much against flash photos in rides, i found them annoying but coped.. until Nemo and Grand Fiesta opened at Epcot.

My ride on Nemo was a flash every 5 seconds from both two vehicles infront of me and the vehicle deirectly behind me. It was beyond annoying.

Further, Grand Fiesta - this woman kept turning around to take photos and literally blidinging me because she was pointing the camera right at me.

Around the "small world" section I became proactive. I turned on my camera and decided to put her little point and shoot to shame. I just had my camera sitting and waiting. Everytime she spun around to take a photo and blinded me I took a photo with my much more powerful flash.

The first time she looked shocked and seemingly didn't understand what had just happened. The second she looked annoyed, and the third she looked downright irate. I have the photos to prove it

By the fourth time she swung around to take a shot (remember, this started with me doing it in the small world scene) we were to the Fiesta and she pointed, went to shoot, and stopped as I raised my camera right at her and smiled. She huffed and stopped for the rest of the ride.

Not altogether very nice, Merf, but if it was as bad you describe, I can't say that I blame you for doing it. The ending is great: "I raised my camera and smiled..." :lol:

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I think merf owes us a few photos after that anecdote.

 

[tigfan]

I was never really much against flash photos in rides, i found them annoying but coped.. until Nemo and Grand Fiesta opened at Epcot.

My ride on Nemo was a flash every 5 seconds from both two vehicles infront of me and the vehicle deirectly behind me. It was beyond annoying.

Further, Grand Fiesta - this woman kept turning around to take photos and literally blidinging me because she was pointing the camera right at me.

Around the "small world" section I became proactive. I turned on my camera and decided to put her little point and shoot to shame. I just had my camera sitting and waiting. Everytime she spun around to take a photo and blinded me I took a photo with my much more powerful flash.

The first time she looked shocked and seemingly didn't understand what had just happened. The second she looked annoyed, and the third she looked downright irate. I have the photos to prove it

By the fourth time she swung around to take a shot (remember, this started with me doing it in the small world scene) we were to the Fiesta and she pointed, went to shoot, and stopped as I raised my camera right at her and smiled. She huffed and stopped for the rest of the ride.

Now to that degree I could see where it could get a tad annoying. And I have to admit, it would be hilarious to see those pictures.

 

[yankspy]

I think merf owes us a few photos after that anecdote.

It would be even funnier if they were pictures of a member of this site.:lol:

 

[tigfan]

Grudge? Hardly, there's more important things than to worry about you. But your attitude and posting style hasn't changed.

As far as the ignore list, I only gave the link for other people and will again.

Add tigfan to your Ignore List

Well if my posting style bothers you as much as it seems to, don't you think the solution is to put me on your own ignore list...rather than trying to campaign for others to do it? After all, isn't that kind of a childish approach coming from someone who claims to have "more important things to do than to worry about (me)"? :animwink:

 

[XaiChai]

I was never really much against flash photos in rides, i found them annoying but coped.. until Nemo and Grand Fiesta opened at Epcot.

My ride on Nemo was a flash every 5 seconds from both two vehicles infront of me and the vehicle deirectly behind me. It was beyond annoying.

Further, Grand Fiesta - this woman kept turning around to take photos and literally blidinging me because she was pointing the camera right at me.

Around the "small world" section I became proactive. I turned on my camera and decided to put her little point and shoot to shame. I just had my camera sitting and waiting. Everytime she spun around to take a photo and blinded me I took a photo with my much more powerful flash.

The first time she looked shocked and seemingly didn't understand what had just happened. The second she looked annoyed, and the third she looked downright irate. I have the photos to prove it

By the fourth time she swung around to take a shot (remember, this started with me doing it in the small world scene) we were to the Fiesta and she pointed, went to shoot, and stopped as I raised my camera right at her and smiled. She huffed and stopped for the rest of the ride.

Wow...thats not very nice. There are other ways to deal with those situations...you know, maybe the lady didn't even know it bothered you. You could have kindly asked her to stop.

 

[unkadug]

Well if my posting style bothers you as much as it seems to, don't you think the solution is to put me on your own ignore list...rather than trying to campaign for others to do it? After all, isn't that kind of a childish approach coming from someone who claims to have "more important things to do than to worry about (me)"? :animwink:

Nobody's campaigning anything, and you are on my ignore list, I just choose to read the posts anyway.

 

[InfernalPenguin]

I was never really much against flash photos in rides, i found them annoying but coped.. until Nemo and Grand Fiesta opened at Epcot.

My ride on Nemo was a flash every 5 seconds from both two vehicles infront of me and the vehicle deirectly behind me. It was beyond annoying.

Further, Grand Fiesta - this woman kept turning around to take photos and literally blidinging me because she was pointing the camera right at me.

Around the "small world" section I became proactive. I turned on my camera and decided to put her little point and shoot to shame. I just had my camera sitting and waiting. Everytime she spun around to take a photo and blinded me I took a photo with my much more powerful flash.

The first time she looked shocked and seemingly didn't understand what had just happened. The second she looked annoyed, and the third she looked downright irate. I have the photos to prove it

By the fourth time she swung around to take a shot (remember, this started with me doing it in the small world scene) we were to the Fiesta and she pointed, went to shoot, and stopped as I raised my camera right at her and smiled. She huffed and stopped for the rest of the ride.

I am absolutely NOT condoning flash pictures in rides.

It ticks me off. It bothers me like crazy. I think the equivalent would be listening to a song you really like but having it peppered with loud beeps every 20 seconds.

HOWEVER... if that story's true (I'm just sayin'), I would like to say something about how it was handled.

Witness if you will the 70 year old family member I usually travel with and facilitate. She is OLD. She is a baby boomer. If you want to talk about "It's my party and I cry if I want to", she was the inspiration for that phrase.

We're on PotC... actually it happened on a few rides, but Pirates is the one that most bothered me... and she starts snapping away like she's trying to scare gremlins off the set. P#*$^@ me off, actually. I very firmly (as firmly as a youngin' like me can tell his senior. Maybe even a bit firmer) told her that she shouldn't be doing that. She got upset and kept going just to spite me.


Now then, put yourself in the backseat and pull that same sort of payback move you just described (put on your Guy Fawkes mask while you're at it).

You think she'll react? No. She's just gonna get ticked off. You will awaken the sleeping giant. And last time that happened in the last century there was fallout and person-shaped grease stains left in the wake.

You just spent most of the ride angry, seeking vengeance, not actually ENJOYING it, and at the end you didn't solve the problem, you just took someone down with you... with the possibility of the dispute escalating to further heights.


Now, my grandmother isn't the only person with this attitude. There are bigger men, meaner women, and older geezers probably willing to pick a bigger fight. Is that the way you want to spend your vacation? Donning your stretchy pants and cape and thwarting rudeness whilst sacrificing your holiday?

In my experience (remember... I get angry too. Probably at even more things. Ask my girlfriend, I am the most grumpy, sensitive, hard-headed person) it's best to take a page from The Art of War... or Ghandi if you like the other spectrum, and realize that you've won when you don't fight at all.

 

[XaiChai]

yessssss...the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right" comes to mind

 

[mousermerf]

I don't have to justify my actions to you and the best part is that I really don't give a crap what you think, i was just sharing an anecdotal story which I found humerous.

She was annoying, i had gotten her to stop blinding everyone else in the boat (she was row 1, i was row 2, the other rows clapped when she stopped).

 

[XaiChai]

I don't have to justify my actions to you and the best part is that I really don't give a crap what you think, i was just sharing an anecdotal story which I found humerous.

She was annoying, i had gotten her to stop blinding everyone else in the boat (she was row 1, i was row 2, the other rows clapped when she stopped).

whoa whoa whoa...lets bring it down a few notches Hulk. We all have a right to express our opinions.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

yessssss...the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right" comes to mind

So does the saying "Vengeance is sweet."






Not that I would do what Marf did in that situation, its just that U thought I would offer the opposing side of that quote.

EDIT: That U should be an I.

 

[tigfan]

I am absolutely NOT condoning flash pictures in rides.

It ticks me off. It bothers me like crazy. I think the equivalent would be listening to a song you really like but having it peppered with loud beeps every 20 seconds.

HOWEVER... if that story's true (I'm just sayin'), I would like to say something about how it was handled.

Witness if you will the 70 year old family member I usually travel with and facilitate. She is OLD. She is a baby boomer. If you want to talk about "It's my party and I cry if I want to", she was the inspiration for that phrase.

We're on PotC... actually it happened on a few rides, but Pirates is the one that most bothered me... and she starts snapping away like she's trying to scare gremlins off the set. P#*$^@ me off, actually. I very firmly (as firmly as a youngin' like me can tell his senior. Maybe even a bit firmer) told her that she shouldn't be doing that. She got upset and kept going just to spite me.


Now then, put yourself in the backseat and pull that same sort of payback move you just described (put on your Guy Fawkes mask while you're at it).

You think she'll react? No. She's just gonna get ticked off. You will awaken the sleeping giant. And last time that happened in the last century there was fallout and person-shaped grease stains left in the wake.

You just spent most of the ride angry, seeking vengeance, not actually ENJOYING it, and at the end you didn't solve the problem, you just took someone down with you... with the possibility of the dispute escalating to further heights.


Now, my grandmother isn't the only person with this attitude. There are bigger men, meaner women, and older geezers probably willing to pick a bigger fight. Is that the way you want to spend your vacation? Donning your stretchy pants and cape and thwarting rudeness whilst sacrificing your holiday?

In my experience (remember... I get angry too. Probably at even more things. Ask my girlfriend, I am the most grumpy, sensitive, hard-headed person) it's best to take a page from The Art of War... or Ghandi if you like the other spectrum, and realize that you've won when you don't fight at all.

You do raise a good point here. It reminds me of this friend I have who, any time someone is tailgating him, he'll slow down to a crawl instead of just getting over into the next lane. I know he does it thinking that he is somehow teaching the tailgater a lesson. But what are the odds that tailgater is going home and thinking, "Gosh that driver in front of me really put me in my place. I sure was wrong to do that." Plus, I'm always worried that one of these days someone will pull a gun on him or something.

 

[InfernalPenguin]

I don't have to justify my actions to you and the best part is that I really don't give a crap what you think, i was just sharing an anecdotal story which I found humerous.

She was annoying, i had gotten her to stop blinding everyone else in the boat (she was row 1, i was row 2, the other rows clapped when she stopped).

I'm just saying maybe there was a better way to handle the situation. No need to get all hostile and try to whack my head off...


I see a pattern here.

You do raise a good point here. It reminds me of this friend I have who, any time someone is tailgating him, he'll slow down to a crawl instead of just getting over into the next lane. I know he does it thinking that he is somehow teaching the tailgater a lesson. But what are the odds that tailgater is going home and thinking, "Gosh that driver in front of me really put me in my place. I sure was wrong to do that." Plus, I'm always worried that one of these days someone will pull a gun on him or something.

That's precisely my point. In fact, my family's always told me that too whenever they catch me getting angry at somebody. I mean, hehe, I seriously doubt somebody'll pull a gun at disney, but the same principle applies.