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NFL 2019-20 Discussion Thread
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Dead2009
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There's a major difference between getting hit in the head with a baseball (mind you, they're wearing helmets 100% of the time when that happens) and hitting someone who isn't wearing a helmet in the head with another football helmet.
Dead2009
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6 games for intentionally using a helmet as a weapon is a garbage suspension. If players are indefinitely suspended for banned substances, this dude definitely needs to be suspended for longer than that.
Tony Perkis
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Players aren’t banned indefinitely for banned substances. The first offense begins at 4 games, 1 year for a second offense, and a third offense is not specified, as it has never happened.
First offense for domestic abuse is 8 games, second offense is a lifetime banned.
By the metric previously established in the latter, if you think what Garrett did is worth a lifetime ban, then you’re then saying that what he did is worse than beating your significant other. In my eyes, that’d be a major inconsistency.
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Dead2009
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Yeah Josh Gordon has been indefinitely suspended twice while on the Browns and Patriots
Martavis Bryant was also indefinitely suspended for violating the substance abuse policy
What Garrett did was an on the field incident and definitely needs to be punished more harshly than he would be if it were an off the field one. Getting 6 games for something that could be considered assault in other instances is the NFL saying "make sure you keep your temper in check and dont do it again.". Garbage suggestion.
Martavis Bryant was also indefinitely suspended for violating the substance abuse policy
Martavis Bryant suspended indefinitely by NFL
www.nfl.com
What Garrett did was an on the field incident and definitely needs to be punished more harshly than he would be if it were an off the field one. Getting 6 games for something that could be considered assault in other instances is the NFL saying "make sure you keep your temper in check and dont do it again.". Garbage suggestion.
Tony Perkis
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If you want to provide me individual examples that are exceptions to the rule, that’s fine, but I’m giving you what is, or what should be, the rules established by the league.
An emotional trigger shouldn’t justify the single largest suspension in NFL history for a first time offense, when an objectively worse offense is capped at 8 games for the first punishment. That’s just a logical conclusion, in my eyes.
Now, my personal opinion, suspend him for the rest of the season, obviously without pay, and additionally suspend Mason Rudolph for also trying to rip Garret’s helmet off, kicking, and punching him in the nuts.
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Strange that in hockey, it's a free for all when 2 players start bashing each other's head in on center ice with clenched fists while the refs stand there and watch before breaking it up and the crowd is cheering.
Dead2009
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Strange that in hockey, it's a free for all when 2 players start bashing each other's head in on center ice with clenched fists while the refs stand there and watch before breaking it up and the crowd is cheering.
The other players also don't get involved when that happens and after the fight, both players are sent to the penalty box. Also if a player uses their hockey stick in a violent manner, they can get suspended for 30+ plus games.
Tony Perkis
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Then you’re making conflicting points here. You’re calling for a ban from the sport for using a helmet as a weapon, but cool with a 1/3 season suspension for using a stick as a weapon.
Queen of the WDW Scene
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Dead2009
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He shouldn't be apologizing to the Patriots....he should be apologizing to the freaking Raiders for the media circus he put them through.
www.espn.com
AB posts apology to Patriots' Kraft for 'drama'
Antonio Brown, who met with the NFL last week to address sexual assault allegations against him, has apologized to Robert Kraft after calling out the Patriots owner for what Brown called "bad media" and "drama."
Tony Perkis
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Report: Myles Garrett said Mason Rudolph used racial slur before brawl
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-myl...-used-racial-slur-before-brawl-183523150.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-myl...-used-racial-slur-before-brawl-183523150.html
Tony Perkis
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It’s another piece in the puzzle. It doesn’t excuse Garret in the slightest, but it does potentially provide context.
And Rudolph still 100% should have been suspended as well, as he was the primary instigator in this ordeal, and if the NFL is somehow able to validate this claim with audio archived at NFL Films, it actually explains the incident entirely (note that I didn‘t say absolves any party; actions were still taken and need to be properly).
Dead2009
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It's just odd that he brought it up during the appeal and not ANY time before. He tried justifying swinging a helmet and it backfired.
www.espn.com
NFL: No evidence of Rudolph using racial slur
The NFL "found no such evidence" that Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph directed a racial slur at Cleveland Browns defensive end Myles Garrett just prior to last week's brawl, league spokesman Brian McCarthy said Thursday.
Tony Perkis
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This is a short-sided viewpoint that misses the point.It's just odd that he brought it up during the appeal and not ANY time before. He tried justifying swinging a helmet and it backfired.
NFL: No evidence of Rudolph using racial slur
The NFL "found no such evidence" that Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph directed a racial slur at Cleveland Browns defensive end Myles Garrett just prior to last week's brawl, league spokesman Brian McCarthy said Thursday.
He didn’t bring it up for obvious reasons.
First, he went through the proper channels to bring this up. The appeals process was 100% the correct way to disclose this, not through the court of public opinion.
Second, it was an absolute certainty that he would be suspended, at least through the rest of the season. Bringing it up prior to the appeal means he would have lost his one point of leverage.
Third, he didn’t actual make this declaration to the public. It was leaked and reported by sports media.
Fourth, Mason Rudolph was still the instigator and should be suspended.
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Anders Limpar
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The guy is a top shelf dope.
Tony Perkis
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The Patriots are just playing this stupid injury designation game they always play in the second half of the year.
Brady’s fine.