NFL 2013 Discussion Thread

PUSH

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Unfortunately, this type of extortion is the way of the world in the NFL (or pretty much any pro sports franchise) these days. You have to live with a background fear that at any time, your favorite team will up and leave. Maybe even in the middle of the night...
I don't think the Packers will be leaving Green Bay anytime soon, so I'm good.
 

rael ramone

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Rod Marinelli will take over as Cowboys DC, but Monte Kiffin will remain on the Cowboys' staff as an assistant coach. The Cowboys also announced that Scott Linehan will be the play-caller and "passing-game coordinator" next season.

In other "news", Tim Tebow will host Good Morning America this week.

For those who think Tebow was a mistake for Denver:

His 'heroics' got a Denver team that was looking like a doormat into the playoffs, though as an 8-8 team.

If that team stayed with Kyle Orton and finished 5-11, does Peyton even grant them a visit?

As far as the game this weekend, Seattle needs 2 things to happen to win:

1. A referee crew that allows Seattle to play the recievers tough.
2. A pick-six. Even if they can hold Denver to a low score (for Denver) Seattles offense - by itself- won't score enough. They need points from a unit other than the offense.
 

PUSH

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I feel like Russell Wilson won't rise to the occasion and lead his team to the victory. He's good, but he's still young, and he has had several mistakes over the latter part of the year. I think the Broncos defense did an outstanding job against the Patriots, and if they can have a similar type of production against the Seahawks, I think the Broncos can score enough points to win, even against the Seahawks defense.

The only way I can imagine the Seahawks winning, is if they dominate the Time of Possession. Pound the ball with Marshawn Lynch. If the Broncos can stop Lynch, that forces Wilson to make plays with his arm, and we all know young QBs are prone to make mistakes. So for me, time of possession is huge in this game. That and turnovers. If you win those two, you should win the game.
 

afar28

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Looks like everything will go smoothly with the super bowl weather-wise. Expected to be a high of 48 and lows of 30 which is a total heat wave compared to the current 10 degree days. Plus only 10-15 degree winds which isnt that bad.
Also Super Bowl Boulevard in Manhattan has been a success. Im gonna try to go tomorrow to see for myself. I doubt another super bowl will be played here again anytime soon, but if this one goes well their is a chance.
 

acishere

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I also just remembered that Homer Simpson owns the Broncos. You would think he would be happier about that score.
 

acishere

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Looks like everything will go smoothly with the super bowl weather-wise. Expected to be a high of 48 and lows of 30 which is a total heat wave compared to the current 10 degree days. Plus only 10-15 degree winds which isnt that bad.
Also Super Bowl Boulevard in Manhattan has been a success. Im gonna try to go tomorrow to see for myself. I doubt another super bowl will be played here again anytime soon, but if this one goes well their is a chance.
My coworker called it a state fair with more advertising, but he is just bitter about it being crowded by Port Authority. I'm thinking of going after work in a bit. Depends on how soon I need to get back home for a friend's birthday party.
 

PUSH

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Looks like everything will go smoothly with the super bowl weather-wise. Expected to be a high of 48 and lows of 30 which is a total heat wave compared to the current 10 degree days. Plus only 10-15 degree winds which isnt that bad.
Also Super Bowl Boulevard in Manhattan has been a success. Im gonna try to go tomorrow to see for myself. I doubt another super bowl will be played here again anytime soon, but if this one goes well their is a chance.
What I don't understand is this: Super Bowls have been played in cold-weather cities before, but it's never been a big media story like this one is. I understand that NYC is bigger than Indianapolis, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc, but the only real difference is it's in an opened-domed stadium. And game are played in terrible weather all the time, just look back to the week where we had dangerously cold temps and insane amounts of snow earlier this season.
 

afar28

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What I don't understand is this: Super Bowls have been played in cold-weather cities before, but it's never been a big media story like this one is. I understand that NYC is bigger than Indianapolis, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc, but the only real difference is it's in an opened-domed stadium. And game are played in terrible weather all the time, just look back to the week where we had dangerously cold temps and insane amounts of snow earlier this season.
The open airness has a lot to do with it, plus the weather in early February in NY is usually not the best. Imagine a blizzard delaying the super bowl. That would be a huge story
 

PUSH

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The open airness has a lot to do with it, plus the weather in early February in NY is usually not the best. Imagine a blizzard delaying the super bowl. That would be a huge story
I remember back in the Packers-Steelers Super Bowl in Dallas, it was below freezing and they had an ice storm. the joke was that the Packers brought their weather with them.
 

jw24

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As far as the game this weekend, Seattle needs 2 things to happen to win:

1. A referee crew that allows Seattle to play the recievers tough.
2. A pick-six. Even if they can hold Denver to a low score (for Denver) Seattles offense - by itself- won't score enough. They need points from a unit other than the offense.

I think I read somewhere that the Super Bowl team that scored on a pick six never lost the game. (11-0!) So it's good omen for Seattle if they can score that way.

What I don't understand is this: Super Bowls have been played in cold-weather cities before, but it's never been a big media story like this one is. I understand that NYC is bigger than Indianapolis, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc, but the only real difference is it's in an opened-domed stadium. And game are played in terrible weather all the time, just look back to the week where we had dangerously cold temps and insane amounts of snow earlier this season.

The open airness has a lot to do with it, plus the weather in early February in NY is usually not the best. Imagine a blizzard delaying the super bowl. That would be a huge story

Well, aside everything @afarese said, it's also the first Super Bowl in the Northeast US, as well and in one of the largest media markets in the country. The weather forecast and all those fears about a blizzard or snow may be an overreaction but for years, the Super Bowl has been played in warm weather or domed cities. Throw in something completely that breaks tradition, people will have concerns. Imagine if the NHL decided to make all Stanley Cup finals games outdoor ones. That would cause a firestorm for sure. Plus it's now sparking a conversation about if other cold-weather stadiums should host it like Chicago, Green Bay or even Kansas City.
 

PUSH

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Plus it's now sparking a conversation about if other cold-weather stadiums should host it like Chicago, Green Bay or even Kansas City.
It can't happen in Green Bay because of the hotels, etc. Green Bay only has just over 100,000 people. I think Chicago's stadium would be a concern. It has the lowest seat capacity in the NFL, and I doubt the NFL would like that. Kansas City I don't know enough about to judge. I think a Super Bowl in Seattle could be fun with the noise factor.
 

jw24

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It can't happen in Green Bay because of the hotels, etc. Green Bay only has just over 100,000 people. I think Chicago's stadium would be a concern. It has the lowest seat capacity in the NFL, and I doubt the NFL would like that. Kansas City I don't know enough about to judge. I think a Super Bowl in Seattle could be fun with the noise factor.

Good points. I read an article that Philly has interests in hosting a Super Bowl...if things go well in East Rutherford. SI did a polarizing article about places that in their view, should host the big game: http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/24/eight-in-the-box-future-super-bowl-host-cities-london-seattle/

I think the drawback is that other than Metlife, the stadiums in the Northeast are pretty small compared to others in the league. Plus with Fedex Field, the field surface is a big concern over there and I read somewhere that fans have to walk a mile to the stadium from the nearest Washington Metro station. It doesn't sound much but if it's snowing and all that, chaos!

The real question is who's going to host in 2018 and beyond? The new Vikings stadium, maybe? The next three following this one are in Glendale, AZ (2015), the new 49ers stadium (2016) and Houston (2017).
 

PUSH

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Good points. I read an article that Philly has interests in hosting a Super Bowl...if things go well in East Rutherford. SI did a polarizing article about places that in their view, should host the big game: http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/24/eight-in-the-box-future-super-bowl-host-cities-london-seattle/

I think the drawback is that other than Metlife, the stadiums in the Northeast are pretty small compared to others in the league. Plus with Fedex Field, the field surface is a big concern over there and I read somewhere that fans have to walk a mile to the stadium from the nearest Washington Metro station. It doesn't sound much but if it's snowing and all that, chaos!

The real question is who's going to host in 2018 and beyond? The new Vikings stadium, maybe? The next three following this one are in Glendale, AZ (2015), the new 49ers stadium (2016) and Houston (2017).
I'd think Minnesota would be on the list sometime soon after their stadium is finished. Miami won't get another one until their stadium is upgraded, and I believe that's at a halt. Same goes for San Diego.
 

flynnibus

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I think the drawback is that other than Metlife, the stadiums in the Northeast are pretty small compared to others in the league. Plus with Fedex Field, the field surface is a big concern over there and I read somewhere that fans have to walk a mile to the stadium from the nearest Washington Metro station. It doesn't sound much but if it's snowing and all that, chaos!

The stadiums in the NE are pretty typical... it's that Dallas, FedEx, and Metlife are so BIG compared to everything.

The league average is basically 69-70k for stadiums
The southern favorites that have dominated SB selections
Miami
Tampa
NewO
Atlanta
SanDiego

Most are not much higher than that average.. with Miami being the big stand out at 75k

Recent fields like Detroit and Indy are significantly smaller than average.

The league wants the Super Bowl to be a destination trip for people. Given it's February... people like to head south for the winter.. not north :) I doubt we'll ever see it in a town like Buffalo, Cleveland, Baltimore, Pittsburg, or Foxborough... even if they met the convention and hotel requirements. They just aren't sexy winter destinations.

I think the idea of 'what town will people be most willing to make a blow-out bender trip to...' is far more important to the NFL than anything else :)
 

PUSH

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The stadiums in the NE are pretty typical... it's that Dallas, FedEx, and Metlife are so BIG compared to everything.
Fun fact time! Dallas is actually NOT in the top three for stadium seating capacity. The top three are actually 1) FedEx Field, 2) MetLife Stadium, and 3) Lambeadu Field! Lambeau added 8,000 new seats for this season, making it larger than Dallas. If Dallas were to bring out all of the non-permanent seats and standing room only (which isn't counted in seating capacity), Dallas would have over 100,000 seats. But we all know how that went in 2011.
 

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